Originally posted by Kid KurdyIt was nothing considering I didn't say anything that could actually be disputed...
I don't know you tell me.Manipulating by telling the truth ? Tell me where I'm wrong.
No, I mean by straying away from his point of durability/Supes not being able to do things by focusing on two words of his post.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
at first i was going to agree with you, but then i noticed superman's eyes telegraphing his heat vision blast before firing, and it was a good distraction for his punch flurry.thanos has done the same thing to surfer, but then knocking him silly instead of getting punched.
I believe the writers intention was to show that Superman can get the job done better and faster if he does it himself.
If this happened for real though then I agree with you 100%.
Originally posted by carver9all radiation moves at the speed of light, but not necessarily all blasts.
This scan isnt light speed. I could easily post a scan of someone shooting blast from each finger at Wolverine and Wolverine block all 5 of them with his claws.All blast doesnt go the speed of light, and that was a blast of radiation, so I'm pretty sure that doesnt even go CLOSE to the speed of light.
By the way, Superman heat vision isnt light speed and if it is, show me where you got that from.
Superman's hv has went from Earth to the moon within a few of seconds.
Originally posted by NihilistThis is total speculation. Thanos could have put his shields up when he wasn't in the panel, as he could have called for them to. There is no clear indication that Thanos had his shields up while firing. Undeniable proof would be the comic mentioning this or it showing Thanos firing and blocking with his shields at the same time.
Here is the scans
Thet all attack Omega(Thanos is top right of the pic)Omega blasts Thanos
Thanos says he survived due to his shields, not once does he call for them to be up.
Superman recently claimed that he can destroy planets with his punches. Superman was seen to shatter a planet with the shockwave alone when making contact with Zod. Superman has been seen punching Earth 2 Superman so hard he was altering reality and dimensions.
Now its time for you to show a few things1. A scan of Superman doing what Champion did with one punch(seeing as you say Supes will get through his shields) easy.
2. A scan of Superman speedblitzing combo that ends with a ko to someone Of Thanos lvl durability
^ Actually. You have the burden of proof reversed. You need to show that Thanos has to summon his shields and/or it takes time to do that.
Superman did not shatter a planet with a shockwave when he fought a Zod. facepalm
Originally posted by h1a8I don't really doubt that Superman's hv could reach the Earth from the moon in seconds. But since it would take within a few seconds for light to reach Earth from the Moon, we're not sure what you're trying to prove.
all radiation moves at the speed of light, but not necessarily all blasts.Superman's hv has went from Earth to the moon within a few of seconds.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I didn't claim he could or couldn't (using voice commands). I can believe he can with a simple hand raise (like he always do). The point of my post was to rebut the other poster from saying that the scan proves thanos can attack with his shields up. The scan didn't prove it.
^ Actually. You have the burden of proof reversed. You need to show that Thanos has to summon his shields and/or it takes time to do that.
Hold your head all you want but I saw the scan. Prove me wrong.
Superman did not shatter a planet with a shockwave when he fought a Zod. facepalm
I don't really doubt that Superman's hv could reach the Earth from the moon in seconds. But since it would take within a few seconds for light to reach Earth from the Moon, we're not sure what you're trying to prove.That hv moves at the speed of light of course.
Originally posted by h1a8Well, between you and me: Thanos doesn't need voice commands to activate his shields. And nothing has been shown to suggest that he has to command his shields to be lowered before attacking.
I didn't claim he could or couldn't (using voice commands). I can believe he can with a simple hand raise (like he always do). The point of my post was to rebut the other poster from saying that the scan proves thanos can attack with his shields up. The scan didn't prove it.
Originally posted by h1a8I can't even imagine which scan you're even referring to. But if you're referring to the scan between Superman and Zod in the For Tomorrow storyline by Brian Azzarello, let's just say you're utterly wrong.
Hold your head all you want but I saw the scan. Prove me wrong.That hv moves at the speed of light of course.
Ok. I agree with you that hv goes at light speeds.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I agree. Maybe he does though for his shields not on his being though (like the one he summon against Galactus).
Well, between you and me: Thanos doesn't need voice commands to activate his shields.
And nothing has been shown to suggest that he has to command his shields to be lowered before attacking.Common sense suggests it. Think about it, how can you attack when there is a shield preventing attacks from hitting you? Also if one assumes he has this ability then it is speculation.
Don't know where it was but I saw the scan of it. If I'm wrong then just prove it. I'm reasonable. I will never deny solid proof.
I can't even imagine which scan you're even referring to. But if you're referring to the scan between Superman and Zod in the For Tomorrow storyline by Brian Azzarello, let's just say you're utterly wrong.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0don't feel comfortable yet.
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i'm with you in the sensory input thing, but still having total access to all the gems simultaneously wasn't happening, imo he was using them one by one on demand (aside from the pretty much continuous usage of the power gem). not once did he explicitly use two gems in tandem to beat the heroes.
why i say this is because after the surfer blitz, he willed himself to full capacity meaning all the gems were feeding him power all at once making him able to defeat the cosmics/abstracts. with only the power gem, he wouldn't have performed close to the same as he did against the heroes, it's be like a 50% chance of getting beaten by the entities or something.
Originally posted by Badabingban him and you won't see it anymore
Sorry to interrupt, but I keep seeing this scan of Superman traveling ftl. Is there a question of his flight speed? I'm asking as another poster, not a mod.
^ Semantics. He used the other Infinity Gems other than the Power Gem while fighting the heroes. I don't particularly care whether you think he only used them one at a time as opposed to merely cutting off sensory input (even though that is literally stated).
Originally posted by h1a8No. He didn't verbally command the raising of his shields against the Galactus/Thanos clone or Galactus either. Stop projecting.
I agree. Maybe he does though for his shields not on his being though (like the one he summon against Galactus).Common sense suggests it. Think about it, how can you attack when there is a shield preventing attacks from hitting you? Also if one assumes he has this ability then it is speculation.
Don't know where it was but I saw the scan of it. If I'm wrong then just prove it. I'm reasonable. I will never deny solid proof.
Considering that he fights along with taking advantage of his shields the entire time without ever commanding his shields to be lowered, then you are the one speculating.
You're shifting the burden. Your proposition is that Superman busted a planet with collateral damage in his fight with Zod. It's up to you to prove that. Not up to us to disprove that. If you don't know what you're talking about, then don't act like, "Well gee. I thought I saw something like that. So, until then... it's true and you have to prove it's not true." That's not how it works.
'i will myself to full power" he not only reestablished sensory input from the gems (omniscience), but the power influx from all of them simultaneously to combat the cosmics mastery over their respective influences (omnipotence).
i'm arguing the simultaneous usage, sensory input is a given.
ig#4 and #ig# 5 are completely different levels of power.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Where were you debating this when people were suggesting those were all of his own powers, just magnified with the power gem?
^ When did he ever strip himself from the powers afforded to him from the other Gems?Irrelevant.
No kidding, since he was fighting Earth heroes as opposed to Abstracts.