Thanos vs Superman

Started by Kid Kurdy399 pages

Originally posted by Silent Master
Since when do handbooks count?

They don't. It's as simple as that.

But still, if even the Thanos fansite admits his reflexes are only above normal human levels, it should count for something.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
They don't. It's as simple as that.

But still, if even the Thanos fansite admits his reflexes are only above normal human levels, it should count for something.

Wait you think Thanos's reflexes are only above normal human levels?

only against superman

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Wait you think Thanos's reflexes are only above normal human levels?

Yes.

Waving your hand and blasting somebody does not mean you have these truly amazing reflexes.

He's probably faster than one might think, but he is not known for his speed, and never will be.

Especially compared against Superman, he's a joke. I don't understand why this is so difficult to admit.

Responding to SS blitz means nothing?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Yes.

Waving your hand and blasting somebody does not mean you have these truly amazing reflexes.

He's probably faster than one might think, but he is not known for his speed, and never will be.

Especially compared against Superman, he's a joke. I don't understand why this is so difficult to admit.

You know he has reacted to Surfer, Champion, and Tyrant right? Hell Tyrant was taking on multiple people and some were even known for their speed.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Responding to SS blitz means nothing?

Going real fast towards your enemy is not blitzing. That's just going fast.

Speed blitzing is trying to overwhelm your opponent using your speed and others powers as much as you can, with the emphasis on speed.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You know he has reacted to Surfer, Champion, and Tyrant right? Hell Tyrant was taking on multiple people and some were even known for their speed.

He has "reacted" ? Well, whatever.

Were Champion and Tyrant using speed against Thanos ? No, not in the least, so it's a mystery to me why you bring this up.

(BTW, picture above, that's a speed blitz).

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Going real fast towards your enemy is not blitzing. That's just going fast.

Speed blitzing is trying to overwhelm your opponent using your speed and others powers as much as you can, with the emphasis on speed.

Nice scan, thank you for an example of what is not a speed blitz. You know when Superman blitzes people he tends to only use his fists like he did against Imperiex.

As far as I know, Thanos has been speed blitzed only one, by Runner. Thanos was completely helpless, he almost didn't know what happened to him.

Don't make me post the scan.

He tricked Runner - who is a moron - but against his speed, he was powerless.

Tyrant and the above mentioned move way faster than a normal human on the regular. I don't think any superhuman who can fight above human speed, fights at human speed. That's like Thor fighting Hulk and his arms move only as fast as a normal human.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
He has "reacted" ? Well, whatever.

Were Champion and Tyrant using speed against Thanos ? No, not in the least, so it's a mystery to me why you bring this up.

(BTW, picture above, that's a speed blitz).

So when Thor throw's Mjolnir with all of his strength at Thanos who sees it coming and stops it with a gesture, that doesn't mean that he has superhuman reflexes? I guarantee you that if Thor threw his hammer at you with the intention to kill or whatever then you'd be dead before you realized he was throwing it.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Tyrant and the above mentioned move way faster than a normal human on the regular. I don't think any superhuman who can fight above human speed, fights at human speed. That's like Thor fighting Hulk and his arms move only as fast as a normal human.

It's not about what they are capable of, it's what they do in an actual fight, on panel.

Tyrant and Champion have NOT used speed when fighting Thanos.

I'm not argueing those guys can't be really fast if they (or the writer) want to be, but until now, I haven't seen them using their speed against Thanos.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
It's not about what they are capable of, it's what they do in an actual fight, on panel.

Tyrant and Champion have NOT used speed when fighting Thanos.

I'm not argueing those guys can't be really fast if they (or the writer) want to be, but until now, I haven't seen them using their speed against Thanos.

You need blurry lines to depict speed for you? If Tyrant was fighting at normal human speed then why wouldn't he step his game up and move faster once he started losing that fight?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
So when Thor throw's Mjolnir with all of his strength at Thanos who sees it coming and stops it with a gesture, that doesn't mean that he has superhuman reflexes? I guarantee you that if Thor threw his hammer at you with the intention to kill or whatever then you'd be dead before you realized he was throwing it.

Lots of people have dodged or avoided Mjolnir, it's not like Mjolnir travels at the speed of light.

And are you talking about when Thanos was wearing the IG ? If so, it doesn't count for reasons already mentioned.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You need blurry lines to depict speed for you? If Tyrant was fighting at normal human speed then why wouldn't he step his game up and move faster once he started losing that fight?

You are avoiding the question.

Show me where they used their speed against Thanos, you can't. You make it seem Tyrant and Champion possess Flash like reflexes and fighting abilities...

You say: Well Tyrant is powerful, so of course he must be real fast, no question about it, and because he must be real fast, he must have used his speed against Thanos, and because that didn't work, Thanos must also be really fast...

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Going real fast towards your enemy is not blitzing. That's just going fast.

Speed blitzing is trying to overwhelm your opponent using your speed and others powers as much as you can, with the emphasis on speed.


They attempted to do so, but were stopped from the very outset because he easily reacted and prevented the blitz. See the Fallen One fight.

Superman

Originally posted by King Kandy
They attempted to do so, but were stopped from the very outset because he easily reacted and prevented the blitz. See the Fallen One fight.

I don't know if they attempted to do so, that's what you assume, I'm not so sure however.

But it doesn't matter, because they did not speed blitz him.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
No they aren't.

Thanos' reflexes and speed are above normal human levels. While not able to compete in this area at the level of speedier, more agile heroes like Spider-Man, Thanos is far faster than a being of his size ( 6'7" in height, 985 lbs of mass. ) should have a right to be.

The looseleaf edition of the HBOTMU states that both his speed and agility are at the "enhanced human" level.

http://www.corvusonline.net/thanos/powers.html

Not even the Thanos database is on your side. Compared to Superman, Thanos could be standing still.

Superman has enough raw power to break his shields. And besides, what's Thanos gonna do all fight long, hide behind his shields ?

I put two feats up which proved my case. You running around looking up other third party opinions as your proof when I have comic book examples is truly desperation.

All Thanos needs is a few blows. Thanos' shield taxed Galactus before so if he wants he can basically take a nap while Supes pounds away at it.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
They don't. It's as simple as that.

But still, if even the Thanos fansite admits his reflexes are only above normal human levels, it should count for something.

So you just admitted you used something that doesn't count. I guess if another Thanos fan says something it counts, right? Wow.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Yes.

Waving your hand and blasting somebody does not mean you have these truly amazing reflexes.

He's probably faster than one might think, but he is not known for his speed, and never will be.

Especially compared against Superman, he's a joke. I don't understand why this is so difficult to admit.

The Surfer and Fallen One are perfect examples of him reacting in time and negating someone's superior speed. You choose to accept them because you really want Thanos to lose despite the fact the majority agrees he stomps superman across the internet.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
As far as I know, Thanos has been speed blitzed only one, by Runner. Thanos was completely helpless, he almost didn't know what happened to him.

Don't make me post the scan.

He tricked Runner - who is a moron - but against his speed, he was powerless.

Thanos had a plan implemented already to defeat the Runner. We have seen Thanos rely on his abilities outside this arc when dealing with sheer speed.