Thanos vs Superman

Started by darthgoober399 pages

Originally posted by Juntai
He had turned off sensory input from the gems. It was the only mentioning of a power down in the story.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
He only cut off all sensory inputs, meaning he could be surprised. Apart from that, he had full control over the IG.

That's it. It's stated very clearly in the comics.


Except the part where he says he's returning himself to full power you mean. Regardless, my point is that if he could see Surfer then it means that unless Supes is moving faster he's not going to be moving too fast for Thanos to follow.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And I won't use most, but this is a case specific scenereo that applies IMO. I know that there's people who disagree with me about it being proof of Thanos's reactions, just as I know that there are people who don't take panel counting as proof of Supes's speed when flying through space, in the end it's all a matter of how you choose to view the story.
I disagree, he was wielding an item that made him godlike in power jumping his stats and abilities far beyond normal capacity.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Except the part where he says he's returning himself to full power you mean. Regardless, my point is that if he could see Surfer then it means that unless Supes is moving faster he's not going to be moving too fast for Thanos to follow.
Right. He returned sensory input from the gems, the only written powering down of his power that exists in the story. Thus, he could no longer be surprised.

Originally posted by Juntai
I disagree, he was wielding an item that made him godlike in power jumping his stats and abilities far beyond normal capacity.

Far beyond normal capacity huh? Is that why he was getting knocked around by Masterson despite his whuppin on the real Thor before his ressurection upgrade?

Originally posted by Starscream M
I think all of those instances are pretty vague and speculative

none of them would clearly require near FTL speed from what I can gather

Speculative, lmfao

Originally posted by Juntai
Right. He returned sensory input from the gems, the only written powering down of his power that exists in the story. Thus, he could no longer be surprised.

Which means that the IG lended no help to his percieving Surfer at 32,000,000x lightspeed.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Far beyond normal capacity huh? Is that why he was getting knocked around by Masterson despite his whuppin on the real Thor before his ressurection upgrade?
Are you suggesting Thanos is as powerful without the Infinity Gauntlet, as with it?
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Originally posted by darthgoober
Which means that the IG lended no help to his percieving Surfer at 32,000,000x lightspeed.
Says nothing of his ability to react to it without them.
And even then I'm not suggesting that he can't, just any showings with someone wielding the infinity gauntlet can't be mistaken as what would happen without it.

Originally posted by h1a8
[B]If I lack common sense then explain to me why should I assume something that hardly ever happens in comics (if at all). When someone usually erects a shield they can't attack.
Hardly happens you say, like for instance Superman blitzing with a combo ending with a ko

This isn't need as long as the two requirements are met.

1. Superman is strong enough to jarr/stun Thanos with hits
2. Superman is fast enough to hit Thanos again before the stun effect wears off.
Not realy gonna stun him enough for Thanos to be imoblized

Since both are met then Superman combos Thanos to ko provided he gets a hit in, which he will.
Since you are only speculating, you will have to give instances to back up you argument.

Either Superman doing what you say to a Thanos lvl durability guy and Thanos being stunned by punching to that degree.

Originally posted by Juntai
Are you suggesting Thanos is as powerful without the Infinity Gauntlet, as with it?
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No, I'm suggesting that all his his abilities weren't amped to "Far beyond normal capacity" throughout the fight. So an amp to his reflexes wouldn't automatically be on when he was facing off with Cap.

Originally posted by Juntai
Says nothing of his ability to react to it without them.
And even then I'm not suggesting that he can't, just any showings with someone wielding the infinity gauntlet can't be mistaken as what would happen without it.

Because it makes absolute sense for someone who can see something moving at 32,000,000 times lightspeed to be completely unable to react to anything moving at near that speed?

Not ANY showings, just those that don't apply.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Champion was doing just fine against Thanos' shields. Allow me to quote Thanos himself:

- After Champions second punch: I already feel them to buckle.

- After Champions fourth punch: The force field is crumbling.

You see ? No problem for Superman.

Champion punched the planet hard enough causing it to destroy, when did Superman do that.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No, I'm suggesting that all his his abilities weren't amped to "Far beyond normal capacity" throughout the fight. So an amp to his reflexes wouldn't automatically be on when he was facing off with Cap.

Because it makes absolute sense for someone who can see something moving at 32,000,000 times lightspeed to be completely unable to react to anything moving at near that speed?

Not ANY showings, just those that don't apply.

Point was that he was purposely giving them a chance. That much is written into the story.

He was showing them how futile their efforts were.

That's why they were landing hits and such.

He still had all the gems amping him.

Given evidence of the story itself, the burden of proof would lie on you to prove he -wasn't- amped and it played no part, given that we know he most assuredly was. As the only feature of the gems he turned off- was sensory imput.

Some people can't seem to accept that someone in the same level as Superman was able to BLITZ Thanos and made him look like a pathetic fool.

let me post the scans again just to annoy these Thanos apologists.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Champion punched the planet hard enough causing it to destroy, when did Superman do that.
iirc, Superman punched Darkseid so hard the planetoid they were standing on exploded from the residual force in Apokalips now, without actually hitting the ground at all.

Originally posted by Juntai
Point was that he was purposely giving them a chance. That much is written into the story.

He was showing them how futile their efforts were.

That's why they were landing hits and such.

He still had all the gems amping him.

Given evidence of the story itself, the burden of proof would lie on you to prove he -wasn't- amped and it played no part, given that we know he most assuredly was.


Then were did you get your assement that all his abilities were amped to far beyond their normal capacity if it wasn't what was written into story? Seems like you're trying to have it both ways here...

So it's up to me to prove a negative huh?

Originally posted by Juntai
iirc, Superman punched Darkseid so hard the planetoid they were standing on exploded from the residual force in Apokalips now, without actually hitting the ground at all.
Do you have scans?

And as you are the only one so far who will give answers on stuff, off the top of your head how many times has Superman blitzed someone with a combo that ends in a ko to anyone with the same lvl of durability to Thanos.

Seriously, this "combo to ko" shit is getting really old. Especially when I very rarely see any evidence of it being used as readily as some claim.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Then were did you get your assement that all his abilities were amped to far beyond their normal capacityif it wasn't what was written into story? Seems like you're trying to have it both ways here...

So it's up to me to prove a negative huh?


Where do you get that from?

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Are you once again suggesting that Thanos wielding the might of the infinity gauntlet is just as powerful without it?

We know the infinity gauntlet amps him, and we know the only limit he put on himself was sensory imput. He still otherwise had the full power of the gems and all they lend him.
He was most asuredly amped in the story's context.
If you want to suggest he wasn't- you have to prove that. It's not a negative.

Originally posted by Juntai
Where do you get that from?

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Are you once again suggesting that Thanos wielding the might of the infinity gauntlet is just as powerful without it?


Where do I get what from?

No again I'm saying that there's no evidence that he kept his attributes amped to "far beyond their normal capacity" the entire time.

Originally posted by Juntai
We know the infinity gauntlet amps him, and we know the only limit he put on himself was sensory imput. He still otherwise had the full power of the gems and all they lend him.
He was most asuredly amped in the story's context.
If you want to suggest he wasn't- you have to prove that. It's not a negative.

His statement about sensory input DOES prove that his ability to percieve characters moving at high speeds wasn't amped.