People are using Thanos moving his hand a few inches as a testament of his FTL reflexes.😬
A human could dodge a sniper bullet inadvertently by moving a few inches one way or the other, (especially if the bullet is travelling from a 100 m or more) doesn't mean they even have 0.5 mach 1 reflexes.
The only thing impressive about the feat is that Thanos has some extra sensory abilities but so does his opponent, to a much greater extent.
Originally posted by darthgoober
So you're saying that Thanos kept all of his abilities amped throughout the fight? Do you have any actual proof of that, because the fact that he was getting knocked around by damn near everyone during that encounter and then went on to tank attacks from the Cosmic Beings later certainly seems to suggest that he didn't.Because Surfer was moving at far FTL speeds and Thanos saw/reacted to him. Pretty basic...
So the fact that he was getting tagged throughout the fight by various, slower character, and yet, by what you're saying, is later fast enough to apparently react to something moving at far faster than lightspeed, contrary to not only the isssue, but Thanos' entire history, doesn't lend credibility to the fact that him wearing the IG had something to do with that, but even moreso, I have to prove it ? Furthermore, in the page just before Surfer starts racing twoards him, he physically one-shots Captain America's shield. That certainly doesn't denote an amp.
Reacted in what way ? Like I said, I just wanna make sure we're on the same page. 🙂
I'm off now, so we'll continue this tomorrow.
Originally posted by Allankles
People are using Thanos moving his hand a few inches as a testament of his FTL reflexes.😬A human could dodge a sniper bullet inadvertently by moving a few inches one way or the other, (especially if the bullet is travelling from a 100 m or more) doesn't mean they even have 0.5 mach 1 reflexes.
The only thing impressive about the feat is that Thanos has some extra sensory abilities but so does his opponent, to a much greater extent.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Sure, him reacting to Surfer in other instances, him reacting to the Fallen One, him raising a forcefield to block Thor's hammer after it was thrown, him grabbing Mar-Vell out of the air, and at least one multiple hand image blasting feat from before his death/ressurection.
Originally posted by darthgooberI think all of those instances are pretty vague and speculative
Sure, him reacting to Surfer in other instances, him reacting to the Fallen One, him raising a forcefield to block Thor's hammer after it was thrown, him grabbing Mar-Vell out of the air, and at least one multiple hand image blasting feat from before his death/ressurection.
none of them would clearly require near FTL speed from what I can gather
Originally posted by Allankles
People are using Thanos moving his hand a few inches as a testament of his FTL reflexes.😬A human could dodge a sniper bullet inadvertently by moving a few inches one way or the other, (especially if the bullet is travelling from a 100 m or more) doesn't mean they even have 0.5 mach 1 reflexes.
The only thing impressive about the feat is that Thanos has some extra sensory abilities but so does his opponent, to a much greater extent.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
do they see the bullet and respond by ducking, then look back over their shoulder to see what passed over them?
Originally posted by Philosophíasurfer was the only threat to him
So the fact that he was getting tagged throughout the fight by various, slower character, and yet, by what you're saying, is later fast enough to apparently react to something moving at far faster than lightspeed, contrary to not only the isssue, but Thanos' entire history, doesn't lend credibility to the fact that him wearing the IG had something to do with that, but even moreso, I have to prove it ? Furthermore, in the page just before Surfer starts racing twoards him, he physically one-shots Captain America's shield. That certainly doesn't denote an amp.Reacted in what way ? Like I said, I just wanna make sure we're on the same page. 🙂
I'm off now, so we'll continue this tomorrow.
Originally posted by darthgoober
You're downplaying the feat. How far away would a human have to be to move his hand an inch away from a bullet moving at over 32,000,000x lightspeed?
I'm not comparing Thanos' speed to a human, but in the world of superhumans it's equivalent to a person avoiding a sniper's bullet with a few inches of movement one way. Avoiding that bullet would not require you to have anywhere close to the same speed as the bullet.
It takes a lot less time to move his hand a few inches away from Surfer'S grasp than it takes for Surfer to travel into position to grab the IG as is clearly indicated in the comic.
Originally posted by Philosophía
So the fact that he was getting tagged throughout the fight by various, slower character, and yet, by what you're saying, is later fast enough to apparently react to something moving at far faster than lightspeed, contrary to not only the isssue, but Thanos' entire history, doesn't lend credibility to the fact that him wearing the IG had something to do with that, but even moreso, I have to prove it ? Furthermore, in the page just before Surfer starts racing twoards him, he physically one-shots Captain America's shield. That certainly doesn't denote an amp.Reacted in what way ? Like I said, I just wanna make sure we're on the same page. 🙂
I'm off now, so we'll continue this tomorrow.
He doesn't one shot the shield, it takes a full on shot to shatter it then a backhand to actually break it. And I don't doubt that he amped various attributes at various points throughout the fight so it's very likely that an amped shot is what broke Cap's shield, but that doesn't mean that he faced off against a solo Captain America with his reflexe's amped.
Moved his hand/ducked.
Originally posted by Starscream M
I think all of those instances are pretty vague and speculativenone of them would clearly require near FTL speed from what I can gather
Originally posted by Allankles
I'm not comparing Thanos' speed to a human, but in the world of superhumans it's equivalent to a person avoiding a sniper's bullet with a few inches of movement one way. Avoiding that bullet would not require you to have anywhere close to the same speed as the bullet.It takes a lot less time to move his hand a few inches away from Surfer'S grasp than it takes for Surfer to travel into position to grab the IG as is clearly indicated in the comic.
Originally posted by darthgoobergranted, a lot are.
MOST speed feats are vague and speculative, regardless of the character they belong to. To my knowledge the closest thing to a quantified blitz Supes has is an instance where he was setting off sonic booms...
but most characters to claim the speed mantle usually also have a few indisputable feats of speed that everyone would agree is clear indication of speed that a character without SUPERspeed wouldn't pull off (ie Flash, Superman, Wonder Woman, Quicksilver...all have such feats)
Originally posted by darthgoober
MOST speed feats are vague and speculative, regardless of the character they belong to. To my knowledge the closest thing to a quantified blitz Supes has is an instance where he was setting off sonic booms...
Actually you don't need specific stuff like sonic booms, after images, invisibility etc are better arstistic representations.
How many times do artist remember to include sonic booms? In Superman's case a handful of times out of tens of incidents.
Originally posted by Starscream M
granted, a lot are.but most characters to claim the speed mantle usually also have a few indisputable feats of speed that everyone would agree is clear indication of speed that a character without SUPERspeed wouldn't pull off (ie Flash, Superman, Wonder Woman, Quicksilver...all have such feats)
Originally posted by NihilistIf I lack common sense then explain to me why should I assume something that hardly ever happens in comics (if at all). When someone usually erects a shield they can't attack.
LMFAO, for someone who claims to be so intelligent, you have no common sense.
This isn't need as long as the two requirements are met.
I want scans for proof show Superman blitzing combo ending with a ko to someone with Thanos lvl durability, because all you are doing is trolling now.
1. Superman is strong enough to jarr/stun Thanos with hits
2. Superman is fast enough to hit Thanos again before the stun effect wears off.
Since both are met then Superman combos Thanos to ko provided he gets a hit in, which he will.