Thanos vs Superman

Started by Juntai399 pages

Originally posted by the Darkone

Thanos will take Superman lifeforce which he has the ability to do, Thanos can amp his strength to far exceed Superman's

Proof?

or he can encase Superman in pure force like he did WM Thor w/power gem.
With the tech he used that he doesn't have in this fight?

Thanos is to versatile and too powerful for Superman, Thanos can mind rape superman if so chooses.
Originally posted by Juntai
For those times that someone says a character is going to mindrape Superman... Here's a few examples..

1) Brainiac 13: B 13 threw the fear of Earth's entire population into Superman's head -- Superman broke free of the attack within a panel or so. (Superman: Endgame TPB)

2) Despero: Despero had taken control of most of the JLA. He overtook bother Aquaman and J'onn Jonzz at the same time, but could not take Superman at all. (Pre-IC JLA issue)

3) Union: Union was the sum of billions of beings' mental strengths. He attacked Superman and Superman shrugged off his attack within a few panels and then beat down Union. (Superman in exile arc)

4) Neron: While in Hell, Neron attacked Superman's mind; Superman overcame it within a few panels. (Tie in to the Day of Judgment arc)

5) J'onn J'onzz: Superman throws J'onn J'onzz out of Superman's head. (Superman: King of the World). Mere contact with Superman's mind sends J'onn for a loop. (Superman: Where is Thy Sting) J'onn Jonzz states that his telepathy can not detect Superman if Superman does not wish to be detected.

6) Manchester Black: Black, a telepath so strong that not even J'onn could overcome the protection Black placed around Lex Luthor, had Superman believe that Lois was dead and that Superman had killed Black. Superman saw through the ruse and overcame Black's telepathic illusions. (Ending Battle)

7) The Fatal Five: Superman is attacked by the telepath of the Fatal Five. He resists her attack, pushing it back on her and taking her out.

8) Eclipso: Superman allows Eclipso into his head and then forces Eclipso out, just to see if he is strong enough mentally to do so. He then explains that, over the years, he has built up "a resistance to telepathy."

Originally posted by h1a8
Yet fallen one only achieved 100mph (he didn't have time to accelerate more). The initial movement (first 2 ft) was super slow (possibly 20mph). Superman is astronomically faster in the first instant. Thanos possibly couldn't even blink.

What is sad is that people are using 1 or 2 feats for Thanos to prove that he is fast enough when his entire history says otherwise. It is known throughout Superman's entire career that he has insane superspeed. Hell, his first appearances (the weakest version) stated and showed that he was even faster than a speeding bullet.

wtf are you talking about? Seriously? Not only is this the same takeoff that Fallen One used throughout the time he was shown. But it's also the same takeoff that allowed him to appear in places in split seconds.
Also, I find it funny that Fallen One isn't fast enough to go faster than 20mph in this short span, but Superman is...

Talk about trolling

Ya, because they're using the times that super speed was shown... 😐

Thanos

Originally posted by Juntai
Proof?

With the tech he used that he doesn't have in this fight?

i'm not cosigning any mindrape being done to superman, that has never occurred to me as a viable tactic.

but

superman's will is usually the reason why those instances don't work, thing is if he's ko'd or a bit dazed even, the likelihood of any mind tampering working is much greater.

the defeat of the fallen one could be applied to that theory.

Originally posted by Blanket
wtf are you talking about? Seriously? Not only is this the same takeoff that Fallen One used throughout the time he was shown. But it's also the same takeoff that allowed him to appear in places in split seconds.
Also, I find it funny that Fallen One isn't fast enough to go faster than 20mph in this short span, but Superman is...

Talk about trolling

Ya, because they're using the times that super speed was shown... 😐

Prove that Fallen One can cover the first 3 or so meters in less than .01 seconds (the speed of sound) and then you will have a point. I can prove that Superman can. This fallen one garbage is nothing but speculation.

you're speculating that he is far slower than 90% of characters with flight powers, even though he's a herald of galactus which the standard of all of them is the ability to you know,,,get their boss food really fast.

all of them can achieve light speeds with ease, you have to PROVE he can't.

Originally posted by h1a8
Prove that Fallen One can cover the first 3 or so meters in less than .01 seconds (the speed of sound) and then you will have a point. I can prove that Superman can. This fallen one garbage is nothing but speculation.
Fallen One's travel distance is mostly eaten up by the first 10 feet in which he can only go 100mph. That's reasonable. Then, after those 10 feet, he can go to places in split seconds (actually, everything was a split second) that traveling hyperspace would eat up too much time, or that teleportation would travel far short of.
That is far more reasonable. Fallen One's travel speed goes from 20 mph in 2 feet, to 100 mph in 10 feet, to exceeding lightspeed in 11 feet.

You can't prove this for Superman though. What, are you going to show HV not working, and then a being being surprised by physical bullrushing?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you're speculating that he is far slower than 90% of characters with flight powers, even though he's a herald of galactus which the standard of all of them is the ability to you know,,,get their boss food really fast.

all of them can achieve light speeds with ease, you have to PROVE he can't.

I know he can achieve light speed and beyond, so can Thor or any other being that can accelerate through space. This is no question. But has he proven to within the first 3 meters? No he hasn't. He hasn't even proven to reach the speed of sound within the first 3 meters? Superman has.

Thus there is speculation for Fallen One and not for Superman.

Prove Superman can reach the speed of sound in 3 meters.

Originally posted by Blanket
Prove Superman can reach the speed of sound in 3 meters.

This is easy. I don't have the scans though.

Superman from less than 10ft away jump in front of bullets to save people and bullets move at least the speed of sound.

Superman has vibrated through attacks probably only moving a micrometer or less. And vibrating through attacks takes faster than light speeds.

Superman travels miles away AFTER hearing a gun shot that was fired less than 3 meters away from Lois. If Superman didn't reach the speed of sound within the first 3 meters the bullet would have hit Lois. Think about it!

Of course there are many more. Superman has more than 24 years of history.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is easy. I don't have the scans though.

Superman from less than 10ft away jump in front of bullets to save people and bullets move at least the speed of sound.

Superman has vibrated through attacks probably only moving a micrometer or less. And vibrating through attacks takes faster than light speeds.

Superman travels miles away AFTER hearing a gun shot that was fired less than 3 meters away from Lois. If Superman didn't reach the speed of sound within the first 3 meters the bullet would have hit Lois. Think about it!

Of course there are many more. Superman has more than 24 years of history.

Time to go h1 on you.

More like he was a foot away, and the size of his body blocked the bullets.

Ya, vibrating. Now show him moving three meters.

h1 logic aside, but isn't the third example the EXACT same thing I said to you about Fallen One, but with less distance between them? 😐
What I said to you multiple times at that.

Originally posted by Blanket
Time to go h1 on you.

More like he was a foot away, and the size of his body blocked the bullets.

Ya, vibrating. Now show him moving three meters.

Superman had to catch up to the bullets AFTER they were fired. That means he had to exceed their speed before they hit their target.

You got me on the vibrating one. I'll just say Superman vibrating proves that he can exceed the speed of sound in less than .01 seconds (this is equivalent to reaching the speed of sound within the first 3 meters.)

h1 logic aside, but isn't the third example the EXACT same thing I said to you about Fallen One, but with less distance between them? 😐
What I said to you multiple times at that.

I don't quite understand what you are saying here.

With that said, logic aside, fallen one looked to move slower than what Superman has shown within short distances. I'm not convinced by seeing that feat that Thanos could do the same to Superman.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is easy. I don't have the scans though.

I do...here...mack 1 like it was nothing. If they still bug ya I'll post the scans of superman escaping a Black Hole.

😉

Stretching pages for unneeded scans. 👆

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman had to catch up to the bullets AFTER they were fired. That means he had to exceed their speed before they hit their target.

You got me on the vibrating one. I'll just say Superman vibrating proves that he can exceed the speed of sound in less than .01 seconds (this is equivalent to reaching the speed of sound within the first 3 meters.)

I don't quite understand what you are saying here.

With that said, logic aside, fallen one looked to move slower than what Superman has shown within short distances. I'm not convinced by seeing that feat that Thanos could do the same to Superman.

His body was too big, bullets couldn't hit target.

lol. Does this mean only h1 logic can defeat h1 logic?

That Fallen One went from Galactus' ship to Thanos' (again, teleporting would fall far short) in a split second. Ran straight through Galactus' ship and straight through Thanos'.
You turn around to use pretty much the same example from Superman in a downgraded form and use it to say Superman accelerates faster than Fallen One. It's ridiculous.

When Fallen One was shown to take off, he was never in the same spot in the same panel he was shown to take off in... he was far ahead... even in the Thanos fight this was shown, and this is when the artist had 10 feet to work with there... I don't see how you can guage close distances, and then say Superman is faster, when Fallen's One's close distances consist of take off/shield with no in between shown. Purely selective bias, nothing more.

Becareful what you ask for next time.

It was a rhetoric because I know H1 won't provide scans/proof.

Superman blitzing villains who are as strong (AND SLOW) as Thanos.

Superman blitzes Doomsday

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1971/supermanfast3ar.jpg

Superman blitzing Mongul

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/4214/superman20speed20vs20mongul202.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3513/588184fncrcv7largecz3.jpg

blitzing Equus

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/4530/08222005115613am7bx.jpg

blitzing Imperiex Probes

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9451/588184fncrcv7largetm4.jpg

blitz

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2808/351yc.jpg

blitz

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5079/speedblitzor1.jpg

please use either shrunken scans, thumbnails or text links in future.

-Pr-

Scan blitz

Lol. Imperiex probes/DD/Mongul are now = to Thanos?
Thanos has taken full on blasts from Surfer without a scratch.

Keep posting so the next page looks normal, and we don't have to see the scans Shoko has repeatidly posted in huge form throughout this thread that have already been addressed.