Originally posted by carver9
Again, show me Superman fighting on that level or stop commenting on what we are talking about.Thats like saying since thor has Super speed he can fight just like Superman when on panel proof say different.
We go by on panel proof, not what fans think about the character.
Dude are you serious? DBZ anime? If you know about Superman you'd know his speed feat against the Elite destroys anything from the DBZ anime.
Originally posted by Simbon
The logic in question is that because Superman has an EXTENSIVE list of speed-blitz feats, and Thanos does not have a history of either blitzing or resisting blitzes from someone else, it stands to reason that he will not be able to deal with Supes' FTL assault.
Originally posted by SamZEDSuperman has shown capable of doing pretty much all the tricks Flash can that don't require actual use of the speed-force. From stuff like superspeed hand and body movement that others can't keep up with, to flying at an opponent, and appearing to come at them from a dozen directions at the same exact time. Superman's combat speed knows few equals when he uses it.
i think Carver means combat speed. Just cause someone can fly ftl doesnt mean he can fight at said speed.
Originally posted by SimbonGalactus showing. We also know pre upgrade he was able to take Odin's best attacks and go the distance with him while earning Odin's respect.
Quan, while I agree with you that Thanos is often underrated in regards to Odin, we also have to acknowledge that, in spite of power-ups, his top feats (w/out prep) don't measure up to Odin's. While this may simply be a consequence of the KINDS of fights he engages in, I think we have to wait for better on-panel evidence of how much more powerful he is now.However, the whole Odin vs Thanos digression is just a red-herring here —_it would only be relevant if we had evidence that Superman is very close in power to Odin, which is about as common as evidence that jimmy olsen can take batman.
Originally posted by The Nuul
Yup. Super combo FTW! that could even beat Galactus. Galactus doesnt have any reflex speed or much good feats in H2H combat.
Galactus >>>> Thanos so you trying to be sarcastic only makes you look like an idiot.
Thanos has been shown to be vulnerable to super speed vs. Gamora and vs. Runner.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Read Thanos vs. Fallen One fight.
Fallen one hasn't proven to move faster than the speed of sound the first 3 meters of travel, Superman has. Thus assuming that Thanos can react and move to Superman because he did so to Fallen One is SPECULATION.
Note: Just because someone can block or dodge a bullet doesn't mean they can block or dodge Superman.
Originally posted by shokosugiThanos didn't fight to the best of his abilties, had a plan already set in motion to defeat the Runner, and was just sparring with Gamora.
Galactus >>>> Thanos so you trying to be sarcastic only makes you look like an idiot.Thanos has been shown to be vulnerable to super speed vs. Gamora and vs. Runner.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos didn't fight to the best of his abilties, had a plan already set in motion to defeat the Runner, and was just sparring with Gamora.
Does not change a single thing.
1) Thanos is SLOW and vulnerable to blitz (vs. Gamora and Runner)
2) Thanos CAN be hurt by physical means (even characters less powerful than superman)
3) Thanos' shield CAN be pierced by physical means (Drax did it by brute force -- can be done by anyone as strong or stronger than Drax)
these facts are indisputable and I have posted scans to prove it.
Originally posted by shokosugi1.He has abilities he didn't use against those characters he can use in this fight. gamora didn't hurt him at all and the runner was beaten by other means.
Does not change a single thing.1) Thanos is SLOW and vulnerable to blitz (vs. Gamora and Runner)
2) Thanos CAN be hurt by physical means (even characters less powerful than superman)
3) Thanos' shield CAN be pierced by physical means (Drax did it by brute force -- can be done by anyone as strong or stronger than Drax)
these facts are indisputable and I have posted scans to prove it.
2.Thanos has taken on much more powerful characters and been fine taking a lot of blows so I don't see the problem. Superman has been physically destroyed before in a few hits by Henshaw with the rings.
3.Drax is his silver bullet which makes this example irrelevant.
You don't know what context is do you?
Originally posted by shokosugi
Does not change a single thing.1) Thanos is SLOW and vulnerable to blitz (vs. Gamora and Runner)
2) Thanos CAN be hurt by physical means (even characters less powerful than superman)
3) Thanos' shield CAN be pierced by physical means (Drax did it by brute force -- can be done by anyone as strong or stronger than Drax)
these facts are indisputable and I have posted scans to prove it.
Combat speed wise, Runner>>>>>>>anyone mentioned in this thread so using him is just faulty on your side.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Using Drax as an example is kinda faulty, though. He was designed to kill Thanos; it's his responsibility, it's his destiny, his civic duty, etc.
Yes he was designed to kill Thanos, but he did not use any special powers to kill Thanos. He used physical strength nothing more.
Originally posted by h1a8Funny thing here that you can choose to ignore (again) or look at, is that this argument was already answered by me... and you ignored it. It was around when you first started to bring up the '3 meters a second? WOWZERZ' argument. Funny how you remember that, and then block the rest out of your head.
Fallen one hasn't proven to move faster than the speed of sound the first 3 meters of travel, Superman has. Thus assuming that Thanos can react and move to Superman because he did so to Fallen One is SPECULATION.Note: Just because someone can block or dodge a bullet doesn't mean they can block or dodge Superman.
Anyway, you brought up an example of Superman hearing a gunshot, and then rushing over to block it. You said with this sort of travel speed, he would have to be moving faster than the speed of sound right off the bat. Now, what I said before you even brought that up, was that Fallen One travelled a distance that hyperdrive would be too slow for, and that teleporting would fall far short, in pretty much an instant. You answered this point of mine with what I said you did, and then I responded back, and you ignored it. Looks like you ignored it again.
Anyway, let me explain the direct relevance of this feat to yours so you can't play dumb.
Superman travelling anywhere on Earth based on sound of a gunshot = speed of sound, or what you like to keep referencing as '3 meters a second', at the start of his acceleration.
Now, Fallen One travelling vast distances where again, teleportation would fall far short, and hyperdrive would be too slow (iirc), and where he doesn't even know where Thanos' ship is, and him appearing there pretty much instantly =/= 3 meters a second from the start of acceleration?
Stop fisting Supes' ass and think about that one for more than a second.