Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
So traveling speed is the same as fighting speed. Interesting. I'm learning.
I think ALL of you all are getting combat speed and flight speed mixed up because Superman has never, in his entire history of comics... even his Pre Crisis years "fought at light speed". I do agree on one thing though, Thanos combat speed isn't anywhere CLOSE to where Superman combat speed is at... its a pale comparison. IMO.
Originally posted by carver9No one said it was what people have argued is that he has the means to negate speed when he wants to.
I think ALL of you all are getting combat speed and flight speed mixed up because Superman has never, in his entire history of comics... even his Pre Crisis years "fought at light speed". I do agree on one thing though, Thanos combat speed isn't anywhere CLOSE to where Superman combat speed is at... its a pale comparison. IMO.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiYou assume the beam was shot at light speed and you assume Thanos can do that to a beam fired 5 feat away as well. Even Wolverine block Cyclops blast. Does that mean he can respond against a Superman blitz?
Really?Thanos has reacted and lifted his shields against a bullrushing "no mercy" Surfer perfectly fine. [notice the energy bolt was shot before Thanos has his shields up]
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The speed of sound is fast, for that is bullet speed. But a bullet doesn't move even .001% of the speed of light.
We all know the properties of energy blasts and what speed they travel. Without getting into a whole other debate about it being FTL or not. What we can say without a shadow of a doubt is.. blasts are fast.. and Thanos reacted after it was shot.
The same with the scan below:The scan doesn't show what happened clearly. Thanos could have just tanked the initial part of the beam before teleporting, Surfer could have missed before Thanos teleported, or Thanos just anticipated Surfer turning around and firing (after all he is always 2 steps ahead).He also dodged a point blank energy shot by Surfer via teleportation.
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Surfer didn't expect the blitz so he wasn't looking for it. And then after he casually stopped the blitz from happening. Ganymede is not as fast as superman. Not even close. Superman could appear behind Thanos before Thanos could move a micrometer. Instantaneous!
Reacted perfectly fine against Ganymede who had just successfully blitzed surfer for a while. He was clearly blizting him really fast. Yet when faced with Thanos... he reacts just fine.
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Fallen One can travel FTL after accelerating to that speed. From 3 meters away Fallen one would have been lucky just to reach bullet speed before Thanos stopped him.
Add to these... the Fallen One incident where going Trans light (STATED ON PANEL) is how he traveled. His Schtick was bullrushing into things and blowing them up. He did it to Thanos ship... a planet.. etc etc.. That is his move... He tried it on Thanos... AFTER he launches Thanos reacts fast enough to stop him dead in his tracks and proceeds to mindrape him.
Seems like slow puffy like energy to me. Batman, CA, etc. have all dodged and deflected beams before (even lasers).
The reacted to a POINT BLANK blast from The Maker with ease. Again, we know the properties of energy blasts... Thanos was point blank and deflected her blast away. You would need to have crazy fast reflexes to pull off such a move.. that is exactly what happened.
All you have shown is super human reflexes. You haven't shown reflexes against Superman level speed. Not even close.
We have TWO incidents against Thor where he threw his hammer at Thanos and it was stopped mid flight with ease. Thanos is shown with his hands at his side. Thor is shown throwing is hammer.. Thanos raises his had fast enough AFTER it was thrown to stop it mid flight. We've seen Thor throw is hammer FTL as stated on panel. Now we don't know how fast he threw it against Thanos.. but suffice to say.. it would be traveling really fast. Thanos had no issue with that fast moving attack.
I agree. But provided that the fast moving attacks start a good distance from him and that they are slower than Superman's top attack speed.
All these situations above.. show he can react to fast moving attacks and react very well.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiSpidey would be a statue to Superman if Superman wanted it to be. Spidey at best can move bullet speed. Superman at best can move... well you know already.
Do you have a reading comprehension problem or just intetionally act stupid?I didn't call them SPEED feats... I called them REACTION feats. You do understand those words aren't mutually inclusive, and in fact, can be very much mutually exclusive? I'm thinking maybe you don't understand the difference between the two. Do you even understand what the properites of energy are and how we perceive light and in turn thus how fast it is then traveling? I highly doubt you do, since you continue to show your ignorance on the matter. Spiderman speed blizting meta-human and street levelers isn't nearly the same is blitzing someone who is a peak herald of Galactus. Someone who has traveling feats that sh1t all over superman's best traveling feats. Huge huge diference. The way she blitzed surfer was very similiar to how The Runner did it and something that has rarely ever been done to surfer. Hardly what I would call spidermanesque. Since you did bring it up though.. in a comic... I 100% believe Spiderman would compete with SUperman in the speed department and be bouncing all around. The difference would be superman has speed and power and that would crazy the day. Make no mistake though, in a cqc fight.. Spiderman would be portrayed as tagging superman multiple times before he could react. Very poor example you choose. Then again, it's you.
