Originally posted by Kid KurdyThats a good argument and I wouldn't disagree with it, but it shows you can't define Thanos' strength limit as its never been shown, so to insist Superman is stronger when it can't be proved is flawed. Its like insisting Superman is stronger than Odin because Odin doesn't have strength feats. Or Tyrant, Galactus etc.
I wouldn't know. You don't know either by the way.I always considered him way above a normal Hulk (at least Class 100). But he isn't as strong as a very pissed Hulk.
The reason I say this, is because - I don't know how many times I've said this - Thanos has no real strength feats. He has amazing durability feats and such, but, compared to let's say Hulk or Superman, his strength feats aren't that impressive.
Thanos is very powerful, more powerful than the Hulk, that's for sure. But he isn't necessarily stronger.
Hulk is potentially stronger than Thanos, Superman and pretty much everyone, I've always said that, but Thanos would deal with him before he got to those levels.
Originally posted by Wally West
Thats a good argument and I wouldn't disagree with it, but it shows you can't define Thanos' strength limit as its never been shown, so to insist Superman is stronger when it can't be proved is flawed. Its like insisting Superman is stronger than Odin because Odin doesn't have strength feats. Or Tyrant, Galactus etc.
You say : well, it's not because he hasn't those feats, that he can never have them. That may be so, but until this day, he isn't stronger.
I've never seen the strength limits of let's say Firelord. Does that mean he's stronger than Hulk ? It's not because you don't know his limits, that he's automatically stronger. That's speculation at his finest.Hulk is potentially stronger than Thanos, Superman and pretty much everyone, I've always said that, but Thanos would deal with him before he got to those levels.
Maybe, maybe not. Who knows. If they actually started fighting each other, we'll know more.
In a fist fight against Hulk, there's a good chance Thanos goes down. In every other fight, Thanos owns Hulk.
Originally posted by Soleran
Probably not, Thanos also has energy manipulation abilities and mystical abilities.Thanos walked away from fighting Odin, superman is a fly.
And odin who wasn't even trying. If Odin wanted to, Thanos wouldn't have been anything but scattered atoms. Dont' give thanos Too much credit.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Wasn't trying?Is that why he pulled out Gungir? And said it was the greatest battle he'd had in eons?
He's a damn Norse God. THey live for good fights. You really think odin, who shut down Surtur coudn't have just cremed thanos? Or do you think Thanos has any kind of chance against Surtur? Please. Thanos wins this, but He wouldnt' do it as easy as some suggest. You dont' beat a man who can turn the wheels of Mageddon with ease.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He's a damn Norse God. THey live for good fights. You really think odin, who shut down Surtur coudn't have just cremed thanos? Or do you think Thanos has any kind of chance against Surtur? Please. Thanos wins this, but He wouldnt' do it as easy as some suggest. You dont' beat a man who can turn the wheels of Mageddon with ease.
If I've got a gun at someones head, I don't run away and use a missile defense system to kill someone.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He's a damn Norse God. THey live for good fights. You really think odin, who shut down Surtur coudn't have just cremed thanos? Or do you think Thanos has any kind of chance against Surtur? Please. Thanos wins this, but He wouldnt' do it as easy as some suggest. You dont' beat a man who can turn the wheels of Mageddon with ease.
Stop using that retarded logic. Seriously I've tried to be patient, but you use that same logic in every thread you debate in, it's ridiculous. It doesn't even make sense!
Odin takes on Sutur therefore anything less that Sutur posses no threat to Odin? Different battle! Different circumstances!
Going by your logic:
Muhammad Ali defeated Superman so therefore anything less that Superman means is not a threat to Muhammad Ali.
Which is clearly not the case.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Ok.
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Fair enough. Can you also say why ? Superman is stronger, at least as durable and much much faster.So maybe it's me, but it seems a bit illogical to vote for the weaker person. Or is it because Thanos "is da man" ?
So I explained why Superman would win : stronger, at least as durable and lots faster. Superman has the better cards here.
I would like to hear how exactly Thanos would beat Superman without prep or without PIS ? If Superman uses a fraction of his brain, Thanos won't even be able to touch him.
So, how will Thanos beat a stronger, a flying and a faster opponent ? Please, no lame ABC comparisons like "Dude he beat Surfer and Surfer is above Superman" or "Dude it's freaking Thanos are you insane ?"
I want acceptable reasons. I think this is not unreasonable.
Professor Hulk has the highest base strength of any of the Hulk incarnations, and "classic" Drax was God only knows how strong himself. So the fact that Thanos was able to knock BOTH of them away with a single shot(a backhand no less) is a fairly clear indication of his strength level. Thanos also has the credit of overpowering Hulk, Thing, and Hercules AT THE SAME TIME. Once again, that's a pretty good indication of how much strength he possesses.
Now as far as durability goes...
Supes is tough, there's do doubt about it. But Thanos is tougher. Even though Thanos may not have much in the way of strength showings, his showings of durability are unquestionable. Let's see, he's taken shots from Warrior Madness Thor when he had the Power Gem(and Thor was knocking around Drax before he got the gem from him), he's taken shots from Odin(Odin did way better in that fight, but was unable to actually put Thanos down), and survived being inside a black hole. And that's just his own personal durability. That's not counting the durability of his forcefields, and just his standard forcefield stood up to a shot from Galactus.
About speed...
Your right, Supes has it. But even though Thanos may not lightspeed movement capabilities, he DOES have FTL reflexes. This was best demonstrated during the Infinity Guantlet, when he reacted to Surfer who was moving WAAAY faster than just lightspeed. And the same type of thing will happen here. Supes will blast off at full speed, but Thanos will just let loose with an eye blast to stop him. Then once Supes is dazed from the blast, Thanos either puts him in a block of pure solidified force, or let's loose with a blast like the one that sent Galactus flying though the hull of his ship.
Originally posted by Evangel94
Stop using that retarded logic. Seriously I've tried to be patient, but you use that same logic in [b]every thread you debate in, it's ridiculous. It doesn't even make sense!Odin takes on Sutur therefore anything less that Sutur posses no threat to Odin? Different battle! Different circumstances!
Going by your logic:
Muhammad Ali defeated Superman so therefore anything less that Superman means is not a threat to Muhammad Ali.Which is clearly not the case. [/B]
DOnt' be a ***** to me. People use that ****ing retarded logic on this forum all the damn time. It's how they gage who can beat who. Or havne't you seen the many threads that use the Runner's defeat of Surfer as way to gage him beating Superman or the flash. You dont' need to respond to any of my post any more until you learn some manners.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DOnt' be a ***** to me. People use that ****ing retarded logic on this forum all the damn time. It's how they gage who can beat who. Or havne't you seen the many threads that use the Runner's defeat of Surfer as way to gage him beating Superman or the flash. You dont' need to respond to any of my post any more until you learn some manners.
You're not even comparing what happened in the battle. Your using the logic of "Odin beat Sutur, therefore anything less than Sutur doesn't pose a threat". You know it doesn't work like that.
Manners? You're talk to me about manners? 🙄
I can't believe this is coming from the guy you who opened a spite thread about "Wonder Woman vs Thor" because of his personal vendetta and argument to prove another poster wrong.
AND Then you opened another thread in the middle of the forum demanding why it was closed, and then sent an angry PM Digimark007 complaining, then said "you quit this forum forever".
Have a nice day,
-Evangel94 🙂
Originally posted by Evangel94
You're not even comparing what [b]happened in the battle. Your using the logic of "Odin beat Sutur, therefore anything less than Sutur doesn't pose a threat".Manners? You're talk to me about manners? 🙄
I can't believe this is coming from the guy you who opened a spite thread about "Wonder Woman vs Thor" because of his personal vendetta and argument to prove another poster wrong.
AND Then you opened another thread in the middle of the forum demanding why it was closed, and then sent an angry PM Digimark007 complaining, then said "you quit this forum forever". [/B]
And exactly what does me and Digi's situation have to do with you and me? NOT a God Damned thing. I'm talking to you. SInce I haven't been an ass to you, dont' be one to me. PERIOD. ANd it wasn't a spite thread you silly twit. Even Digi said that to me in a private message. Get lost. You must have gas or something becuz your in a foul mood.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And exactly what does me and Digi's situation have to do with you and me? NOT a God Damned thing. I'm talking to you. SInce I haven't been an ass to you, dont' be one to me. PERIOD. ANd it wasn't a spite thread you silly twit. Even Digi said that to me in a private message. Get lost. You must have gas or something becuz your in a foul mood.
We must mind our manners! Such language! And to think on the internet of all places!
But to get back on the topic at hand. Thanos doesn't have alot of strength feats but he still is around class 100. Probably stronger than base-hulk strength. He doesn't usually engage in fisticuffs unless it's test his power.