The Phoenix Force vs. Eternity

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
And there are forces above the Presence called the External Forces. 😐

The Primal Force was stated to be second only to TOAA.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Deluded fanbay

Is that some kind of internet auction site? 😉

Originally posted by Galan007
fanbay?

Is that some kind of internet auction site? 😉

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Jupp, bid on this
😄 j/k

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Jupp, bid on this
😄 j/k

The GEB refered to Yahweh as Presence when he showed Spectre true heaven.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The GEB refered to Yahweh as Presence when he showed Spectre true heaven.

"The very core of creation itself" "the heart of the phoenix"

"But the being that joined jean grey could not take its own life, for it was the Definition Of Creation. It simply could not"

I think its safe to say phoenix wins this.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Scan?

I'm unsure, because although Pheonix and Eternity have pretty good feat moments, they also fall under MAJOR PIS in many storylines.....

I like Pheonix better, so she wins 😛

I don't know...

Regular Phoenix Fluctuates, KMC Phoenix is undervalued, GS Phoenix is Hyper-Powerful, and Xplosive Phoenix is even more powerful then that.

I like when my posts garner so many thoughts. Haha. But i like the Phoenix Force. She has the power to cut and regrow any part of the universe, as well as destroy it entirely, which is part of the Phoenix's purpose.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Again, what feat has Eternity done to match the Phoenix Force, maby being healed by PF or held in her hand?

If healing Eternity is all you have, then that's nothing. Gamora rescued Eternity with Galactus' help. Does that make them more powerful than Eternity? And if holding Eternity (if that was really Eternity) in her hand is an indication of power, then that would mean the other avatars were more powerful than Eternity also, since they were big enough to do the same. Why do other avatars get owned by people nowhere near Eternity's power?

In a straight up fight, Eternity has only been defeated by uber-powerful beings like IG, HOTU, and the Infinites (although technically not a battle).

Originally posted by Mordum

"The very core of creation itself" "the heart of the phoenix"

Here's that same "heart of the phoenix/core of creation" place,

Jamie teleported Rachel and Betsy to the WHite Hot Room, then after a short while he begins to Morph the White Hot Room

He appears flying by an image of Captain Britain

Jamie Braddock with total control of the WHR ("Heart of the Phoenix"😉

Jamie Warps it into a Crystal like object.

pointandlaugh White Hot Room

Originally posted by Mordum

"But the being that joined jean grey could not take its own life, for it was the Definition Of Creation. It simply could not"

This credits nothing to the Phoenix, since Jean has never destroyed, remade or created Eternity before, Phoenix can't win.

The most we have is the Phoenix Force consuming an alternate reality, (a What If) even Jean was destroyed by the Force.

Originally posted by Mordum
I think its safe to say phoenix wins this.

Not that safe.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
or GalacticStorm Phoenix?

and it is never safe to mess with the Hierarchy that Mr. Master has shown us so accurately. He knows where you live. He's like Galactus. He has all the power he needs, but prefers to eat stuff rather than use it.

Eternity has no feats. He sucks hes been punkd by everyone under the sun.

Originally posted by Mordum
Eternity has no feats. He sucks hes been punkd by everyone under the sun.

Beat up both an enchanted Juggernaut and a Fear Lord at the same time in a gesture. That Juggernaut was using mystic blast and stalemating the FL, which happened to be Nightmare.

Who punked him aside from Dormammu? Even then if you consider PF lost to Magneto, Eternity's low end is still higher.

This is ridiculous. Eternity freaking wins.

The only abstract beings that completely surpass Eternity are Living Tribunal and The One Above All.

I would also the Infinites

Originally posted by Mordum

"The very core of creation itself" "the heart of the phoenix"

"But the being that joined jean grey could not take its own life, for it was the Definition Of Creation. It simply could not"

I think its safe to say phoenix wins this.

Narrative Hyperbole. Not to be taken as fact.