Originally posted by guy222
In response to Xplosive, i believe Arishem true purpose was to let that world judge its own. I do like the Phoenix over Eternity. What comic did LT convince Phoenix to leave?
Like I know, it was said who are these space God to judge our fate, then Pheonix came, destroyed his hand and Celestials leaved.
I don't remember the issue, anyway I don't remember well, did Phoenix wanted to destroy the world or something, then LT came, hold her in his hands and said to leave.
People then here on forum say and exaggarete he bitchslapped her like a canary and something, while there was no battle, he only asked her to leave, Phoenix leaved.
Originally posted by XplosiveYou do realize the whole 'holding the universe in her hand' is figurative, right?
Or Eternity bitchslaped by Dormammu. Phoenix has some low feats, but I don' remember her losing to any cosmic being (and when LT stopped her, he didn't defaet her, actully convinced her to leave). She defaeted Galactus rather easily (and Galatcus trembeled before Dark Phoenix and pretty much said that her power source goes beyond that of his, Eternity said Galactus to be his equal) and once easily destroyed Celestial hand (when she wasn't close experinced) and then they levead.And PF more than once saved and healed the universe=Eternity and already manipulated him in the palm of her hands.
Originally posted by Galan007
That was a GS scam.He cropped a scan to make it look as though LT was refering to Phoenix, when in fact LT was refering to the Stranger..... Mr. M provided several scans of this.
Nice try though.
Originally posted by Lord S
You do realize the whole 'holding the universe in her hand' is figurative, right?
Hm, how so?
What are you talking about?
And don't tell me now, do you know what is figurative, you do realize that she was literally holding it in her hands on pannel, right?
And she saved and healed Eternity.
Originally posted by Galan007
Ohhh, my bad....I still don't see how thats any sort of feat.
No, I didn't say as some feat, I only said that many here than goes how LT bitchslapped her (it happened more times here on forums, many times), while nothing happened and they then they greatly exaggerate.
Originally posted by XplosiveYeah I agree that LT didnt bitchslap her, but if he wanted to of course he could.
Hm, how so?
What are you talking about?
And don't tell me now, do you know what is figurative, you do realize that she was literally hodling it in her hands, right?
And she saved and healed Eterntiy.No, I didn't say as some feat, I only said that many here than goes how LT bitchslapped her (it happened more times), while nothing happened
and they then they greatly exaggerate.
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah I agree that LT didnt bitchslap her, but if he wanted to of course he could.
You can say, but words don't count, so you can't know as I don't know.
PF had some low showings (as also Galactus let's say), but for LT to be mentioend as what he is and then what happened between him and others when they tried to stop Galactus, it was embrassing, and I don't know how coudl they write like that.
I have only seen a few beings capable of threatening Eternity. Abraxas, MultiEternity, the IG(becuz it's wearer ultimately replaces Eternity as the universe), the UN, all consuming Galactus, and THOTU. When Pheonix is shown on panel Destoying a universe, then she will be a threat to Eternity as well. with in Eternity lies the UN. He knows where it is. Him and Big G are buddies. give me that UN. And fries Pheonix with it. Everything that is in Eternity is his to use. Including Scarlet witch, the cosmic Cubes, Molecule Man, The Celestials, and what ever else he can dream of. many things inside his universal body that are Multiversal or Universal themselves. I can't see her winning.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I have only seen a few beings capable of threatening Eternity. Abraxas, MultiEternity, the IG(becuz it's wearer ultimately replaces Eternity as the universe), the UN, all consuming Galactus, and THOTU. When Pheonix is shown on panel Destoying a universe, then she will be a threat to Eternity as well. with in Eternity lies the UN. He knows where it is. Him and Big G are buddies. give me that UN. And fries Pheonix with it. Everything that is in Eternity is his to use. Including Scarlet witch, the cosmic Cubes, Molecule Man, The Celestials, and what ever else he can dream of. many things inside his universal body that are Multiversal or Universal themselves. I can't see her winning.
On panel, Eternity has not shown much as well. Speaking of what has eternity ever done except exist?
Originally posted by XplosiveOk who are these 'people', (if not figments of your imagination), you refer to?
I don't remember the issue, anyway I don't remember well, did Phoenix wanted to destroy the world or something, then LT came, hold her in his hands and said to leave.
People then here on forum say and exaggarete he bitchslapped her like a canary and something, while there was no battle, he only asked her to leave, Phoenix leaved.
I haven't seen anyone talk about bitchslapping when talking about the only known encounter between LT and PF.
I think when people talk about a potential LT vs PF fight, they refer to the idea that she'll be bitchslapped. Which is thoroughly believable...to pretty much everyone except you, who for some reason believes PF>LT. rolleyes1
Originally posted by IdoNice try, junior.
PF at her peak (maturity), is in charge of the rebirth and destruction of their designated realities.
While Eternity is the Universe, PF creates the Universe.
What you silly little X-fanboys need to understand is that Phoenix doesn't create shit...she is part of the process, not the process.
Originally posted by Idorolleyes1
On panel, Eternity has not shown much as well. Speaking of what has eternity ever done except exist?
Originally posted by Lord S
Nice try, junior.What you silly little X-fanboys need to understand is that Phoenix doesn't create shit...she is part of the process, not the process.
rolleyes1
Can you prove that PF is only part of the process? Regardless if it is, It still holds more authority over an Abstract.
And you still haven’t shown or explained what Eternity has done on panel that equals Phoenix of the White Crown?
Originally posted by Ido
Can you prove that PF is only part of the process? Regardless if it is, It still holds more authority over an Abstract.And you still haven’t shown or explained what Eternity has done on panel that equals Phoenix of the White Crown?
He wrestled and infinite. That is saying alot. Cuz the true infinities ain't no joke. He also has the power of every thing inside of himself.including the UN, and scarlet witch.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He wrestled and infinite. That is saying alot. Cuz the true infinities ain't no joke. He also has the power of every thing inside of himself.including the UN, and scarlet witch.
For all I care Eternity can have the UN, HOTU, and the power of all the cosmic within the 616 reality….and It still would not do a single thing to PoTWC, while Phoenix of the White Crown remains in the Hot Room, controlling the 616 reality in the palm of her hand.
Originally posted by IdoEternity doesn't have to do anything on panel...it is the panel. That's what you can't seem to get your head around.
Can you prove that PF is only part of the process? Regardless if it is, It still holds more authority over an Abstract.And you still haven’t shown or explained what Eternity has done on panel that equals Phoenix of the White Crown?
Originally posted by id369
For all I care Eternity can have the UN, HOTU, and the power of all the cosmic within the 616 reality….and It still would not do a single thing to PoTWC, while Phoenix of the White Crown remains in the Hot Room, controlling the 616 reality in the palm of her hand.
Wow. Talk about severely overrating the power of the Phoenix. White Crown or any other Phoenix Avatar has NEVER shown to have the kind of power that the UN and HOTU have. And when are people going to get over Jean holding a universe in her hand? Again, other avatars were also big enough to do the same thing yet we have seen other avatars lose to beings far less powerful than Eternity.
Originally posted by id369
For all I care Eternity can have the UN, HOTU, and the power of all the cosmic within the 616 reality….and It still would not do a single thing to PoTWC, while Phoenix of the White Crown remains in the Hot Room, controlling the 616 reality in the palm of her hand.
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