Wolverine vs US Agent · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by King_Mungi
20 superhumans eh? ha. Even in New Invaders he did actually dominate Wolverine.

hardly, he got a sneak attack on wolverine while wolverine was about to kill namor, then he used an oil tanker and an automatic weapon to blow wolvie up, and wolverine was STILL coming after him... and US agent ran away.....

how about wolverine 134, you know, where wolverine downs US agent in one friggin panal.. yeah.. sweet...

considering his less than steller feats vs. wolverine, and his straight up embarrassing feats against cap, I don't see how this guy can win. 😕

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by marvelprince
What were the circumstances in Infinite Crusade? Was it straight up h2h or was there surprise/treachery involved?

it was a friggin suprise attack, the scans are on the first page, logan was fighting and after securing a win he gets nailed from behind by us agent... hell this is AFTER the beating he took from wonderman too.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by King_Mungi
What was his shield like then?
Unbelviable see that's my point you continually spout out he dominates everyone and when there is evidence against you call PIS.

you mean like you did with wolverine 134?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually it does, because he's highly trained and showed he can take him down. Even Wonderman bashed Wolverine in Infinite Crusade couldn't finish Wolverine like the US Agent could.

did you ever stop to think that MAYBE... just MAYBE all that fighting was taking it's toll on wolverine... hell the guy down's living lighting, dops shaman, takes a sneak attack from wonderman and stalemates gamera only to get ANOTHER sneak attack from US agent.. (the pussy was sneak attacking people all day too), he was gonna go down eventually...

Originally posted by King_Mungi
There is no issue where he beats Alpha Flight, and you said he did and argued for it. Then when someone mentioned Guardian already beat him, you basically called PIS....again and even said it was a fluke. A FLUKE?

considering he's had another several encounters since then and gaurdians never been able to reproduce the feat is it really that much of a stretch?

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Right and twice US Agent has already ko'ed him on his own 🙄

I don't know if "on his own" is exactly how I'd refer to it.... considering he had wonderman's help on one occasion (among others), and his new invaders team, an oil tanker, and an automatic weapon on the other, hell even then on the second occasion it wasn't even a KO considering wolverine walked out of the inferno, just, well more pissed.... HELL HE FRIGGIN RAN A-WAY from wolverine to boot.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
What did he do to show he's near Hulk level? 😐 Handbooks are never accurate.

I don't know about hulk level, but wolverine thinks he's close, he's one punched a car in debris (not even recognizable peices), he's picked up a 35 ton construction vehichle over his head with one hand, and he's dropped a skyscraper.

harri I may be a geek

spam

King_Mungi ...........

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Maybe, sometimes they publish the same fight in more then one book from different perspectives. In Avengers 84 though they clash shields and Cap back hands Walker. Walker then pulls a gun and trys to shoot Cap but he blocks it with his shield. Cap moves into melee and punches Walker in the stomach. Walker pulls out a grenade but Cap hits him in the chest with his shield and catchs the grenade before it hits the ground.

Yeah that was different, they continued clashing with their shields for 3-4 pages, melee for another 2 and then it ended.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Didn't say you thought Walker would get the majority, was questioning whether or not you thought Logan would get the majority
I agree. Still don't think he could beat Logan but he is underestimated

He very well could, but as I stated no way is Wolverine going to easily beat him or win 10/10

That was my entire point, he is definetly being underated.

King_Mungi ...........

Originally posted by jinzin
I don't know if "on his own" is exactly how I'd refer to it.... considering he had wonderman's help on one occasion (among others), and his new invaders team, an oil tanker, and an automatic weapon on the other, hell even then on the second occasion it wasn't even a KO considering wolverine walked out of the inferno, just, well more pissed.... HELL HE FRIGGIN RAN A-WAY from wolverine to boot.

No he didn't, his KO on Infinity Crusade was his doing. What so US Agent can't use all his goods from energy shields the convincer that can shatter steel with a tap, etc? No as noted his mission was to save Namor, he saved Namor life and took him away,

Originally posted by jinzin
hardly, he got a sneak attack on wolverine while wolverine was about to kill namor, then he used an oil tanker and an automatic weapon to blow wolvie up, and wolverine was STILL coming after him... and US agent ran away.....
how about wolverine 134, you know, where wolverine downs US agent in one friggin panal.. yeah.. sweet...
considering his less than steller feats vs. wolverine, and his straight up embarrassing feats against cap, I don't see how this guy can win. 😕

Already discussed

Already discussed.

Pre-upgrade US Agent was getting dominated, after he got the exo-suit he was koing people even vastly superior to him.

Originally posted by jinzin
you mean like you did with wolverine 134?
did you ever stop to think that MAYBE... just MAYBE all that fighting was taking it's toll on wolverine... hell the guy down's living lighting, dops shaman, takes a sneak attack from wonderman and stalemates gamera only to get ANOTHER sneak attack from US agent.. (the pussy was sneak attacking people all day too), he was gonna go down eventually...
considering he's had another several encounters since then and gaurdians never been able to reproduce the feat is it really that much of a stretch?

Repeat much?

Living Lightening knocked himself out from running into a rock all Wolverine did was jump, and he punched Shaman with one punch as Shaman allowed him to so he could jorney undected in astral form to find Talisman. So the only think that would have been a toll on him was Wonder Woman, and your forgetting US Agent was fighting people before hand too. It wasn't just Wolverine chap.

Ha! you obviously have no idea what Guardian can do. Alright then Jinzin shall I make a Guardian vs. Wolverine thread than? since you believe he can beat him and all.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No he didn't, his KO on Infinity Crusade was his doing. What so US Agent can't use all his goods from energy shields the convincer that can shatter steel with a tap, etc? No as noted his mission was to save Namor, he saved Namor life and took him away,

oh he didn't? so I just imagined wolverine fighting multiple people all day long, I just imagined wonderman landing a hostile sneak attack on wolverine for a page straight.. pffft.. please he had a significant amoutn of help AND used a sneak attack.
I'd prefer if he used what he's going to be using in this thread... we don't assume that wolverine has his tengu sword for ever fight on the boards do we? no...

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Already discussed
Already discussed.
Pre-upgrade US Agent was getting dominated, after he got the exo-suit he was koing people even vastly superior to him

and STILL ran from wolverine and STILL got stalemated by cap.. good for him... he still sucks.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Repeat much?

sorry but your simple obsevation of feats doesn't seem to instill how the facts actually went down iinto your brain very well so i thought pounding it in this way would.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Living Lightening knocked himself out from running into a rock all Wolverine did was jump,

it was a dodging jump.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and he punched Shaman with one punch as Shaman allowed him to so he could jorney undected in astral form to find Talisman.

allowed him? he stated this? post a scan... othewise you're just grasping here.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
So the only think that would have been a toll on him was Wonder Woman, and your forgetting US Agent was fighting people before hand too. It wasn't just Wolverine chap.

us agent snuck attacked beast.. big woop for him.. and what do you mean, "the only" like a barrage of hits from wonderMAN (not woman) isn't going to do ANYTHING? I wonder how us agent would have looked after that attack... probably worse than he looks when cap beats on him... lol.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ha! you obviously have no idea what Guardian can do. Alright then Jinzin shall I make a Guardian vs. Wolverine thread than? since you believe he can beat him and all.

that's not even what I said.. I said that gaurdian's failed to repeat the same feat that he accomplished in the first place, his KO punch that everyone makes out to be a big deal... and to that end I'm correct. he hasn't... never said I though guardian would be beaten by wolverine, esspecially considering that wolverine's already admitted mac can take him.. you seem to comprehend my posts as well as you do sneak attacks in comics..

King_Mungi ...........

Originally posted by jinzin
oh he didn't? so I just imagined wolverine fighting multiple people all day long, I just imagined wonderman landing a hostile sneak attack on wolverine for a page straight.. pffft.. please he had a significant amoutn of help AND used a sneak attack.
I'd prefer if he used what he's going to be using in this thread... we don't assume that wolverine has his tengu sword for ever fight on the boards do we? no...
and STILL ran from wolverine and STILL got stalemated by cap.. good for him... he still sucks.
sorry but your simple obsevation of feats doesn't seem to instill how the facts actually went down iinto your brain very well so i thought pounding it in this way would.
it was a dodging jump.
allowed him? he stated this? post a scan... othewise you're just grasping here.
us agent snuck attacked beast.. big woop for him.. and what do you mean, "the only" like a barrage of hits from wonderMAN (not woman) isn't going to do ANYTHING? I wonder how us agent would have looked after that attack... probably worse than he looks when cap beats on him... lol.
that's not even what I said.. I said that gaurdian's failed to repeat the same feat that he accomplished in the first place, his KO punch that everyone makes out to be a big deal... and to that end I'm correct. he hasn't... never said I though guardian would be beaten by wolverine, esspecially considering that wolverine's already admitted mac can take him.. you seem to comprehend my posts as well as you do sneak attacks in comics..

US Agent and all the other heores did the exact same thing, or did you forget the story wasn't Wolverine centered? Yet he always carries the things around and got a modified convincer even recently. This is who US Agent is, he was a gun totting character in that series.

i don't think you even read my previous posts have you? This isn't about US Agent winning the majority, it's about he is being underestimated.

No basically your using an outdated feat before he got his upgrade. Justified? no.

Oh yes that would take a major toll 🙄

Here, now hush
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-06.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-07.jpg
3. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-09.jpg
4. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-10.jpg
5. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-11.jpg
6. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-12.jpg

Sure Wonderman's blows hit damage, but he never ko'ed him. Also you all think so highly of his healing factor he can shrug off blows from Colossus as you said in the Wolverine vs. Sasquatch thread. All this has been discussed already.

No I remember debating with you and srank about Wolverine vs. Guardian, also no it wasn't a sneak attack against Wolverine as it was Wolverine who delivered the next blow. Has Guardian ever punched him again? no. Does that automatically mean he can't? no.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by King_Mungi
US Agent and all the other heores did the exact same thing, or did you forget the story wasn't Wolverine centered? Yet he always carries the things around and got a modified convincer even recently. This is who US Agent is, he was a gun totting character in that series.

IN THAT SERIES.. exactly, wolverine had death's armor in that arc i guess we defer to that version eery time it suits us huh?

wolverine's got his tengu sword in origins I guess he has it for all his fights right?

wrong.. you're being bias as all hell.. and yeah everyone was doing the exact same thing but that's not the point.. the point is that KOing someone who's already been taxed to some extend and doing it using a SNEAK ATTACK isn't relivant to Koing them in a straight fight... am I giving you to much credit to figure that out on your own?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
i don't think you even read my previous posts have you? This isn't about US Agent winning the majority, it's about he is being underestimating.

been reading em, and I'm not disagreeing... what we're discussing right now has nothng to do with that however so don't chance the topic, you're skewing the hell out of the pro-agent feats vs. wolverine you've been using in this thread and don't act like you're not.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No basically your using an outdated feat before he got his upgrade. Justified? no.

no I'm correcting your skewed perception of those feats.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Here, now hush
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-06.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-07.jpg
3. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-09.jpg
4. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-10.jpg
5. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-11.jpg
6. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-12.jpg

hmm well regardless it's a small matter.. you've still got the rest to account for.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Sure Wonderman's blows hit damage, but he never ko'ed him. Also you all think so highly of his healing factor he can shrug off blows from Colossus as you said in the Wolverine vs. Sasquatch thread. All this has been discussed already.

it's like you just refuse to understand this...

yes wolverine can take those hits,
yes he can shrug them off..
and yes he can heal from them,
but they still mass up, they still get taxing, and the more time he goes on without replenishing himself the more hindering they end up in the long run.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No I remember debating with you and srank about Wolverine vs. Guardian, also no it wasn't a sneak attack against Wolverine as it was Wolverine who delivered the next blow. Has Guardian ever punched him again? no. Does that automatically mean he can't? no.

I'm not referring to gaurdians attack as a sneak attack, though it was relatively unexpected.. but that doesn't matter... the thing is that you're trying to make mac's one KO the standard we both know that it's not.. and until he's got some consistency to make it the standard, all you've got is one solitary FLUKE like capt said.

King_Mungi ...........

Originally posted by jinzin
IN THAT SERIES.. exactly, wolverine had death's armor in that arc i guess we defer to that version eery time it suits us huh?
wolverine's got his tengu sword in origins I guess he has it for all his fights right?
wrong.. you're being bias as all hell.. and yeah everyone was doing the exact same thing but that's not the point.. the point is that KOing someone who's already been taxed to some extend and doing it using a SNEAK ATTACK isn't relivant to Koing them in a straight fight... am I giving you to much credit to figure that out on your own?
been reading em, and I'm not disagreeing... what we're discussing right now has nothng to do with that however so don't chance the topic, you're skewing the hell out of the pro-agent feats vs. wolverine you've been using in this thread and don't act like you're not.
no I'm correcting your skewed perception of those feats.
hmm well regardless it's a small matter.. you've still got the rest to account for.
it's like you just refuse to understand this...
yes wolverine can take those hits,
yes he can shrug them off..
and yes he can heal from them,
but they still mass up, they still get taxing, and the more time he goes on without replenishing himself the more hindering they end up in the long run.
I'm not referring to gaurdians attack as a sneak attack, though it was relatively unexpected.. but that doesn't matter... the thing is that you're trying to make mac's one KO the standard we both know that it's not.. and until he's got some consistency to make it the standard, all you've got is one solitary FLUKE like capt said.

My god, US Agent still carries around those weapons. He didn't discard them.

Right and how long did he have it? does he have it now? no. US Agent still does.

No it is the point since you said he was taxed from all his battle, when 2/3 he didn't do anything of physical labor other than a jump and a punch. Wonderman is where he was taxed on, but he even quickly recovered. I wasn't talking about a straight up fight. My my my, getting testy?

No I'm not, basically the debate turned into we can accept Wolverine feats by not US Agents. All of which has already been discussed. My entire beef is the comment Wolverine easily wins or wins "10/10" other than that is a moot point.

No you mentioned a feat that was already discussed multiple times and outdated. No point at all.

Hardly, as you claimed he was fighting all day so what? US Agent and everyone else was

No, it's comments directly from other threads by you and others concerning Wolverine where as I quote: "wolverine shrugs off colossus punches, wolverine's been blown up on multiple occasions and kept fighting like nothing happened.. " apparently it's not taxing by your standards

Mac wanted to talk, Wolverine attack. Actually your debating the wrong thing Srank believed Wolverine could beat him with all his abilities not just in a melee battle and then you agreed. I had a long debate with him on this. I wasn't at that point even talking about his punch KO.

Daredevil1 Senior Member

Incorrect, as stated US Agent is superhuman and as stated Captain is peak human. Hardly? seeing as he was trained in Captain America's fighting style
Incorrect, he got the advantage over a pre S.T.A.R.S. upgrade US Agent. US Agent has shown pressure point fight as well, point?
He's not as skilled, but people are completly ignoring he is still highly highly skilled
Possibly, my entire point was the comments that Wolverine easily wins or wins 10/10. Get where I'm coming from?

Superhuman in certain areas not all categories in stats. Cap's is more agile and faster if we look at there fight and feats in "speed".

That I do agree Logan is not winning easily.

King_Mungi ...........

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Superhuman in certain areas not all categories in stats. Cap's is more agile and faster if we look at there fight and feats in "speed".
That I do agree Logan is not winning easily.

Actually yeah he is, thanks to his various manipulations. He's all superhuman, and he has just as many agility and speed feats as Cap as well

Thanks, that's all I wanted to point out
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Anyways I will take this time to apologize to Jinzin as I have calmed down since, and will say sorry for getting aggresive in our debate.

Daredevil1 Senior Member

Actually yeah he is, thanks to his various manipulations. He's all superhuman, and he has just as many agility and speed feats as Cap as well
Thanks, that's all I wanted to point out
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Anyways I will take this time to apologize to Jinzin as I have calmed down since, and will say sorry for getting aggresive in our debate.

Your words are good but proof is better. I own must of his appearances in Cap vol 1 and some others. And its more in just strength and durability were he's enhanced.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Post the scans, the mere fact a 2 tonner KO a 70 tonner is outrageous

Don’t have a scanner and there no need to. Why is ti out ragerous? Did you nto ehar me when I said strength does not equal durability. Also a normal human martial artist has in real life generate the force a 40 mile car crash would make. That man can only bench 300 pounds. Logan who far more skilled has superhuman reaction speed two ton strength and chi ability could easily generate enough damage over time to KO a 70 tonner.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
right and one again you claim it would be an easy feat, have you seen who US Agent has gone against?

Did I say ti would be easy again? No I did not.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Thanks, but as stated Roughhouse has high durability. That's like punching out Doc Samson, this is ridiculous

He has level 5 durability that’s bullet proof how ever it lower then many high class peoples durability. Yet you have no problems with ronan being ko in one hit?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
hanks, but how did she get stabbed before? due to Jean's influence as stated.

Ya and as I stated when dark pheniox took over logan just kept stabbing her again. Which is clearly pis.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not claimed he did, but you accept feats of Roughouse yet you cry foul when I post a higher feat?

There no problem with the rough-house feat logan beat him repeatedly not in one hit. One hit just ridiculous.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Case in point, Guardian first introduction, Sabertooth, etc..

Sabertooth is class 15 tons at that time and was using slashing damage not really helping your case.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Overall no, but as STATED he knows how to make it count with what he does.

That makes no senses. He can nto generate the damage that wonderman a skilled 100 tonner can.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not really

Yes it was an what year was infinity crusade made in?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Right, there you go overestimating Wolverine. You make it seem it's easy.

Over estimating? How is that over estimating? You are over estimating us agent if you think logan will not be landing hits.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
I said that already. I actually know a lot about Wolverine. I just don't give him more credit than he's due.

No you underestimate him and you clearly do not read his comics.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Eh, that's debatable as well. Taskmaster's training is like gold.

No it not. Capt training some one in his own style is far better then taskmaster teaching some one capts style.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
The guys has trained some of the greatest assasins and combatants on Marvel Earth.

Big deal. Logan trained weapon omega. Stick trained DD and electra. Ogun trained wolverine. He not that great he not on the level of skill of stick and ogun.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Saying that Wolverine's skill trumps USAgent is honestly biased. I know you're a Wolverine fan, but you need to give credit where credit is due.

Did I say it trump US agent? No I said logan superior in skill which is a true statement.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Also, saying Ogun is the best swordsman in the MU is a little shortsighted.

No it not. You clearly know nothing about ogun.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
You're forgetting Shanna the She-Devil, Namor, Conan the Barbarian, Black Knight, Swordsman, etc that are swordsmen that have been established as the best.

Are you serous? Non of them compare to ogun skills. Ogun the man who made him self superhuman due to his training. The man who has 1000 years of experienced. The man who killed some of the greatest swordsmen in the world. The man who is consider = to stick in combat.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Ogun doesn't have much going for him in that area, considering he's never matched blades with any of the greats. .

Namor not even a skilled swords men. Swordsmen got beat by logan who ogun has match blade with. Trust me you know not a thing of what your talking about.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones

Eh, when it comes to Cap and USAgent they break even. Cap's only advantage is his experience and willpower in battle.

Ya will power helps capt win are you out of your mind? Caot out matched in stats and ti clear his skills are what makes him able to fight US agent

Originally posted by Howard_Jones

Scan the fights, or lead me in the direction of them. It sounds like you're leaving out context, length of battle, circumstances beforehand, etc. You wouldn't want me saying that Punisher beat Wolverine, and say nothing else. You'd probably want me to give the detail of the fact that he hit Wolverine in the nuts with a baseball bat after blowing off his face, then blowing his nuts off, then running him over with a steamroller.

Ya ennis comic are always good evidence since we all know he in love with punisher and hates all super powered people. The same writer who had punisher beating spiderman in h2h combat. Ya good evidence there.

Daredevil1 Senior Member

US Agent has shown pressure point fight as well, point?

Issue number and title would be appreciated for such a feat?

Jyppe PM me for nudes ;)

Originally posted by capt it up
Don’t have a scanner and there no need to. Why is ti out ragerous? Did you nto ehar me when I said strength does not equal durability. Also a normal human martial artist has in real life generate the force a 40 mile car crash would make. That man can only bench 300 pounds. Logan who far more skilled has superhuman reaction speed two ton strength and chi ability could easily generate enough damage over time to KO a 70 tonner.

Yet you said that all Chi stuff is BS in another thread. People say Spiderman wouldn't be able to KO Thing.. Wolverine isn't KOing Roughhouse, at least he shouldn't be.

1. Feat was BS/PIS
2. Roughhouse sucks *ss
3. Roughhouse is actually a little girl with little durability.

Of course might be able to KO him if House's durability wasn't that great. And didn't he previously like take a house to the head?

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by King_Mungi
My god, US Agent still carries around those weapons. He didn't discard them.

he carries around automatic weapons and oil tankers everywhere he goes? 😕
scans?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Right and how long did he have it? does he have it now? no. US Agent still does.

wolverine's had it for about a full year now, even longer.. and he still does.. 😐

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No it is the point since you said he was taxed from all his battle, when 2/3 he didn't do anything of physical labor other than a jump and a punch. Wonderman is where he was taxed on, but he even quickly recovered. I wasn't talking about a straight up fight. My my my, getting testy?

actually that is the point, if you didn't post a pic of us agent getting a sneak attack and KOing an already messed up wolverine, then I wouldn't be debating against it...

look, yes wolverine recovered, but after that his healing factor isn't going to be working at 100%, especially when he's already pressed it, and continued to go in without replenishing himself. and I'd say that all the running he was shown doing, pretty much the entire day, would certainly be a little laborous... again... all us agent did that day was get sneak attacks on two people... woopdidoo... and obviously we ARE talking about a straight fight because that's what this thread would imply... not us agent, vs. unsuspecting wolverine after he's been beat up by wonderman and stalemated gamera...
as for who's testy.. well we already covered this in pm's so I'll let that go.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No I'm not, basically the debate turned into we can accept Wolverine feats by not US Agents. All of which has already been discussed. My entire beef is the comment Wolverine easily wins or wins "10/10" other than that is a moot point.

i disagree.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No you mentioned a feat that was already discussed multiple times and outdated. No point at all.

first off you brought those feats up before me, second, you brought them up in a skewed perspective... third the point was to correct that skewed perspective... and fourth, if you don't like the feats you brought up why did you?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hardly, as you claimed he was fighting all day so what? US Agent and everyone else was

US agent wasn't though....
wolverine had at least four other opponents before u.s. agent got to him.... u.s. agent on the other hand... well.. he snuck attacked a beast who was recovering from the KO that captain america blasted him with.... again the attack came from behind.. friggin sweet eh?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No, it's comments directly from other threads by you and others concerning Wolverine where as I quote: "wolverine shrugs off colossus punches, wolverine's been blown up on multiple occasions and kept fighting like nothing happened.. " apparently it's not taxing by your standards

where did I state that those are not taxing?
it's a fact that wolverine takes that kind of abuse without minding much.. but again you're skewing why i said that.. I said it to make another point entirely... but that comment has no indication on how taxing I feel those attacks can be....
the point.. again.. is that the KO you were reffering to is irrelivant as it was shrouded in circumstances..
simply put:
after an assualt from wonderman wolverine is not going to take damage the same way he would before an assualt from wonderman.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Mac wanted to talk, Wolverine attack. Actually your debating the wrong thing Srank believed Wolverine could beat him with all his abilities not just in a melee battle and then you agreed. I had a long debate with him on this. I wasn't at that point even talking about his punch KO.

If I did agree to this it must have been a hella long time ago....
I think what you're reffering to is when I agreed with srank on the point that when alpha flight was shown fighting the x-men later on wolverine had mac dead to rights.. and he did.. that's not an opinion, it's right there on the panal... that doesn't mean I think wolverine can take mac.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Jyppe
Yet you said that all Chi stuff is BS in another thread. People say Spiderman wouldn't be able to KO Thing.. Wolverine isn't KOing Roughhouse, at least he shouldn't be.
1. Feat was BS/PIS
2. Roughhouse sucks *ss
3. Roughhouse is actually a little girl with little durability.
Of course might be able to KO him if House's durability wasn't that great. And didn't he previously like take a house to the head?

i don't see much pronblem with wolverine KOing a super strength character... I mean logan's three times stonger than captain america and look what kind of crazy KO's the cap's put on people..
logan also knows those pressure points, soft spots etc etc... and he's backed by the most durable metal in the universe.. he's bones have more durability than who he's hitting.. I mean damn, warpath's a guy that fought jugernaught an entire afternoon and claimed he wasn't hurt.. but he hurt himself punching logan in the jaw.... logan KOing somebody of greater strength than him ins't that big a deal imo.