Darth Maul vs Mace Windu

The question is.......would Maul have put up a better fight than Sidious did in RotS. There are no other jedi just these two. Senate office😖ame setting.

Considering that Sidious was at his peak in lightsaber combat at TPM, and defeated Maul, the answer is no. Maul would be most equivalent to Obi Wan. Mace would destroy him faster than he took out Sidious.

Would Maul have put up a better fight? No. As for Mace vs. Maul, Mace is the better swordsman and better Force user. He wins this with, perhaps, moderate difficulty.

I was just asking because, Maul looked alot better in TPM than Palpatine did in RotS. Also, Yoda is more powerful than Mace as we all know and lost/stalemated/retreated whatever you want to call it and Mace put him on his ***. And if it hadn't had been for Skywalker, Palpatine would be dead IMO. I don't buy that "hrew the fight" BS.

Maul would lose, no way to bullshit around it. However, it would be a ***** for Windu. Mace has a definite victory, but, it'll be tough.

Mace wtfdestroys him.

Mace destroys him. Maul is actually pretty whack; he was getting bested by an enraged padawan Obi-Wan, he's barely mastered an incomplete form, he's reckless, leaves himself open far too much. He's flashy, and acrobatic, I'll give him that, but his technique is pretty shoddy. I give him 15 seconds tops.

Please. RotJ Luke wasn't as skilled as RotJ Vader, but when he tapped into the dark side, he was destroying him in combat. It gives the user a slight edge against his opponent for enough time; that's all.

That Maul was able to manhandle Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon simultaneously ought to make it clear that he is, individually, better than both of them by a solid amount.

There's no way Maul's going to win, but his speed and ferocity would likely give Mace a bit of trouble. Just a bit, though.

Maul is too fast, strong, skilled, and smart to be destroyed by Mace (or anyone, really, who isn't Luke or some other uber character) easily in lightsaber combat. Mace wins, but, it's not a walk in the park. It was said that Qui Gon, who was beaten, after meditating, in thirty seconds by Maul was on par with Mace. In Shadow Hunter, I believe, it says that Maul would like to test his skills against someone like Mace Windu. This is however as of TPM, and Mace has grown since then. Mace wins, but, it takes some effort.

Originally posted by Gideon
Please. RotJ Luke wasn't as skilled as RotJ Vader, but when he tapped into the dark side, he was destroying him in combat. It gives the user a slight edge against his opponent for enough time; that's all.

That Maul was able to manhandle Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon simultaneously ought to make it clear that he is, individually, better than both of them by a solid amount.

There's no way Maul's going to win, but his speed and ferocity would likely give Mace a bit of trouble. Just a bit, though.

Mace would raise an eyebrow:"This is some ****ed-up repugnant shit!"

Afterwards he would massacre Maul. 😛

This is however as of TPM, and Mace has grown since then. Mace wins, but, it takes some effort.

Mace grows a lot JJ. Lucas even mentions Mace was able to "overpower" Sidious. Add in Maul's cockiness, and the fact that Vaapad is a superconducting loop for hatred (which Maul really loves to use being a Sith and all) and Maul will surely go down hard, I would think.

Originally posted by zephiel7
Mace would raise an eyebrow:"This is some ****ed-up repugnant shit!"

Afterwards he would massacre Maul. 😛

No.

He'd don the fro, put his lightsaber away, whip out his gun, and blow Maul to hell.

Probably read a verse from the Bible, lol.

Originally posted by Gideon
Please. RotJ Luke wasn't as skilled as RotJ Vader, but when he tapped into the dark side, he was destroying him in combat. It gives the user a slight edge against his opponent for enough time; that's all.

..and Mace constantly has that advantage.

That Maul was able to manhandle Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon simultaneously ought to make it clear that he is, individually, better than both of them by a solid amount.

Did we watch the same movie? He was only able to 'manhandle' them one on one, together he was only just able to contend and had to constantly separate them.

There's no way Maul's going to win, but his speed and ferocity would likely give Mace a bit of trouble. Just a bit, though.

His speed and ferocity would work against him, not for him. The more ferocious Maul gets, the more open he leaves himself, it wouldn't take long for Mace to find an opening, especially when considering his shatterpoint talent.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Maul is too fast, strong, skilled,

He's pretty fast and strong, nothing too special in that respect, but technically, he sucks. He's barely mastered an incomplete form, he's reckless, he leaves himself open, and a padawan was able to best, that goes to show how unskilled Maul was.

and smart to be destroyed by Mace (or anyone, really, who isn't Luke or some other uber character)easily in lightsaber combat.

LMFAO! Yep, Maul's one smart SoB!

Mace wins, but, it's not a walk in the park. It was said that Qui Gon, who was beaten, after meditating, in thirty seconds by Maul was on par with Mace. In Shadow Hunter, I believe, it says that Maul would like to test his skills against someone like Mace Windu. This is however as of TPM, and Mace has grown since then. Mace wins, but, it takes some effort.

He wouldn't have to try at all, Mace completely destroys him.

No. The TPM visual guide makes it quite clear that Maul was one of the deadliest apprentices in Sith history. Mace wouldn't lose. But he's not going to take two swings and cut Maul in half, heavens no. And, like I said. Obi-Wan didn't best him.

But, hey. Kudos for being an idiot, Planet.

No. The TPM visual guide makes it quite clear that Maul was one of the deadliest apprentices in Sith history.

I forgot you needed authors to make up your mind for you.
And the key word = 'apprentice'.

Mace wouldn't lose. But he's not going to take two swings and cut Maul in half, heavens no.

Did I say that?

And, like I said. Obi-Wan didn't best him.

Yes, he did. He sliced his saber in two, kicked him like he was a little b1tch, had Maul running, and Maul had to use a force power to stop the onslaught.

But, hey. Kudos for being an idiot, Planet.

Kudos for not knowing jack about sword fighting, Gideon.

Mace doesn't destroy Zabrak. Neither does he have hell. It'll be a good fight with some difficulty posed by Maul, but nothing too serious.

I forgot you needed authors to make up your mind for you.

You've always used those statements when authors' have contradicted your opinion. I've always found it a bit odd; your opinion simply doesn't matter. Maul is one of the most deadly Sith apprentices in history.

And the key word = 'apprentice'.

Aren't you the one proclaiming Bastilla to be God's gift to dueling? What was she? Oh, yeah, a padawan - which is technically less than a Sith apprentice in terms of hierarchy. So, obviously, Maul's status as an apprentice won't discredit his abilities with a saber.

Nice attempt at double standards, though. 🙄

Did I say that?

You said "15 seconds tops". An exaggeration. Obi-Wan was able to last longer against Dooku in AotC and in RotS for longer than that, despite being completely outclassed by him.

Mace's gonna win, no doubt. But Maul isn't going to go down easily.

Yes, he did. He sliced his saber in two, kicked him like he was a little b1tch, had Maul running, and Maul had to use a force power to stop the onslaught.

No, he didn't. Again: read the novelization. Using Force powers in combat is perfectly legitimate. Maul outmaneuvered him and outwitted him, due to Obi-Wan's seconds of complete recklessness. So, no. He wasn't winning.

Kudos for not knowing jack about sword fighting, Gideon.

Yes, Sword Master, 'cause you've shown us that you're an expert on it.

Maul was at his peak in TPM and incredibly skilled, but Mace is the better fighter in this match...

Mace wins this possibly with some slight difficulty, but there's no way that Mace will lose. Maul isn't overcoming one of the best swordsmen in the SW universe armed with an Uber version of Mauls own lightsaber style as well as having his shatterpoint ability. Plus Mace is probably more physically powerful then Maul, seeing as Maul isn't a very big guy, he's fast and strong for his size, but he's no Anakin or Mace. Mace would just pummel him into the ground with Vaapad and there's not a whole lot Maul could do about it. Mace 10/10

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Mace wins this possibly with some slight difficulty, but there's no way that Mace will lose. Maul isn't overcoming one of the best swordsmen in the SW universe armed with an Uber version of Mauls own lightsaber style as well as having his shatterpoint ability. Plus Mace is probably more physically powerful then Maul, seeing as Maul isn't a very big guy, he's fast and strong for his size, but he's no Anakin or Mace. Mace would just pummel him into the ground with Vaapad and there's not a whole lot Maul could do about it. Mace 10/10