Cyclops vs. Punisher

Started by Silent Master10 pages
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
The idea of forum fights is for charactersa to be motivated enough to fight to the best of their ability. This implies that Punisher would be looking to shoot to kill in this fight. Seeing as Cyclops, IC would be doing the same.

In which case Cyke would have no problems using wide beams, that was my point.

He was trying to discount the use of wide beams by saying that's OOC for Scott all the while having Frank use head shots on a hero.

Originally posted by Silent Master
In which case Cyke would have no problems using wide beams, that was my point.

He was trying to discount the use of wide beams by saying that's OOC for Scott all the while having Frank use head shots on a hero.

But I would argue that it is easily feasable for Frank to be using head shots on a hero. He shoots to kill. However, IC, Scotts not going to use a FP blast on a human. He'd see it as overkill. It's like using a flamethrower to light a birthday cake.

Originally posted by Silent Master
In which case Cyke would have no problems using wide beams, that was my point.

He was trying to discount the use of wide beams by saying that's OOC for Scott all the while having Frank use head shots on a hero.

So ur saying scott is gunna start the fight by just using a wide blast?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
But I would argue that it is easily feasable for Frank to be using head shots on a hero. He shoots to kill. However, IC, Scotts not going to use a FP blast on a human. He'd see it as overkill. It's like using a flamethrower to light a birthday cake.
WOW! We agree again, i think its a sign of the end of times!

If it's the Punisher and he's trying to kill Cyclops, it's completely in character for him to use whatever it takes to bring him down. X-Men generally do not kill, but they will kill if necessary.

To silent masters defense i think he was talking about me saying it would be out of character for scott to kill human with the optic blast, which would be regardless in this fight. Though i didn't mean that it might have sounded like i do. If you didn't i would just lie and say u did cuz this ain't getting any better.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
But I would argue that it is easily feasable for Frank to be using head shots on a hero. He shoots to kill. However, IC, Scotts not going to use a FP blast on a human. He'd see it as overkill. It's like using a flamethrower to light a birthday cake.

If Cyke is trying to kill Frank why would he be worried about overkill?

Originally posted by Silent Master
If Cyke is trying to kill Frank why would he be worried about overkill?
Out of character, i don't think there is any way of convincing you otherwise, maybe u have to sleep on it. Anywho, how does scott win again?

Originally posted by jgiant
So ur saying scott is gunna start the fight by just using a wide blast?

No, just that it's possible seeing as he is trying to kill Frank, personally I don't think he fire until he knew Frank was near, like he did when he snuck up on Wolverine.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, just that it's possible seeing as he is trying to kill Frank, personally I don't think he fire until he knew Frank was near, like he did when he snuck up on Wolverine.
Ok now were getting somewhere. Forget about those last posts. Your saying scott is gunna sneak up on frank in his own environment? I say frank's huge advantage is that it is in a jungle.

I wouldn't say he manages to sneak up on him everytime, but he did manage to do it to Wolverine so I don't see it as impossible.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I wouldn't say he manages to sneak up on him everytime, but he did manage to do it to Wolverine so I don't see it as impossible.
I'd call psi on that wolvie sneek up. Wolvie should be able to smell him before he got the drop, u have any scans?

Originally posted by jgiant
WOW! We agree again, i think its a sign of the end of times!

😂

Well, I gotta give credit where it's due, right?

Oh, and Cyke still takes this 😉

No, but it was when the X-men were tricked into thinking he was Dark Phoenix.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
😂

Well, I gotta give credit where it's due, right?

Oh, and Cyke still takes this 😉

Damn i almost thought i made u turn to the dark side.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, but it was when the X-men were tricked into thinking he was Dark Phoenix.
Ohh, i say wolvie would have sensed him a while before he got near him.

Re: Cyclops vs. Punisher

Originally posted by Faceman
Fights in some jungle....

You didn't clarify this match enough.

How far apart do they start?

Do they get prep?

What's Punisher's arsenal?

All these things need to be answered. 😕

Originally posted by Metalmanx
You didn't clarify this match enough.

How far apart do they start?

Do they get prep?

What's Punisher's arsenal?

All these things need to be answered. 😕

If they start on different sides of the jungle and the punisher has an m16 and a .45 or two, he can do it without prep. He'll use the time it takes scott to even come close to him to set up some environmental traps or something that will actually make pun aware of scotts presence and then he just waits for the right time to clip him.

That assumes that Cyke tries to find him instead of just making traps himself or just finds a place where Punisher has to come at him from the front.

Re: Re: Cyclops vs. Punisher

Originally posted by Metalmanx
You didn't clarify this match enough.

How far apart do they start?

Do they get prep?

What's Punisher's arsenal?

All these things need to be answered. 😕

1. On opposite sides of the jungle...

2. They have been told that the other person is their enemy...

3. Standard gear

Originally posted by Silent Master
BTW, what’s stopping Cyke was setting traps or finding a place where he can ambush Frank, after he did the same to the X-men including Wolverine when they were mind controlled into thinking he was Dark Phoenix.

thank god someone said it...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
His visor controls the power and the intensity of the beam, not him. When he takes his visor off he is getting 100% so the fact that the damage didn't go past 100 yards is proof that his maxium range is likely around 100 yards.

wrong. he controls the blast the way you or i would focus with our eyes...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
WIS. If he could control the energy out put of his blasts he wouldn't need his visor. With out his visor he is going all out and there isn't anything he can do about it.

he cant turn them off, thats why he wears the visor...

Originally posted by jgiant
I'd call psi on that wolvie sneek up. Wolvie should be able to smell him before he got the drop, u have any scans?

check the cyclops respect thread, i put them there myself... and he had set the danger room to help hide him better...

Originally posted by Faceman
1. On opposite sides of the jungle...

2. They have been told that the other person is their enemy...

3. Standard gear

Alrighty... i actually think punisher has 3 or 4 wins, but i give the majority to cyke, he's incredibly underrated as a tactician (even fury referred to him as a, and i quote, 'master strategist'😉.