Originally posted by Sado22
okay lets come to an agreement here:
-shin_remy is a fanboy and all of his posts reek of SF fanboyism.
~Sado
ooh please sado
you are here a few months, i am here more the a year, i see the same threads coming and coming, and it got worser here since many fanboy's have shown up. PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!
you think you are smart. sorry, other debaters like emperor ashter, superboy prime, darkstorm zero, brainchild etc etc, they are smart.
newbies are not willing to accept the differences between power lvl's here. and that's why i am not here on the forum.
yesterday when i came here to look. omg!! fanboyism showed up. a lot. that's why i posted.
it is not fun debating anymore
Well, if the shoe fits...... 😎 I'm with Shin_Remy on this, there's been a recent influx of n00bs making crap threads like this one and frankly, they're lowering the overall quality of this section. Sam, you and I are hopefully in what Remy refered to as smart debaters, in that we try to win by logic and citing examples, etc. Sado is usually funny, but the evidence he cites is spotty and not to be relied on. And comparing Tekken to SF is pure fanboyism. Tekken cannot beat SF without a serious handicap on most SF characters. SF's top tier is untouchable by Tekken regardless. I'm getting tired of these repedative and biased threads polluting this part of the board. Which is why I've been in comics more often nowadays.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Well, if the shoe fits...... 😎 I'm with Shin_Remy on this, there's been a recent influx of n00bs making crap threads like this one and frankly, they're lowering the overall quality of this section. Sam, you and I are hopefully in what Remy refered to as smart debaters, in that we try to win by logic and citing examples, etc. Sado is usually funny, but the evidence he cites is spotty and not to be relied on. And comparing Tekken to SF is pure fanboyism. Tekken cannot beat SF without a serious handicap on most SF characters. SF's top tier is untouchable by Tekken regardless. I'm getting tired of these repedative and biased threads polluting this part of the board. Which is why I've been in comics more often nowadays.
I don't think Shin was refering to me when he said smart debator because he hates me 😛
I actually say Mr. B wins this but I disagree that noone from tekken can beat any SF character. There are lots of "second-rate" tekken fighters that have way more impressive feats than lots SF guys. See, being a 2d game and having fireballs is not always a determine factor.
Originally posted by Remulous
Tekken can't beat SF but Tekken's top teir can beat be SF's lower teir and some characters in mid teir. The problem is that most of Tekken's cast are just normal humans who are skilled martial artist. I know a few real people that can beat a large lump some of the Tekkens cast.
Name 1.
Even Kengoroo in tekken can break a foot thik metal door.
And noone there is just normal human, not even Xiaou.
ooh please sado
you are here a few months, i am here more the a year, i see the same threads coming and coming, and it got worser here since many fanboy's have shown up. PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!
Well, if the shoe fits...... I'm with Shin_Remy on this, there's been a recent influx of n00bs making crap threads like this one and frankly, they're lowering the overall quality of this section. Sam, you and I are hopefully in what Remy refered to as smart debaters, in that we try to win by logic and citing examples, etc. Sado is usually funny, but the evidence he cites is spotty and not to be relied on. And comparing Tekken to SF is pure fanboyism. Tekken cannot beat SF without a serious handicap on most SF characters. SF's top tier is untouchable by Tekken regardless. I'm getting tired of these repedative and biased threads polluting this part of the board. Which is why I've been in comics more often nowadays.
I don't think Shin was refering to me when he said smart debator because he hates me
I actually say Mr. B wins this but I disagree that noone from tekken can beat any SF character. There are lots of "second-rate" tekken fighters that have way more impressive feats than lots SF guys. See, being a 2d game and having fireballs is not always a determine factor.
Tekken can't beat SF but Tekken's top teir can beat be SF's lower teir and some characters in mid teir. The problem is that most of Tekken's cast are just normal humans who are skilled martial artist. I know a few real people that can beat a large lump some of the Tekkens cast.
oh and when the hell did shin_remy decide who is smart around here anyway. the day he cuts his fanboyism, i might at least consider glancing at his oneliners again. all his posts thus far have been baseless, fanboyish, oneliners and he goes around judging who's smart around here. that's f'ed up!
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22Before calling me SF fan you should really look at my signiture at least. I DO love SF and I've been playing since I was 7 I think, but I'm more tekken fan than SF fan. As for fireballs. Tekken is the whole different universe, and I don't think that throwing projectiles determine anything, I think that in Tekken universe one simply CAN'T train to be able to shoot fireballs. No matter what a great fighter you are in tekken you can't fire projectiles, while in SF even crappy (comparing to some other guys) fighter can do that. And that alone doesn't mean sh!t. And doesn't mean that the fighters themselvs are on different level. And I bet Kazuya's lighning uppercought is harder than any fireball of second rate SF fighters.
the man has spoken. most likely you SF fans think that fireballs will be a decisive factors.....against people who took out flying OGres, dragon breathing monsters, teleporters and eyebeam shooting, forest wrecking devils with their barehands.
Before calling me SF fan you should really look at my signiture at least. I DO love SF and I've been playing since I was 7 I think, but I'm more tekken fan than SF fan. As for fireballs. Tekken is the whole different universe, and I don't think that throwing projectiles determine anything, I think that in Tekken universe one simply CAN'T train to be able to shoot fireballs. No matter what a great fighter you are in tekken you can't fire projectiles, while in SF even crappy (comparing to some other guys) fighter can do that. And that alone doesn't mean sh!t. And doesn't mean that the fighters themselvs are on different level. And I bet Kazuya's lighning uppercought is harder than any fireball of second rate SF fighters.
And one more thing. Paul never beat Jin.
As for Jin and Paul.
Paul was the winner of T3. he canonwise "remained undefeated throughout the tournament and was even victorious against Ogre". Jin was in the tournament. hwoarang was one of the runner ups since he was defeated by Jin (hwoarang ending). that means that Jin advanced to the semis, since if my memory serves me right, Hwoarang was 2 runner up. Paul beat Jin, then Hachi (hachi was the final stage guy since the tZ was placed as the reward again and he as the host would face the one who won the semi as has always been the tradition in Tekkn). Paul beat him too and then beat Ogre (real final). when he won he left and the tournament contd. Jin earned the right to face Ogre on default since he was runner up and that is canonwise EXACTLY waht he did.
so there you go. all canon stuff, provided my memory serves me correct.
~Sado
Originally posted by Sam ZDude there are guy skilled in Ninjutsu who can kill with one attack no matter where they hit you at. You could die from a blow to the foot from one of those guys, that shit is the real deal. you mean to tell me that Baek Doo San is extra human. What about Bruce, Edddie, and alot of the others? They seem extra human to you?
Name 1.
Even Kengoroo in tekken can break a foot thik metal door.
And noone there is just normal human, not even Xiaou.
Originally posted by Sado22
sam, dude, i wasn't talking to you. i said "you SF fans" meaning tricksters and shi_remy. i meant "the SF Fans" but typed you by mistake.
i actually refered to YOU here as "the man"🙂
Originally posted by Sado22
As for Jin and Paul.
Paul was the winner of T3. he canonwise "remained undefeated throughout the tournament and was even victorious against Ogre". Jin was in the tournament. hwoarang was one of the runner ups since he was defeated by Jin (hwoarang ending). that means that Jin advanced to the semis, since if my memory serves me right, Hwoarang was 2 runner up. Paul beat Jin, then Hachi (hachi was the final stage guy since the tZ was placed as the reward again and he as the host would face the one who won the semi as has always been the tradition in Tekkn). Paul beat him too and then beat Ogre (real final). when he won he left and the tournament contd. Jin earned the right to face Ogre on default since he was runner up and that is canonwise EXACTLY waht he did.
so there you go. all canon stuff, provided my memory serves me correct.
~Sado
Bud, Hwoarang never lost to Jin, Jin never lost to Paul, neither did Heihachi. Just because before fighting Ogre you had to face Hachiin ARCADE MODE it doesn't mean it happened in the story. Heihachi hasn't even participated in the tournament (he can affort that since he was the one who held it) untill the moment where he shot Jin in the head. Paul faced Ogre and defeated him but he simply hadn't to face Jin. He left and remained undefeated.
I can bet anything that Jin was never beaten by Paul and the only two persons Heihachi was ever defeated by were Jin and Kazuya.
And I still believe that it was Jun who beat The Devil that left Kazuya after Heihachi defeated him and threw into volcano.
Originally posted by Remulous
Dude there are guy skilled in Ninjutsu who can kill with one attack no matter where they hit you at. You could die from a blow to the foot from one of those guys, that shit is the real deal. you mean to tell me that Baek Doo San is extra human. What about Bruce, Edddie, and alot of the others? They seem extra human to you?
Hell yeah concidering that they can break through brick walls with minimum efforts and have all those lightning attacks, they are not ordinary humans. And I yet want to see a guy who can kill me buy hitting me in the leg. And I wanna see him somewhere but my TV.
C'mone, weakest tekken chars do something a real person could only dream of. Like jumping 30 feet straight up, or sending someone fly 30 feet up with a kick, or jumping from a 300 feet (or even higher) tower just for laughs.
Originally posted by Remulous
The Ninjutsu guys are out there so be careful. The point I'm trying to make is that the things that SOME of the best Tekken characters do, weaker 2d fighters do with ease
Why does it always have to be 2d game to have a more powerfull chars?
Asuka (obvously not the best tekken char) punched Jin so hard that he flew 40 feet away THROUGH a huge boulder, that's an impressive strength feat SF girls yet have to demonstrate.
But I'll watch for the ninutsu guys. 😄
I'm pretty sure Heihachi did defeat Devil. When you look at it logically, why would he toss Kazuya in a volcano ? Even Neihachi wouldn't do that just for no reason - it was to stop Devil. That would make a lot of sense. Once Heihachi defeated Kazuya and Devil and killed him, Devil fled the destroyed body and attempted to possessed Jin in Jun's womb.
For some minor back-up on this, that ending is called "A Son's Fall" If you beat Tekken 3 with Heihachi, you get "A Grandson's Fall" where Heihachi has taken Jin on his helicopter after Jin is apparently defeated or seriously hurt by Ogre but once his Devil markings start appearing, he tosses him out of the helicopter.
sado, you are a idiot
same over the same useless topic.
Sado,i love SF. and i will always defend it. everybody knows that. But it are people like you why i am not on the forum. HELL even SAm Z is smarter then you!! He defends Tekken like i do with SF.
you don't know the differences in power lvl's
and you are still a newbie for me, destroying this forum.
remulous made a bad name for himself when he showed up here. but he listed to older members. now he don't post crap like yourself.
wtf you say that Heiachi can win from SF2 Bison. OOH Pleaseeee. no matter what version you use. he will rape Heiachi.
Don't forget, he destroyed the world in the SVC Comic. even it is uncanon.
and i don't think that sf wins cause they can shoot firevalls. no they have far more impressive feats. uncanon and canon. and yes there are also tekken fighters who can beat sf fighters.