Street Fighter vs DOA

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Originally posted by Major Snafu
Unless they were using ki, ninpo or a weapon in the fighting game, it is [B]banned. And CINEMATIC SCENES DO NOT COUNT. [/B]

Now you are not being fair. Cutscenes should matter because they are pretty much the only things that show character feats, and what happens in gameplay isn't always accurate. For instance, Tina being able to beat Ryu or ALPHA-152 is downright impossible, and all cutscenes in DOA show characters' strength and powers. Ryu was shown slicing through metal in DOA4 and easily obliterating an aircraft.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Now you are not being fair. Cutscenes should matter because they are pretty much the only things that show character feats, and what happens in gameplay isn't always accurate. For instance, Tina being able to beat Ryu or ALPHA-152 is downright impossible, and all cutscenes in DOA show characters' strength and powers. Ryu was shown slicing through metal in DOA4 and easily obliterating an aircraft.

Actually, I am being fair, because in actual gameplay, the ninjas don't use ninpo or their weapons. If I wanted to be unfair, then I'd have half the Capcom roster on DOA. I'fe already made it fair enough by decreasing the number of Street Fighters to match the numbers from the DOA series.

I've also checked out Ayane's DOA4 Ending. It took Ayane at least 25 seconds to charge and execute her ninpo attack on the DOATEC guards. I'll admit that it is indeed destructive, but the attack simply takes too long to charge up, giving her opponent more than enough time to retaliate.

I think it would be more of a challenge if you included all of the cast of Street Fighter, and make DOA characters use weapons if needed. Now both sides have their advantages, and there are 25 total characters in DOA last time I checked.

Ayane will not take that time to destroy an entire area. She'll be doing less devastating attacks on her opponents, and the attack took 18 seconds to do leaving out the slow motion.

Originally posted by Remulous
Hayabusa has hardly done any of that in DOA. Who the hell has Hayabusa beaten with his bare hands?The bottom line is the fighting game versions of Ryu will beat the fighting game versions of Hayabusa.

That was DOA I mentioned, not ninja gaiden.

It's like this...

In Hand to Hand combat, Street Fighters win.

In a battle to the death, Dead or Alive characters would win.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
It's like this...

In Hand to Hand combat, Street Fighters win.

In a battle to the death, Dead or Alive characters would win.

You mean the ninjas would win the battle to the death. That doesn't mean that some of the Street Fighters woudn't mind killing their opponents. And there are plenty from the SF roster.

Were this a battle to the death, I would have used the Mortal Kombat roster instead. It would have been amusing to see Shao Kahn smack the DOA people around with his big-ass hammer.

Originally posted by Major Snafu
And there are plenty from the SF roster.

How many of them are a threat, really?

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
It's like this...

In Hand to Hand combat, Street Fighters win.

In a battle to the death, Dead or Alive characters would win.

If you made it a battle to the death, that would mean all characters would be willing to kill, making the SF *not* hold back.

Holding back or not 3/4 of SF's cast is cannon fodder. Only when Gouki, Gill, Bison, Sagat & the like join the fight will things get sour for DOA.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Dead or Alive's powerhouses

Omega: http://youtube.com/watch?v=DJz8ljXRaGk, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_or_Alive_3

ALPHA-152: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lT7wjjQ3obo

Raidou: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xza9nOWOpsI

Hayate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kltInKmz0GY&mode=related&search

Ayane: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5eL_KR64MDw

Ryu: http://youtube.com/watch?v=suBFY39P4Ps

Tengu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengu_%28Dead_or_Alive%29

Spartan-458: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_%28Dead_or_Alive%29

Bayman: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SuiqOWWat6g

This shows more of Ayane's attack on DOATEC: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cmp3eXQ7fkE

Also, Spartan-458 is pretty much like Master Chief.


I still think that in a battle to the death, DOA characters win.

I want to see the best Street Fighters can do that would give DOA characters a good challenge.

No One in DOA can beat Gouki, Bison, Ryu, Ryu after training with Oro, Oro, Gill, Urien, or Twelve. And the DOA ninjas are the only characters that pose even the slightest threat. Shin Gouki, Gill and Bison can pretty much destroy the entire DOA cast on their own.

Originally posted by Remulous
No One in DOA can beat Gouki, Bison, Ryu, Ryu after training with Oro, Oro, Gill, Urien, or Twelve. And the DOA ninjas are the only characters that pose even the slightest threat. Shin Gouki, Gill and Bison can pretty much destroy the entire DOA cast on their own.

I'm assuming you did not see any of videos I just posted.

Originally posted by Remulous
No One in DOA can beat Gouki, Bison, Ryu, Ryu after training with Oro, Oro, Gill, Urien, or Twelve. And the DOA ninjas are the only characters that pose even the slightest threat. Shin Gouki, Gill and Bison can pretty much destroy the entire DOA cast on their own.

Could the ninjas withstand Gill's Seraphic Wing or Meteor Storm? Or how about Urien's Tyrant Slaughter or the cheap-ass Aegis Reflector corner combo?

Oro fights with one hand tied behind his back because should he uses both hands, he could kill his opponent. Gen is a trained assassin with a deathwish.

And everybody knows Bison's track record, not to mention that Bison's Ler Drit style combined with his Psycho Power is indeed dangerous.

Vega is a sadistic freak who would love nothing more than to slice Kasumi and Ayane into ribbons. Sagat already killed Go Hibiki in a match. And Bison has Juli, Juni and Cammy on his side, and all three have killed before.

Raidou managed to steal the Sky Torn Blast, but what good will that move will be against the Raging Demon, or the Kongou Kokuretsuzan and Misogi?

I have to second what Remulous said. The four ninjas are the only credible threat on the DOA roster because Itagaki wanted them to be dangerous.

More than likely, if Team Ninja attacked Gill, he just uses the Seraphic Wing to deal massive damage on all of them.

Could the ninjas withstand Gill's Seraphic Wing or Meteor Storm? Or how about Urien's Tyrant Slaughter or the cheap-ass Aegis Reflector corner combo?

Ryu's invulnerable while executing Karma techniques, and depending on the radius of those attacks, they can simply teleport out of harm's way. I don't see any of the Street Fighters posing a threat against the True Dragon Sword or the DDB for that matter.

Oro fights with one hand tied behind his back because should he uses both hands, he could kill his opponent. Gen is a trained assassin with a deathwish.

I find it very easy for Ryu to kill any opponent from SF.

And everybody knows Bison's track record, not to mention that Bison's Ler Drit style combined with his Psycho Power is indeed dangerous.

Omega is said to have unprecedented capabilities. He can create shockwaves, shoot energy blasts out from his body, shoot flames at his opponents, and has a double-edged energy saber. ALPHA-152 is a pretty fierce opponent since she is the most powerful creation of DOATEC.

Vega is a sadistic freak who would love nothing more than to slice Kasumi and Ayane into ribbons. Sagat already killed Go Hibiki in a match. And Bison has Juli, Juni and Cammy on his side, and all three have killed before.

I don't see Vega posing a threat to either Ryu, Hayate, ALPHA-152, Genra, Omega, or Spartan-468.

Raidou managed to steal the Sky Torn Blast, but what good will that move will be against the Raging Demon, or the Superchop (both Third Strike and CvSNK2 version).

What about Ryu's Karma techniques? Also, I don't see any of the Street Fighters surviving once Ryu summons a soul of a Black Dragon to come and kill them.

I have to second what Remulous said. The four ninjas are the only credible threat on the DOA roster because Itagaki wanted them to be dangerous.

No, that's wrong.

More than likely, if Team Ninja attacked Gill, he just uses the Seraphic Wing to deal massive damage on all of them.

Inazuma would severely injure just about anyone from SF. Also, Ayane's attack, while it takes time, can still be executed as long as some of the Street Fighters are distracted. i.e., ALPHA-152 attacking everyone at the same time. That's just how fast she is. With the DDB, Ryu could create magical shurikens out of thin air and send them at the cast of SF. Omega's shockwaves, etc. So, Ayane's attack can deal massive damage as the Seraphic Wing can. Anyway, I see DOA having a bigger chance of winning in a deathmatch.

Nice that you brought Nicole into the fight. I had forgotten the DOA cast had a Spartan II amongst them.

Gouki especialy Shin Gouki will kill anyone in DOA even Hayabusa and he could have all his swords, projectiles, and Nimpo and a 2 handed Oro is just as deadly if not more deadly. Let's not forget about characters like Vega, Balrog, Sagat and Zangeif. They as well can take any DOA character up until the ninjas and Sagat can take the ninjas out as well.

Gouki especialy Shin Gouki will kill anyone in DOA even Hayabusa and he could have all his swords, projectiles, and Nimpo and a 2 handed Oro is just as deadly if not more deadly.

Wow...no...

Let's not forget about characters like Vega, Balrog, Sagat and Zangeif. They as well can take any DOA character up until the ninjas and Sagat can take the ninjas out as well.

Do you know how easy it is for Ryu to kill any of the characters you just mentioned?

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Holding back or not 3/4 of SF's cast is cannon fodder. Only when Gouki, Gill, Bison, Sagat & the like join the fight will things get sour for DOA.
Alot of the cast is very powerful and can take on plenty of DOA without fancy karma techniques. 😬 In these debates it's usually top tier vs. top tier.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Wow...no...
Wow...Hell yeah...

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Do you know how easy it is for Ryu to kill any of the characters you just mentioned?
Yes, that's why I said' "up until the ninjas". And Do you know how easy it is for the chracters I previously mentioned to kill any character from DOA, EXEPT THE NINJAS. Sagat can take the ninjas. Ken could take down alot of DOA too, but not much of DOA can take him down.