Street Fighter vs DOA

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Alot of the cast is very powerful and can take on plenty of DOA without fancy karma techniques. 😬 In these debates it's usually top tier vs. top tier.

Originally posted by Remulous
Wow...Hell yeah...

Originally posted by Remulous
Yes, that's why I said' "up until the ninjas". And Do you know how easy it is for the chracters I previously mentioned to kill any character from DOA, EXEPT THE NINJAS.

Originally posted by Remulous
Sagat can take the ninjas.

Originally posted by Remulous
Ken could take down alot of DOA too, but not much of DOA can take him down.

Raidou is no match for Akuma.

Sure he can copy techniques, he sexually assaulted Ayame, stole the Sky Torn Blast and maimed Hayate, but against Akuma, who mastered the Instant Hell Murder, the Misogi (Shinto Purification Ceremony), the Kongou Kokuretsu Zan (Continent-Destroying Vajra Slash) and possibly every deadly move in the Ansatsuken handbook, Raidou, as Vince McMahon would say, have no chance in hell against Akuma.

That and Raidou would have a bit of a problem in trying to copy Akumas's techniques.

According to Capcom, the I.H.M. is a technique that places the user's life in jeopardy, though it can kill one's opponent instantly. Also, during said move, the martial artist drags his victim to the Netherealm (Hell) where their bodies are both burned and simultaneously attacked by demons. The ferocity with which these demons attack depends on the amount of negative karma an individual has accrued over their lifetime.

As Akuma states in his Alpha 3 ending, "It is not my fist, but your past sins that will kill you..."

Ayane will be pissed at Akuma for killing Raidou (although Kasumi had already done that already) and will go after him. Ayane's disadvantage is her youth. Akuma has been fighting as long as Raidou.

Sure Ayane can give Akuma a run for his money, but she is outmatched and outclassed.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
No, you just proved you know next to nothing about Ryu.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
I really suggest that you check the links I posted on the other page..

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
So, Sagat can't be cut by a sword?

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Ein is a genetically enhanced superhuman who's also a master of Karate. He can also execute the Torn Sky Blast. He could kick Ken's ass.

Watching the DOA Ultimate intro just gave me a sick thought.

Akuma takes on both Hayate and Ayane in a handicap battle. With Akuma's skill and power, Hayate and Ayane would wish they would be fighting Raidou. Akuma shows them why he is the 'Master of the Fists.'

The Torn Sky Blast vs the Messatsu Gouhadou...and everything else in between

I agree with Ken beating Ein's ass, but lets be fair that is not Hayate at his best. We're talking about a guy with amnesia and karate moves. Nothing really intimidating about that...although his blows are a bit too powerful even by DOA standards. Ken could take Ein out anyday of the week if you ask me...however Haya, Kasumi, Ayane are a whole other story.

Originally posted by Major Snafu
Raidou is no match for Akuma.

Sure he can copy techniques, he sexually assaulted Ayame, stole the Sky Torn Blast and maimed Hayate, but against Akuma, who mastered the Instant Hell Murder, the Misogi (Shinto Purification Ceremony), the Kongou Kokuretsu Zan (Continent-Destroying Vajra Slash) and possibly every deadly move in the Ansatsuken handbook, Raidou, as Vince McMahon would say, have no chance in hell against Akuma.

That and Raidou would have a bit of a problem in trying to copy Akumas's techniques.

According to Capcom, the I.H.M. is a technique that places the user's life in jeopardy, though it can kill one's opponent instantly. Also, during said move, the martial artist drags his victim to the Netherealm (Hell) where their bodies are both burned and simultaneously attacked by demons. The ferocity with which these demons attack depends on the amount of negative karma an individual has accrued over their lifetime.

As Akuma states in his Alpha 3 ending, "It is not my fist, but your past sins that will kill you..."

Ayane will be pissed at Akuma for killing Raidou (although Kasumi had already done that already) and will go after him. Ayane's disadvantage is her youth. Akuma has been fighting as long as Raidou.

Sure Ayane can give Akuma a run for his money, but she is outmatched and outclassed.

As for the sin thing, opponents such as ALPHA-152 to not bear any sins. Ryu and Hayate, as well other characters from DOA are good as opposed to being evil.

Also, you forgot about other the fierce opponents of DOA. Ryu with the Dark Dragon Blade can summon a Black Dragon soul to kill just about anyone from the other team. That, or he could use the True Dragon Sword, which is a more dangerous weapon.

Originally posted by Remulous
Right and it's obvious to see that you know nearly nothinhg about SF period, not like that's a bad thing, it's just a game after all.

Originally posted by Remulous
I've seen them and I know what DOA is capable of, I own nearly every DOA.

Originally posted by Remulous
So DOA characters can't be hurt by Tiger Shots, Blows, Knees, and Uppercuts?

Originally posted by Remulous
The Shoryuken nearly sliced Sagat in 2, the Tiger Uppercut was made to rival that. Just as sharp as a sword.

Originally posted by Remulous
Ken does not have to be genetically enhanced, he is already superhuman from intense training and is a master of Anasatsuken or Shotokan and the Shoryuken. He can also execute the Shoryureppa, Shippu Jinrai Kyaku and the...SHINRYUKEN!!! He will kick Ein's ass and damn near everyone elses too.

Originally posted by Major Snafu
Watching the DOA Ultimate intro just gave me a sick thought.

Akuma takes on both Hayate and Ayane in a handicap battle. With Akuma's skill and power, Hayate and Ayane would wish they would be fighting Raidou. Akuma shows them why he is the 'Master of the Fists.'

The Torn Sky Blast vs the Messatsu Gouhadou...and everything else in between

Why is it that you're putting the strongest character from SF up against two opponents who aren't even close to as powerful as Ryu or ALPHA-152 is? If Ryu can defeat Murai and hold his own against the Vigoor Emperor, if you even know what kind of opponents these are, I really don't see Akuma as much of a threat.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Hayate and Ayane are much less powerful at the start of DOA then they are by the start of DOA4. In between that time, Hayate was experimented on and made into a superhuman. It took Ayane by the time of DOA3 to defeat Omega, and she's presumably stronger in DOA4.

Why is it that you're putting the strongest character from SF up against two opponents who aren't even close to as powerful as Ryu or ALPHA-152 is? If Ryu can defeat Murai and hold his own against the Vigoor Emperor, if you even know what kind of opponents these are, I really don't see Akuma as much of a threat.

You misunderstood me. I didn't say nothing about Akuma fighting Hayate and Ayane at their weakest. I'm talking about Akuma at his strongest and the two ninjas at their strongest. You said it that Hayate was now a superman and Ayane won the DOA3 tournament, so either way, they may stand a chance against Akuma, they may not.

As I've mentioned before, their youth puts them at a serious disafvantage. Sure they've been trained since birth, but they lack fighting experience needed to defeat someone like Akuma.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
No. Before I make posts, I do some research on the other side so that I don't say any information that's false.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
It's not like I said someone from DOA will kill anyone from SF.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
You do not know that much of Dead of Alive, apparently. I have a lot of Street Fighters that aren't remakes of one another.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
You were putting Sagat up against the ninjas, who are armed with swords and two of them have APFSDS weaponry. They are so fast, that bullets fail to touch them. I really don't think Sagat would have anything on them.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
I guess you're assuming that they're going to stand there and let Sagat hit them.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
You know Ein/Hayate can just appear behind Ken and swipe off Ken's head with a sword.

Originally posted by Remulous
I don't need to do research, I play DOA just as much as SF, none of the info I have stated is false any one who has played DOA 1, 2, 3, or 4 knows that DOA wont win only the ninjas stand a chance. Cause you know It's not true but the SF bosses can kill anyone in DOA. Gouki will kill any one in DOA or Ninja Gaiden.

If you say so dude. If Ignoring the powers of the SFs shows you know alot about SF then you are indeed the master of SF knowledge.

Vega's got a claw and he is basicly a ninja bull fighter yet Sagat can kick his ass so weapons aren't much of a threat, he can dodge them just like he dodges punches or kicks. Ryu has the ability to dodge bullets and Sagat is his equal, possibly greater. Where do people get this idea that being a DOA ninja makes you faster than theSFs geuss the SF ninjas must really suck?

What?! And I guess you're assuming that Sagat's going to stand there and let them slice the hell out of him.[/

Right. Ken will appear behind Ein/Hayate and Shinryuken him and even the Shinryuken would be over kill. Even if he does get behind the Shinryuken will still destroy him.

I distinctly remember saying that unless the weapons are in-game and not in a cinema sequence, then the weapons are banned.

You still give The ninjas an unfair advantage,

Originally posted by Kadesh
You still give The ninjas an unfair advantage,

No I didn't. The ninjas (as well as the other DOA members) still fave to deal with Sagat, Bison, Akuma, Gen and everyone else who has killed or maimed on the Street Fighter roster.

So are you implying that because the ninjas use weapons they automatically win? SF fighters are hand to hand, Are you seriously overrating DOA?

Originally posted by Kadesh
So are you implying that because the ninjas use weapons they automatically win? SF fighters are hand to hand, Are you seriously overrating DOA?

No. If I wanted weapons, I would have stuck in Capcom characters that are not in the Street Fighter series. I'm not overrating nothing. I'm simplying being fair about the whole situation.

The DOA characters can fight without weapons, as seen during the in-game play. I'll admit several of the SFers (Sodim, Rolento, Vega) use weapons, but I only allowed it because theu actually use them during in-game play.

I'm not taking no sides, I'm just stating my honest opinion on certain issues and that is all. I've already lowered the numbers of the Street Fighters so that it can match the numbers from DOA.

Originally posted by Major Snafu
No. If I wanted weapons, I would have stuck in Capcom characters that [B]are not in the Street Fighter series. I'm not overrating nothing. I'm simplying being fair about the whole situation.

The DOA characters can fight without weapons, as seen during the in-game play. I'll admit several of the SFers (Sodim, Rolento, Vega) use weapons, but I only allowed it because theu actually use them during in-game play.

I'm not taking no sides, I'm just stating my honest opinion on certain issues and that is all. I've already lowered the numbers of the Street Fighters so that it can match the numbers from DOA. [/B]

Originally posted by Remulous
Why not just exclude the characyers that use weapons? SF has enough characters so that they can be replaced in this battle with characters that don't use weapons.

There's only three men who uses weapons on the SF roster: Sodom, Rolento, and Vega. I can drop Sodom, but not Rolento nor Vega.

Originally posted by Major Snafu
You misunderstood me. I didn't say nothing about Akuma fighting Hayate and Ayane at their weakest. I'm talking about Akuma at his strongest and the two ninjas at their strongest. You said it that Hayate was now a superman and Ayane won the DOA3 tournament, so either way, they may stand a chance against Akuma, they may not.

As I've mentioned before, their youth puts them at a serious disafvantage. Sure they've been trained since birth, but they lack fighting experience needed to defeat someone like Akuma.

Chances are he's learned so many techniques after traveling abroad, that he would be more of a challenge than anyone else from the DOA cast.