Darkseid

Started by darthgoober27 pages

Originally posted by Desaad
In regards to Anti-Moniter, it was said that with every matter universe that he destroyed, he was becoming more and more powerful (with the Moniter becoming weaker and weaker).

This would imply that he was drawing power from the nature of the universes themselves, not that he was at some static power level.

Which would essentially imply that he was a multiversal anti-matter abstract, I would think.

I think part of the problem we are having is that its hard to guage what "multiversal" is, or at least what our individual definitions of the term are.


Oh his power WAS increasing, but not in the way that nvr's trying to say. His power increased as his universe became stronger, but not at an exponential rate or anything like that. He hit his "Peak" of power right after he absorbed the Antimatter universe, so he never had the outright power of a multiverse(and is thus not multiversal).

Besides, the "Universe" that he absorbed was simply a fraction of a single universe. Therefor, even though the universe he absorbed was strengthened, it never actually had more power in it than a "regular" universe.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
HUH?
Hold that thought...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your saying i'm lying but you have no proof at all to support your theory that he didn't gain the power of each universe he destroyed. NO proof at all. to the contrary, his further powering up after each universe dies lends credence to my statement that he got the power of each universe. Supergirl hurt his containment suit and had to have a good showing. She was going to die. Similiar to konner being able to fight SBP for a little while. have to have a good shwoing when your about to die. Calling me a lyer wont' make what your saying the truth. becuz it's not.

Ok, if your not lying find a SINGLE scan that says that he absorbed those other universe's. In fact, just come up with a book number and I'll post it myself(like I said, I have the entire series).

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh his power WAS increasing, but not in the way that nvr's trying to say. His power increased as his universe became stronger, but not at an exponential rate or anything like that. He hit his "Peak" of power right after he absorbed the Antimatter universe, so he never had the outright power of a multiverse(and is thus not multiversal).

Besides, the "Universe" that he absorbed was simply a fraction of a single universe. Therefor, even though the universe he absorbed was strengthened, it never actually had more power in it than a "regular" universe.

What is the power of a regular universe? the 616? becuz even marvel is a multiverse. With many splits in it's multiversal time line. YOu dont' know how much power he had, So why are you trying to say something with no absolute proof. We do knwo that he was more powerful than one single universe. Multiversal. He had the power of the Antimatter universe already, and was gaining power with each universe that died. So he already was universal when the AM universe died. Power of more than one universe. Multiversal.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your saying i'm lying but you have no proof at all to support your theory that he didn't gain the power of each universe he destroyed. NO proof at all. to the contrary, his further powering up after each universe dies lends credence to my statement that he got the power of each universe. Supergirl hurt his containment suit and had to have a good showing. She was going to die. Similiar to konner being able to fight SBP for a little while. have to have a good shwoing when your about to die. Calling me a lyer wont' make what your saying the truth. becuz it's not.

Darthgoober, didn't you right like a several pages of scans prooving this?

He's approximately Thanos level.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Darthgoober, didn't you right like a several pages of scans prooving this?

I have the story. No need. I know what i'm talking about.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I have the story. No need. I know what i'm talking about.

givin how what you say contradicts the book itself, I think not.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It wasn't the OE. It was the Omega Beams. They are diffent. Check up on it. Get to know the character.

It was the OE.

Originally posted by Soljer
He's approximately Thanos level.

Of course you know your not bothering me. YOu can irk me for real by proving me wrong. Show me thanos doing things that DS has done and i'll be upset for real. Until then, I just think your some kid acting like a jerk cuz you think your bothering me. But your failing at your attempt. very very badly. As i eat this wonderfully calming strawberry icecream.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What is the power of a regular universe? the 616? becuz even marvel is a multiverse. With many splits in it's multiversal time line. YOu dont' know how much power he had, So why are you trying to say something with no absolute proof. We do knwo that he was more powerful than one single universe. Multiversal. He had the power of the Antimatter universe already, and was gaining power with each universe that died. So he already was universal when the AM universe died. Power of more than one universe. Multiversal.

Wrong again. He didn't already have all the power of the Anti Matter Universe, otherwise he wouldn't have had to absorb it. So all we know is that at the height of his power, he had all of the power of a SINGLE universe, that was ALMOST as powerful as a "regular" one. And even that wasn't enough for him to actually accomplish his goals, because when he got to the Dawn of Time, he had to absorb energy from those heroes to try to complete his plan. He used just about all of his energy just getting there.

And I do consider 616 a "Standard" universe, because unlike DC, Marvel has never stated that it was less powerful than it should be.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Of course you know your not bothering me. YOu can irk me for real by proving me wrong. Show me thanos doing things that DS has done and i'll be upset for real. Until then, I just think your some kid acting like a jerk cuz you think your bothering me. But your failing at your attempt. very very badly. As i eat this wonderfully calming strawberry icecream.

I'm not trying to bother anyone. I'm just stating the most accurate, concise answer to your initial question.

Originally posted by Soljer
He's approximately Thanos level.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok, if your not lying find a SINGLE scan that says that he absorbed those other universe's. In fact, just come up with a book number and I'll post it myself(like I said, I have the entire series).

So exactly why was he getting more powerful every single time a universe died? HMMM? I am not going to get into this with you when every one and thier mother with half a brain knows the AM was multiversal and gained the power of each universe that died. as a matter of fact, when he was completely depleted, he absorbed the power of ONE universe and powered himself back up some. This is stated that he absorbed that universe's power. and thank you for your support, I win. good night.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Of course you know your not bothering me. YOu can irk me for real by proving me wrong. Show me thanos doing things that DS has done and i'll be upset for real. Until then, I just think your some kid acting like a jerk cuz you think your bothering me. But your failing at your attempt. very very badly. As i eat this wonderfully calming strawberry icecream.

How about you show us DS doing something Thanos has done, like you know become god or something like that.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Darthgoober, didn't you right like a several pages of scans prooving this?

Yes I do, I'd just rather not have to go dig all that crap up. But I'm about ready to if he doesn't stop spouting bull sh*t.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
It was the OE.

THE OE is depicted with zig zagging lines that go around any barriers until the intended target is hit. It was the Omega Beams.

What thread did you post it in? I could dig it up for you.

Originally posted by King Kandy
What thread did you post it in? I could dig it up for you.

Multi Eternity vs Anti Monitor.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
After the Our Worlds at War storyline WW deflected the OE, and beat his ass...

Neither of the things you guys have said is true.

Darkseid didn't kill Wonder Woman with a backhand. He casually backhanded her, to such a degree that she bounced away and was stunned.

But it was the Grandmother Box that killed her, even as she killed it.

Wonder Woman has never actually defeated a full powered Darkseid. If you're talking about the issue right after OWAW, she never defeated him then. Her and the Amazons powered him up, and he nearly destroyed War World on his own.

In the Superman/Batman arc (first time she's deflected the Omegas) neither her nor Superman single handidly beat Darkseid. Superman had to get close to the sun to amp himself up to defeat Darkseid. Not too bad considering how powerful Loeb Superman is in general, and when he is closer to the sun specifically.

Wonder Woman blocking the beams isn't so bad, considering she likewise blocked an energy blast coming from the entire Greek Pantheon.