Originally posted by darthgoober
Wrong. It didn't get "Bigger". The scans I provided actually gave dimensions for it.Unfortunately for YOUR argument, Marvel has never said that the 616 universe is less than it's supposed to be. Your speculating and that just won't cut it. Now either provide actual proof, or walk away. You have the series right? So post something that contradicts what I've put forth. In fact I'll even help you out. Just give me the issue number and the page number, and I'll post it myself.
I don't have to post anything. Unfortunatly for your argument, DC never said that the original universe was a "standard" universe. All it said was that the resulting multiversal universes were " weaker" than the original. The actual burden of proof is on you to prove that this original universe was only a "standard" universeas opposed to a super Universe. the beyonders one universe was billions of times more poweful than the whole of the marvel multiverse. So what is making you think the original DC universe that got split wasn't somewhere along the lines of the beyonder's universe? There is no way to suggest that it wasn't unless DC stated the original universe was only a "standard" now prove it.
The Am's Univese most certainly got bigger or more powerful may be a better way to say it, every time a positive universe died. Thus He was already as powerful as a multiverse of Universes since the AM universe=to the Monitor's entire positve multiverse. Thanks for your time. I win. Now prove that the original universe was only a "standard" universe or back away.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Whoah! Tone down the arrogance there...Don't go all Masterbruce on us here.
I'm sorry. didn't want to go that route. But he certainly didn't own me when he actually provided me with the basis for my retort. I was trying to figure out how to beat his argument when he supplied me with the way to beat him. He wants me to prove something when he can't prove how powerful this first universe actually was.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Also, It's stupid to make us prove that the universe IS a "Standard", because we shouldn't assume it's a "Super Universe" unless otherwise stated.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Can you prove that in Galactus's true form, he isn't green? If not, then we should just assume he is?That's the same as asking us to prove it wasn't a "Super Universe".
You dont' know how powerful this original universe was. Period. To just assume it was a "standard" universe is silly considering a mulitiverse sprang from it. It is also silly to try and compare it to any marvel " standard" universe when marvel has split time lines that create a muliteverse as well.
One more thing, According to the panels, the AM's one Antimatter universe was as powerful as the entire multiverse of positive matter. and this Panel also says that the universe replicated from the original, not split, but replicated. DC had retconned they way the DCU multiverse came about many times. Next time lets find out which retcon is the latest.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I don't have to post anything. Unfortunatly for your argument, DC never said that the original universe was a "standard" universe. All it said was that the resulting multiversal universes were " weaker" than the original. The actual burden of proof is on you to prove that this original universe was only a "standard" universeas opposed to a super Universe. the beyonders one universe was billions of times more poweful than the whole of the marvel multiverse. So what is making you think the original DC universe that got split wasn't somewhere along the lines of the beyonder's universe? There is no way to suggest that it wasn't unless DC stated the original universe was only a "standard" now prove it.
DC NEVER said that the original universe was anything other than a universe. So it is speculation to assume that it was anything else. See YOUR the one that's claiming something outside the "Norm"(that the original universe was more powerful than a regular universe), so it's up to you to back that up.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl The Am's Univese most certainly got bigger or more powerful may be a better way to say it, every time a positive universe died. Thus He was already as powerful as a multiverse of Universes since the AM universe=to the Monitor's entire positve multiverse. [/B]
So I say again...
PROVE ME WRONG!
Originally posted by King Kandy
You're using horrible, horrible logic.If you can't prove that A isn't B, then A must be B.
That's the logic you're using.
No it's not. It works well in court and it is working well here. any way, The Multiverse, via retcon wasn't sprung up from weaker universe. They were replicated universes from the first one. The multiverse sprang from being replicated and the Anti-matter universe was born at the same time and was already equal to the entire multiverse. I win.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No it's not. It works well in court and it is working well here. any way, The Multiverse, via retcon wasn't sprung up from weaker universe. They were replicated universes from the first one. The multiverse sprang from being replicated and the Anti-matter universe was born at the same time and was already equal to the entire multiverse. I win.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Boy you sure like to twist things when your getting your ass kicked don't you? See the way this works goes like this....DC NEVER said that the original universe was anything other than a universe. So it is speculation to assume that it was anything else. See YOUR the one that's claiming something outside the "Norm"(that the original universe was more powerful than a regular universe), so it's up to you to back that up.
How can you stand being this wrong? First of all, more powerful IS the better way to say it. Second it wasn't as powerful as an entire multiverse, because their where still 5 universe's taking up space. So he NEVER had the power of the entire multiverse(even though it was fairly weak as far as multiverse's go).
So I say again...
PROVE ME WRONG!
You proved your self wrong. the very scans you put up say the Original universe replicated, not split, into the multiverse, and that the AM's universe was equal to the whole of the multiverse. Read it slowly, you'll figure it out. i'm going to get food.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No it's not. It works well in court and it is working well here. any way, The Multiverse, via retcon wasn't sprung up from weaker universe. They were replicated universes from the first one. The multiverse sprang from being replicated and the Anti-matter universe was born at the same time and was already equal to the entire multiverse. I win.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You proved your self wrong. the very scans you put up say the Original universe replicated, not split, into the multiverse, and that the AM's universe was equal to the whole of the multiverse. Read it slowly, you'll figure it out. i'm going to get food.