Ryu vs Ryu Hayabusa

Started by Xenogears8 pages

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Yo in all fairness to Ryu that punch Ayane did took a little minute to charge up.
Nope. I'll post the video of her ending. It actually took 5 to 6 seconds at most, and here's why:

The instant Ayane started doing the attack everything went in slow motion. This is obvious since the bullets passing by Hayate and Ayane are traveling very slowly. Up to the point where Hayate meets up with Ayane, everything ceases to move in slow motion. From that instant to the point of execution there was about 5 seconds in between. Ayane striking the ground also occurs in slow motion. Add the time within the slow motion sequences and the time turns out to be around five and a half seconds in total.YouTube video

Originally posted by Xenogears
Nope. I'll post the video of her ending. It actually took 5 to 6 seconds at most, and here's why:

The instant Ayane started doing the attack everything went in slow motion. This is obvious since the bullets passing by Hayate and Ayane are traveling very slowly. Up to the point where Hayate meets up with Ayane, everything ceases to move in slow motion. From that instant to the point of execution there was about 5 seconds in between. Ayane striking the ground also occurs in slow motion. Add the time within the slow motion sequences and the time turns out to be around five and a half seconds in total.YouTube video

I stand corrected. But even so 5 seconds is enough time for Ryu to react and stop that attack. Don't get me wrong I still think Hayabusa wins.
Ryu(SF) still can't beat Link tho. 😄

well actualy the sf alpha anime has CANON ABILITIES!!! capcom stated that that is the way how street fighters fight. and that was Alpha. Now think about street fighter 3 third strike!!!

The nimpo attacks are not that special compared to Ryu's.

His speed is not that special. only his teleport is special.

Strenght is Ryu's.

Ryu is simply winning from Hayabusa. People are bragging of Ryu these days and Hayabusa is overrated!!!Ryu even can't win from old heroes from SNK, that's really SAD people!!!

to my knowledge... ninjas dont teleport.. they use illusion techniques

as for this battle, Ryu is just outclassed by Hayabusa... as he uses a combo of martial arts, weapon combat expertise, technology and ninpo... ninjas are based on deception so I wouldnt expect a clean fight

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
as for this battle, Ryu is just outclassed by Hayabusa... as he uses a combo of martial arts, weapon combat expertise, technology and ninpo... ninjas are based on deception so I wouldnt expect a clean fight

why is hayabusa outmatched??

cause he uses combo's of a martial art? Ryu does the same. Ryu does it even faster.

if Hayabusa is allowed to use weapons then i say yes. Hayabusa wins

i don't think hayabusa is better then Ryu in h2h.

Ryu Hayabusa slices and dices Ryu SF but in a fist fight Ryu hayabusa is going to get pummeled.

Originally posted by shin_remy
why is hayabusa outmatched??

cause he uses combo's of a martial art? Ryu does the same. Ryu does it even faster.

if Hayabusa is allowed to use weapons then i say yes. Hayabusa wins

i don't think hayabusa is better then Ryu in h2h.

well he's not about to refrain from weapons just to make things fair for ryu... thats not what being ninja is about

ryu does not do the same.. as I said.. martial arts + weapon expertise + technology + ninpo = alot of things to be dodging.. his sword slice alone cleaved a fully armed chopper in two

Originally posted by Lazy MFer
Ryu Hayabusa slices and dices Ryu SF but in a fist fight Ryu hayabusa is going to get pummeled.

Wrong.

Ryu slices and dices Ryu, and in a fist fight he beats the crap out of him.

So far the only advantage I am willing to give Ryu over Hayabusa is strength.

Originally posted by shin_remy
well actualy the sf alpha anime has CANON ABILITIES!!! capcom stated that that is the way how street fighters fight. and that was Alpha. Now think about street fighter 3 third strike!!!

The nimpo attacks are not that special compared to Ryu's.

His speed is not that special. only his teleport is special.

Strenght is Ryu's.

Ryu is simply winning from Hayabusa. People are bragging of Ryu these days and Hayabusa is overrated!!!Ryu even can't win from old heroes from SNK, that's really SAD people!!!

The Alpha anime might represent what SFers can do without game restriction, but what they do in it is not as impressive as you guys are overhyping.

If anything the anime shows Ryu can be put on his back with a fist to the gut.

I said earlier that if people are going to claim 3rd Strike Ryu is 10/100/1000 times better than the Alpha version they should post feats backing those claims...so far we've gotten none.

Hayabusa's speed not being special? The guy is fast enough to dodge and deflect bullets from turrets in helicopters. He is fast enough to run on water and walls. Please.

Nimpo is far more versatile than Ryu's Hadou. It can grant Hayabusa invulnerability. It grants him control over Ice, Lightning and Fire. Hayabusa's Chi blasts are not to be underestimated either.

Fact of the matter is Hayabusa has too many options to take Ryu down, but I reckon it will not be an easy match. Ryu also has what it takes to put Hayabusa down, don't get me wrong.

This is essentially Superman(SF Ryu) vs. Surfer(Hayabusa). Superman has what it takes to beat Surfer. And Surfer has what it takes to beat Superman. The difference is Surfer has more options to put Superman down.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Wrong.

Ryu slices and dices Ryu, and in a fist fight he beats the crap out of him.

So far the only advantage I am willing to give Ryu over Hayabusa is strength.

I don't see things that way, in a fist fight the only thing I give Ryu Hayabusa is speed.

Ryu is stronger

has better fire power

and a higher defence level.

Originally posted by Lazy MFer
Ryu is stronger
Note this is actually Hayabusa's strongest incarnation as stated in the opening post. That means Fiend Ryu is being used. To be honest, I'm not sure whether or not Hayabusa has strength feats in the NES Ninja Gaiden, but in the Xbox version of the game, fiends are bestowed immense strength and durability by the Dark Dragon Blade including Hayabusa himself, and his strength was said to be extraordinary in his human form. I want to know Ryu's strength feats besides lifting boulders.

Originally posted by Lazy MFer
has better fire power
No, I don't think so. Hayabusa being able to destroy highly durable jet fighters with an attack that disintegrated a human just about instantly is more impressive than what Ryu has done, even in the anime.

Originally posted by Lazy MFer
and a higher defence level.
You mean to say that Ryu is more durable than Fiend Ryu? Bullshit.

Originally posted by Xenogears
Note this is actually Hayabusa's strongest incarnation as stated in the opening post. That means Fiend Ryu is being used. To be honest, I'm not sure whether or not Hayabusa has strength feats in the NES Ninja Gaiden, but in the Xbox version of the game, fiends are bestowed immense strength and durability by the Dark Dragon Blade including Hayabusa himself, and his strength was said to be extraordinary in his human form. I want to know Ryu's strength feats besides lifting boulders.

No, I don't think so. Hayabusa being able to destroy highly durable jet fighters with an attack that disintegrated a human just about instantly is more impressive than what Ryu has done, even in the anime.

You mean to say that Ryu is more durable than Fiend Ryu? Bullshit.

By fiend Ryu, you mean the blue skinned one right? Because I didn't see a difference in power between the 2. R.Hyabusa has no strength feats to save him in this match.

The jet fighters have fuel in them, highly explosive fuel and they were already equipped with missiles that are highly explosive as well. You can throw a sparkler in the fuel tank and destroy a jet fighter. Defacing 2 sides of a building with your basic special attack is a much greater feat, especially since the destruction even traveled thought the streets and allys bellow out side of the building. Ryu can also disintegrate opponents and his Hadoukens fire instantly, with no charge necessary.

Ryu was nearly blasted to death by Bison's Psycho Shots, survived attacks from Akuma and Sagat and Ryu got blasted with a Kamehameha sized blast at the end of the SFA movie, he was hurt but still standing and was charging his attack while in side the blast, the blast Ryu through was massive, far more massive then R.Hayabusa's Nimpo.

In a hand to hand fight, R.Haybusa will be taking home a loss. I kind of got the jist that we were using normal Ryu and normal R.Hayabusa but if you want to bring other forms in this, I say Evil Ryu sends R.Hayabusa to hell in a hand basket, via Instant Hell Murder.

Originally posted by Lazy MFer
By fiend Ryu, you mean the blue skinned one right? Because I didn't see a difference in power between the 2. R.Hyabusa has no strength feats to save him in this match.

The jet fighters have fuel in them, highly explosive fuel and they were already equipped with missiles that are highly explosive as well. You can throw a sparkler in the fuel tank and destroy a jet fighter. Defacing 2 sides of a building with your basic special attack is a much greater feat, especially since the destruction even traveled thought the streets and allys bellow out side of the building. Ryu can also disintegrate opponents and his Hadoukens fire instantly, with no charge necessary.

Ryu was nearly blasted to death by Bison's Psycho Shots, survived attacks from Akuma and Sagat and Ryu got blasted with a Kamehameha sized blast at the end of the SFA movie, he was hurt but still standing and was charging his attack while in side the blast, the blast Ryu through was massive, far more massive then R.Hayabusa's Nimpo.

In a hand to hand fight, R.Haybusa will be taking home a loss. I kind of got the jist that we were using normal Ryu and normal R.Hayabusa but if you want to bring other forms in this, I say Evil Ryu sends R.Hayabusa to hell in a hand basket, via Instant Hell Murder.

One the contrary, slicing fiends that have resistance against magma with a weakened Dragon Sword takes a load of strength my friend. That is proven in the dialogue between Hayabusa and Rachel, which pointed out that Hayabusa was much more powerful than a human, and that came only from his training. After having his fiendish form triggered, his strength was increased vastly by the Dark Dragon Blade. Regardless of that, slicing fiends that are resistant against magma puts Hayabusa's strength above Ryu's.

Killing enemies and bosses who have durability of the like with a few magical attacks is more impressive than the feat you mentioned, and prove Ryu's chi is destructive as Hayabusa's, who's energy has shown disintegrating a human within the course of a second, not to mention you're using noncanonical material which automatically makes anyone supporting Hayabusa do the same. Hayabusa as the Devil Incarnate stomps Ryu in so many different ways.

Are Ryu's canonical battles mentioned in such detail? If you're referring to noncanonical animes and whatnot, Ryu must face the Devil Incarnate. Also, Fiend Ryu was unfazed after falling from 200 meters or so right before battling the Vigoor Emperor.

Oh really? I'd like you to say now that Evil Ryu can defeat the D.I.; If you bothered to read the opening post, the Third Strike version of Ryu is being used, and seeing as how we are obviously using canonical incarnation of both characters, Fiend Ryu is being used since it's Hayabusa's strongest incarnation. Don't bring Evil Ryu up in a thread where he's not relevant, otherwise face having to argue against something E. Ryu doesn't want to mess with. That goes for feats he's never accomplished in his life.

Originally posted by Lazy MFer
The jet fighters have fuel in them, highly explosive fuel and they were already equipped with missiles that are highly explosive as well. You can throw a sparkler in the fuel tank and destroy a jet fighter.

Hayabusa sliced a jet. It doesn't matter how much fuel something has if you are slicing it.

I just thought I should mention that I watched the whole Street Fighter Alpha movie on youtube, and man, was I dissapointed. I'm simply laughing at how a couple of people here vastly overrate Ryu's hadoukens, not to mention that 99% percent of them were being powered up by the Dark Hadou. Ryu dodging a few bullets doesn't compare to Hayabusa dodging assaults from helicopter turrets and other automatic weapons. Ryu cannot wreck a building without tapping into the Dark Hadou. In addition, he doesn't fire those hadoukens instantly. He takes on average about fifteen seconds or so to shoot just one. Considering that information and post at the top of this page, it would take Ayane to perform her tritower-destroying attack thrice in the time it takes Ryu with the Dark Hadou to shoot one of his hadoukens. Interesting...

This thread as mentioned in the first post discusses Third Strike version of Ryu and the strongest incarnation of Hayabusa, which is technically Fiend Ryu. Now if we were to use the movie, which is inapplicable regardless of whether or not Capcom stated the movie shows how the characters would fight without game restriction, that automatically makes anyone supporting Hayabusa use Ryu with the Dark Dragon Blade, which was shown disintegrating Gamov instantly in one hit. Without game restriction, Hayabusa becomes the Devil Incarnate in a real fight. Oh, and if we were to use the Alpha movie as a source, Ryu can bleed by a beer glass.

Originally posted by Lazy MFer
By fiend Ryu, you mean the blue skinned one right? Because I didn't see a difference in power between the 2. R.Hyabusa has no strength feats to save him in this match.

The jet fighters have fuel in them, highly explosive fuel and they were already equipped with missiles that are highly explosive as well. You can throw a sparkler in the fuel tank and destroy a jet fighter. Defacing 2 sides of a building with your basic special attack is a much greater feat, especially since the destruction even traveled thought the streets and allys bellow out side of the building. Ryu can also disintegrate opponents and his Hadoukens fire instantly, with no charge necessary.

Ryu was nearly blasted to death by Bison's Psycho Shots, survived attacks from Akuma and Sagat and Ryu got blasted with a Kamehameha sized blast at the end of the SFA movie, he was hurt but still standing and was charging his attack while in side the blast, the blast Ryu through was massive, far more massive then R.Hayabusa's Nimpo.

In a hand to hand fight, R.Haybusa will be taking home a loss. I kind of got the jist that we were using normal Ryu and normal R.Hayabusa but if you want to bring other forms in this, I say Evil Ryu sends R.Hayabusa to hell in a hand basket, via Instant Hell Murder.

Give it up you Lazy MFer, no matter how much you prove Ryu is better in H2H, they'll never give him the credit for it. None of Haybusa's feats in H2H combat match Ryu's. So let it go. And let the fans have their day.

Originally posted by Triple Six
Give it up you Lazy MFer, no matter how much you prove Ryu is better in H2H, they'll never give him the credit for it. None of Haybusa's feats in H2H combat match Ryu's. So let it go. And let the fans have their day.
This thread was actually made months ago and Hayabusa was the clear winner in H2H as well as in other types of matches. I decided to revive it just to show how dumbasspriest made an ass of himself earlier.

Originally posted by Xenogears
This thread was actually made months ago and Hayabusa was the clear winner. I decided to revive it just to show how dumbasspriest made an ass of himself.
He said that about Hayabusa equiped with all his waepons and stuff, when I first came here I thought that way too, but now I realize I was wrong but as far as H2H goes, Ryu takes it, IMO.

Ryu is gonna take it in H2H

people are overating the feat that he blew a Jet up. BIG DEAL. it has fuel in it and isn't as big or as strong like the Shinkuu Hadouken from Ryu that is a kind of kamehama blast!!

Strength :Ryu has lifted builders, kicked cars into air, punched Hugo in air with Shin Shoryuken.

Ryu is stronger now then Gouki was in sf Alpha 2. And Gouki sunk an island with a punch

Strength is definitely Ryu's!!!

Speed is about Hayabusa, they have both dodged bullets but Superboy prime made some points like he was fast enough to walk over water soo... Speed is hayabusa's

EXPIERENCE : RYU IN H2H ONLY... Ryu fought over more then 10.000 fights in his life and he is a martial artist. Hayabusa is a Ninja. Hayabusa has offcourse more expierence with weapons and other stuff..

H2H Ryu wins
With Full Equipment --> hayabusa wins

I like how Shin posts a page that doesnt meet his description.

Maybe the next page?