No guns = Better world ?

Started by grey fox8 pages

No guns = Better world ?

M'kay , let's just say that some generic brand of Aliens have destroyed every gun upon the planet , and erased the knowledge of making them from our minds (we also have no way of re-discovering said knowledge) as well as turning all our nuclear weapons into lead.

Would the world become a better place ?

No, cause then people will throw rocks at everyone, and rocks hurt like a bitch and leave bruises. Not nice at all.

well I have to agree with that. Rocks hurt like hell, and a sword in your stomach doesn't feel real nice either.

hmm. Probably not. War will descend down to rocks, sticks, and whatever other blunt object which would make any sort of war feel longer. Oh yes, and greater emphasis on missiles FTW.

Originally posted by grey fox
M'kay , let's just say that some generic brand of Aliens have destroyed every gun upon the planet , and erased the knowledge of making them from our minds (we also have no way of re-discovering said knowledge) as well as turning all our nuclear weapons into lead.

Would the world become a better place ?

I think probably yes, yes.

the elite wants to get rid of guns. they want you to be defenseless

Originally posted by Deano
the elite wants to get rid of guns. they want you to be defenseless

That certainly proves that the US government isn't run by the elite then, now doesn't it?

Guns have never been the problem... Americans spent millions of dollars on golf balls last year; meanwhile, people are dying on the streets.

Originally posted by Jim Reaper
Guns have never been the problem... Americans spent millions of dollars on golf balls last year; meanwhile, people are dying on the streets.

yeah, & we spendin' millions on streets whilst people are dying on the streets.

But shouldnt guns be in the same category as weaponds? So I say no Weaponds = Safer world.

Eliminating weapons = eliminating the tools of aggression. Want a safer world? Eliminate the motivations for aggression, or we'll just keep inventing new weapons, even if it's just cleverer ways to bite and claw.

Originally posted by JacopeX
But shouldnt guns be in the same category as weaponds? So I say no Weaponds = Safer world.

We'll just beat the shit out of each other and use natural resources like rocks and wood to kill others... Removing weapons will just make people die in a more painful way.

Thing is, when someone carries a weapon, especially a firearm, that person will likely use it in a confrontation, if only to force supremacy. While the same conflict could be solved with words or perhaps a less damaging fistfight.

History provides enough statistics on this. Before the common use of firearms in wars or public, the death-rate in wars and crime-releated events was significantly lower.

Originally posted by Pandemoniac
Thing is, when someone carries a weapon, especially a firearm, that person will likely use it in a confrontation, if only to force supremacy. While the same conflict could be solved with words or perhaps a less damaging fistfight.

History provides enough statistics on this. Before the common use of firearms in wars or public, the death-rate in wars and crime-releated events was significantly lower.

The death rate in wars was lower? Do you honestly believe that? Look at how many US and Iraqi soldiers died in Iraq during the war, then compare that to an average battle fought in Medieval times...

Sure guns can keep on killing after the initial invasion is over, but the battles themselves are far less cruel. And if you honestly believe that crime has increased because of guns I sure as hell would like to see some statistics or any kind of proof really.

no weapons= no meat due to we need to kill cattle with weapons in order to get meat

Originally posted by Fishy
The death rate in wars was lower? Do you honestly believe that? Look at how many US and Iraqi soldiers died in Iraq during the war, then compare that to an average battle fought in Medieval times...

Sure guns can keep on killing after the initial invasion is over, but the battles themselves are far less cruel. And if you honestly believe that crime has increased because of guns I sure as hell would like to see some statistics or any kind of proof really.

The death toll in medieval wars mostly concerned those directly involved with the battle at hand. No long-range warheads, nukes, poison gas or land mines killing bystanders.
Ancient battles took relatively less lives amough the involved parties, just because of the inefficiency of the applied weaponry.
What is more cruel anyhow, stabbing a person who is equally motivated to appear at the front, or just pushing a button and destroying a whole family that wants nothing to do with the mess their leaders gotten them into.
More so, a mere robbery in the old days consisted of getting clubbed across the head and having your gold stolen, waking up bruised but alive.
Today crooks shoot you in the face to take your phone.

The power of weaponry distorts one's judgement and actions, leading to disastrous results

a gun on its own isnt dangerous give it a human different matter. . .

Originally posted by Pandemoniac
The death toll in medieval wars mostly concerned those directly involved with the battle at hand. No long-range warheads, nukes, poison gas or land mines killing bystanders.
Ancient battles took relatively less lives amough the involved parties, just because of the inefficiency of the applied weaponry.
What is more cruel anyhow, stabbing a person who is equally motivated to appear at the front, or just pushing a button and destroying a whole family that wants nothing to do with the mess their leaders gotten them into.
More so, a mere robbery in the old days consisted of getting clubbed across the head and having your gold stolen, waking up bruised but alive.
Today crooks shoot you in the face to take your phone.

The power of weaponry distorts one's judgement and actions, leading to disastrous results

In the most recent wars advanced weaponry has been used to avoid civilian casualty's they happen sure, but precise weapons are becoming more and more popular.

In ancient times it wasn't uncommon to slaughter the population of the city you took in order to make sure the rest wouldn't resist. The casualty's of actions like that by far outweigh the casualty's in wars of today including the total amount of casualty's in Iraq. Modern weapons have the potential to do far more damage but recently it seems like they are doing less then ancient times would have.

Originally posted by Fishy
We'll just beat the shit out of each other and use natural resources like rocks and wood to kill others... Removing weapons will just make people die in a more painful way.

I don't think so. I think it would also decrease the amounts of death due to different factors. Though I am not for banning weapons.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't think so. I think it would also decrease the amounts of death due to different factors. Though I am not for banning weapons.

Do you honestly believe that removing modern day weapons would stop us from fighting wars?