No guns = Better world ?

Started by Rogue Jedi8 pages

whatever you say, B.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
whatever you say, B.

Why are you asking if you aren't really that interested?

more curious than interested.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
more curious than interested.

Though apparently that neither.

yes, kinda curious. that and bored.

Originally posted by Pandemoniac
The death toll in medieval wars mostly concerned those directly involved with the battle at hand. No long-range warheads, nukes, poison gas or land mines killing bystanders.
Ancient battles took relatively less lives amough the involved parties, just because of the inefficiency of the applied weaponry.
What is more cruel anyhow, stabbing a person who is equally motivated to appear at the front, or just pushing a button and destroying a whole family that wants nothing to do with the mess their leaders gotten them into.
More so, a mere robbery in the old days consisted of getting clubbed across the head and having your gold stolen, waking up bruised but alive.
Today crooks shoot you in the face to take your phone.

The power of weaponry distorts one's judgement and actions, leading to disastrous results


Check the stats on the Crusades and the Conquests of Rome. In medieval times and earlier collateral damage WAS part of war. Villages were burned, civilian men slaughtered, civilian woman raped and so on. Brutality, oppression, maliciousness and war were part of life well before firearms.

Robbery in the old days consisted of a slit throat, a sword run through or an arrow in the back. People were robbed of their lives, livestock and land.

thats why i am glad i was not a gladiator, or a conquistador, or....whatever.

Originally posted by Badabing
Check the stats on the Crusades and the Conquests of Rome. In medieval times and earlier collateral damage WAS part of war. Villages were burned, civilian men slaughtered, civilian woman raped and so on. Brutality, oppression, maliciousness and war were part of life well before firearms.

Robbery in the old days consisted of a slit throat, a sword run through or an arrow in the back. People were robbed of their lives, livestock and land.

Yes, and still more innocents die now than in the past in numbers and percentage.

Originally posted by Funkadelic
Yes, and still more innocents die now than in the past in numbers and percentage.

Innocents? Like when Jerusalem was conquered during the First crusade and all Muslims were killed? Like when Alexander burned city's to get them to stay nice, like Ghenghis Khan executing entire villages just so he wouldn't have to fight the next one?

then again we could consider wars like World War 2 modern wars, in which case nukes, napalm and just bombing of city's could be considered really bad but even then I would have to wonder which wars caused more deaths. Modern day wars however do not even begin to compare

Originally posted by Mindship
Eliminating weapons = eliminating the tools of aggression. Want a safer world? Eliminate the motivations for aggression, or we'll just keep inventing new weapons, even if it's just cleverer ways to bite and claw.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
hunters? you can buy meat at the supermarket. protecting your families? if the criminals have no guns, why do we need them?
Because the criminals are already criminals, so what's to stop them from getting guns if they're not afraid to break the law?

the best way to really make a better world is to convince everyone to get rid of guns

then when they're defenseless you kill them all (or if you consider that morally wrong crush their wills under you ironfisted gun toting dictatorship)

Originally posted by Funkadelic
Yes, and still more innocents die now than in the past in numbers and percentage.

No doubt. It seems people have more time to worry about petty differences now.

Originally posted by Badabing
It seems people have more time to worry about petty differences now.

I think its more that now its much easier to kill people (thx guns)

for example Columbine

Kids like that have ALWAYS wanted to kill bullies
before guns they didn't stand a chance but with them such revenge is possible

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think its more that now its much easier to kill people (thx guns)

for example Columbine

Kids like that have ALWAYS wanted to kill bullies
before guns they didn't stand a chance but with them such revenge is possible


Yeah, it seems like these school shootings are becoming more prevalent.

Originally posted by §noopy
Because the criminals are already criminals, so what's to stop them from getting guns if they're not afraid to break the law?

i KNOW its not really feasible, that there would be a black market for guns.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i KNOW its not really feasible, that there would be a black market for guns.

Bullshit.

Of course some people could and would still get guns, but it would be far less and most people would not go through the problems of acquiring a gun, but the way it is now, it's easier to just take one with you. Seeing as you can buy one at your local toy store anyway.

Originally posted by Fishy
Bullshit.

Of course some people could and would still get guns, but it would be far less and most people would not go through the problems of acquiring a gun, but the way it is now, it's easier to just take one with you. Seeing as you can buy one at your local toy store anyway.


I was referring to an impossible scenario in which there would be no possible to get a gun, lest you were a cop or soldier.
of course there would be a black market for guns.

Originally posted by Fishy
Seeing as you can buy one at your local toy store anyway.

Oh god I've been hit by NERF bullets!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Oh god I've been hit by NERF bullets!

Matter of speaking, that wasn't meant to be taken literally.