No guns = Better world ?

Started by ThePittman8 pages

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
yes, of course

more weapons = less crime

that makes perfect sense time to get my five year old his first AK

Oh, sarcasm. 😛 So do you have anything to back up your claim? I’m sure if you are being held hostage you call the police instead of Green Peace.

You said weapons in the hands of civilians reduces crime not in the hands of police or military

I couldn't call the cops if I was a hostage

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You said weapons in the hands of civilians reduces crime not in the hands of police or military

I couldn't call the cops if I was a hostage

Do you have anything to back up your statement or you just talking out your butt? It has been shown over and over again that if the common citizen is armed that criminals think twice before robbing someone though on the flip side it also increases the chances of accidental shooting as well. There is a good and bad side to this argument, there is no right answer. Until the mindset of people change one is good as the other.

Oh and I never said that, if you read my previous posts.

my mistake

I was responding to such a statement however

Re: No guns = Better world ?

Originally posted by grey fox
M'kay , let's just say that some generic brand of Aliens have destroyed every gun upon the planet , and erased the knowledge of making them from our minds (we also have no way of re-discovering said knowledge) as well as turning all our nuclear weapons into lead.

Would the world become a better place ?

No, we've been killing each other since our inception, a lack of guns is not going to stop it.

Originally posted by Pandemoniac
The death toll in medieval wars mostly concerned those directly involved with the battle at hand. No long-range warheads, nukes, poison gas or land mines killing bystanders.
Ancient battles took relatively less lives amough the involved parties, just because of the inefficiency of the applied weaponry.
What is more cruel anyhow, stabbing a person who is equally motivated to appear at the front, or just pushing a button and destroying a whole family that wants nothing to do with the mess their leaders gotten them into.
More so, a mere robbery in the old days consisted of getting clubbed across the head and having your gold stolen, waking up bruised but alive.
Today crooks shoot you in the face to take your phone.

The power of weaponry distorts one's judgement and actions, leading to disastrous results

You actually believe this!?

WHAT!?

The winners of a battle would rape and pillage towns and villages on a REGULAR BASIS. On top of that, they took the men they didn't kill as slaves.

More so, a mere robbery in the old days consisted of getting clubbed across the head and having your gold stolen, waking up bruised but alive.

This is especially hilarious. Clubbed across the head in the old days? When the hell was this? Neanderthal times? People have been getting stabbed and killed in robberies since man figured out how to sharpen flint rocks!

You're either very naive or very stupid, I can't decide which. I hope to God it's naive, for your sake.

But would fewer guns reduce the amount of killing?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But would fewer guns [B]reduce the amount of killing? [/B]

It's possible, but not likely.

It'd definitely make it harder to kill, but just as many people died back when swords and arrows were the weapon of choice as are dying today.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
It's possible, but not likely.

It'd definitely make it harder to kill, but just as many people died back when swords and arrows were the weapon of choice as are dying today.

fortunately people today are just too stupid to make a working bow and arrow or sword

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
fortunately people today are just too stupid to make a working bow and arrow or sword
No they just make complex explosives that they can learn of the Internet, read in books how to kill people or what ever you want. All you need is a taser gun and a knife and you can lay waste to people. Why would you need a bow when a M-80 and a bottle or propane works wonders or Molotov cocktails just to name a few. Why would you need to make any weapons when you just go out and buy them, a golf club works just as well.

Doing away with guns would not give any peace. Before guns was there peace?

Originally posted by ThePittman
No they just make complex explosives that they can learn of the Internet, read in books how to kill people or what ever you want. All you need is a taser gun and a knife and you can lay waste to people. Why would you need a bow when a M-80 and a bottle or propane works wonders or Molotov cocktails just to name a few. Why would you need to make any weapons when you just go out and buy them, a golf club works just as well.

awsome! thx for the advice

but if aliens wiped our memories of guns, destroyed all the guns and got rid of nukes do you think they'd leave behind information like that?

So I guess we couldn't really make a determination of if more or less people would die, but we could definitely say that taking out firearms would change which people died.

Instead of an equal playing field it would be only the strong that would survive again.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
awsome! thx for the advice

but if aliens wiped our memories of guns, destroyed all the guns and got rid of nukes do you think they'd leave behind information like that?

If they took away the knowledge of making chemical reactions then that would put us back into the Stone Age. We couldn’t make lights work, cars run or simply make electricity. We wouldn’t know how to make metal, plastic or medicine; this would kill off more people than they are trying to save.

You really need to try and stop the sarcasm, you suck at it. 😛

Originally posted by ThePittman
Do you have anything to back up your statement or you just talking out your butt? It has been shown over and over again that if the common citizen is armed that criminals think twice before robbing someone though on the flip side it also increases the chances of accidental shooting as well. There is a good and bad side to this argument, there is no right answer. Until the mindset of people change one is good as the other.

Oh and I never said that, if you read my previous posts.

Do you have anything to back that up?

Show me some research and then I might believe you, until that moment I am still going to say that criminals are more likely to buy guns legally then law abiding citizens.

The fact that everybody can buy a gun doesn't mean everybody does ad the criminal will still have the advantage of surprise, at least if he or she is any good at what they are doing.

Originally posted by Fishy
Do you have anything to back that up?

Show me some research and then I might believe you, until that moment I am still going to say that criminals are more likely to buy guns legally then law abiding citizens.

The fact that everybody can buy a gun doesn't mean everybody does ad the criminal will still have the advantage of surprise, at least if he or she is any good at what they are doing.

There have already been two posting of research, what do you have?

Well..there is of course the gun related death figures in different countries, which, I do not recall quite, you may help me, are what, like:

10000 USA - under 300 every other First World Country?

some could say no guns=one less way of killing. others could say no guns=other ways of killing will become more popular.

I am not disagreeing that there are a lot of gun related death and the ease of killing someone with a gun. If you take away all guns then you eliminate that type of killing but doesn’t stop the killing, guns in the hands of it’s citizens have been show to deter some crimes and prevent them from happening in the first place but also cause problems as well.

Where you stop one type of crime with a gun another type of crime is committed. Example in Canada the homicide rate with gun is very low compared to the US but the rape crimes are way higher. People will always find away to get what they want be it using a gun, knife or bomb.

Now if people don't have guns, how would one protect themselves? Especially against someone who has a gun.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Now if people don't have guns, how would one protect themselves? Especially against someone who has a gun.
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