Longest cut scene in a video game

Started by JToTheP4 pages

Originally posted by InnerRise

You should really learn how to quote b/c that's a huge pile of mess that I will just not drudge through.

I guess I just had to let some stuff out. Sorry that you all just happened to be randomly selected to be on the other end of my venting. I mean no offense as usually..............................yeah..........

Merry Christmas Everybody!! doped
anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

That's why I didn't directly quote it, so I could answer by paragraph.

I was just making a point that kids today are spoiled by graphics, I've never had a problem with you Rise.

Graphics have taken over gameplay, but what the heck can we few people that happen to appreciate great storylines, depth and gameplay do about it, nothing but deal with it, until you can get every gamer to refuse to stop buying FPS, RPG, Fighters or any game genre that has a sucky plot, then we have nothing else but to deal with it. Gears of war has great graphics and superb gameplay, the storyline is what I just don't like, but thats not going to stop every Tom, dick and harry including me buying it, at the end of the day, its just a game, its not a novel or a movie that needs to be good, its just a game, and in the game industry, storylines don't make money, fancy graphics and gameplay do, it can be as brain numming as shooting the same aliens all day and people will enjoy it, have the same kinds of girly looking boys falling in love, people will still buy, have 2000 war based games with changed enemies and still a crap storyline, as long as Tom bought it and Sony, or Microsoft or Nintendo think its a cool game, we will buy it.

Its a harsh world business, and we as customers think we have a say but we really don't, just have to deal with it as it comes, until one of you has the ability to become a game developer and topple FF with its flashy graphics and cliche storyplots, then all we can do is moan about it on this forum, or just buythe game and deal with it.

Well, Action shooters like Gears have never really been known for their storytelling or storyline. Gears actually has a really solid storyline, you just have to really make an effort to seek it out. Most of it is told outside the game, in the manual and even moreso in the strategy guide. If you look online you'll see even more as well. The storytelling in the game was really weak, it was my major complaint. After seeing how solid the story and the setting really is, it seemed like a huge wasted opportunity not to include more plot devices and character development, woulda been really nice, but the gameplay is so fun that it's really a small complaint.

I think most shooters have a rather bland storyline leaving a gamer who hungers depth empty handed, Halo has a storyline as well, but somehow I get the feeling it was all chucked together as they carried on with sequels, Halo 1 for example explained little or nothing, Halo 2 only explained a bit more due to the fact the books etc helped it tell the story, but only the Halo nerds actually sat, read and enjoyed it, I thought the books were badly written, and didn't much enjoy them at all, but then I'm a writer, I also want to be a movie producer, so I can tell the difference between something with a superb plot and something that is just there for the sake of it, and something that is just "crap".

FF7 was a good game, both gameplay, graphics and plot wise, and so was 8, although there were parts of 8 that left me rather baffled until I later understood them. After 8 only the most rabid of FF fanboys didn't realise that the plots were bcoming rather cliche and the games lacking spice, 9 was like the talk of the town, but yet it wasn't really all that exciting to play, and 10 was just plain embarrasing, thats where I stopped playing FF games, I have yet to try 12, I haven't bought any of the spinoffs cos I can't see thier purpose, the only reason I want the PSP version is well, because its on PSP, and Advent children was pretty good, however, I think Square realises that 7 put them where they are today, so they try to overkill it with needless sequels and spinoffs.

I have played quite a few games recently, even new gen ones, and when it comes to storyline wise, they usually fail miserably, not that raters, analysts, buyers or devs care that much, at the end of the day, the more Aliens, blood, graphics, fancy features, cgi clips, cool characters in outfits that say cool things and all the rest of that nonsense the game has, the better, and when you have millions of fans like Halo or GOW or FF or Mario has, why waste time thinking of storylines?

Originally posted by Pulse2

FF7 was a good game, both gameplay, graphics and plot wise, and so was 8, although there were parts of 8 that left me rather baffled until I later understood them. After 8 only the most rabid of FF fanboys didn't realise that the plots were bcoming rather cliche and the games lacking spice, 9 was like the talk of the town, but yet it wasn't really all that exciting to play,

See, no, 7 was not that revolutionary aside from graphics, any turn-based RPG has that style of gameplay.

8 was just made because Squaresoft had to make one last game before they merged with SquareEnix. 8 I happen to actually like though with how 7 was blown out of proportion.

9 was the 10th.Anniversary.To.The.Series. so it wasn't about being the "talk of the town" it was about 10 years of success, the overrated trash that was 7, the original 6 that started it, and the underrated 8.

And the movie producers have the same mentality, the fastest way to cash, is the way they'll take, out of 30 films that come out in the cinema, we see 1 or maybe 2, reason, the rest are not worth the money. Or you could simply use a download software to download free of charge. Now, if we had films out like LOTR, star wars and matrix 1 out all the time, we'd be spoilt for choice.

With most of these games though, the likes of online gaming takes away the reason to even bother putting in a storyline, if Tom can play with Harry on XBL, everything will be okay. No need to worry about plots.

Originally posted by Pulse2
And the movie producers have the same mentality, the fastest way to cash, is the way they'll take, out of 30 films that come out in the cinema, we see 1 or maybe 2, reason, the rest are not worth the money. Or you could simply use a download software to download free of charge. Now, if we had films out like LOTR, star wars and matrix 1 out all the time, we'd be spoilt for choice.

With most of these games though, the likes of online gaming takes away the reason to even bother putting in a storyline, if Tom can play with Harry on XBL, everything will be okay. No need to worry about plots.

Harry Potter, Star Wars, and LOTR are all unique to eachother though, so those aren't to be argued as repetitive trash like Final Fantasy.

Well, if you notice that any game with online multiplayer has a short/bad single-player campaign, with a few exceptions like Subsistance.

Originally posted by JToTheP
See, no, 7 was not that revolutionary aside from graphics, any turn-based RPG has that style of gameplay.

8 was just made because Squaresoft had to make one last game before they merged with SquareEnix. 8 I happen to actually like though with how 7 was blown out of proportion.

9 was the 10th.Anniversary.To.The.Series. so it wasn't about being the "talk of the town" it was about 10 years of success, the overrated trash that was 7, the original 6 that started it, and the underrated 8.

Despite what may feel about 7, it is talked about even today, as it was not only the game that refreshed a slowly dying Square, but also started a new generation on a new console being PS1. Hardly anyone expect hardcore gamers knew much about FF at the time 6 was out, since 7 and up, even non gamers have a vague idea of what FF is.

FF8 was underated, and I long for a sequel, but due to the way it ended, that seems next to impossible now. And I don't want them doing stupid spinoffs with other characters you spot while playing 8 or a prologue of before 8 began, nor do I want a 100 year gap between 8 and 8-2 when Riona was pregnant (coincidence) and had a boy and a girl who will go on to fight the forces of evil and become seeds, so I'd rather they just left it alone or make a remake of it.

I never want to see FF10 or 9 again.

Originally posted by Pulse2
Despite what may feel about 7, it is talked about even today, as it was not only the game that refreshed a slowly dying Square, but also started a new generation on a new console being PS1. Hardly anyone expect hardcore gamers knew much about FF at the time 6 was out, since 7 and up, even non gamers have a vague idea of what FF is.

FF8 was underated, and I long for a sequel, but due to the way it ended, that seems next to impossible now. And I don't want them doing stupid spinoffs with other characters you spot while playing 8 or a prologue of before 8 began, nor do I want a 100 year gap between 8 and 8-2 when Riona was pregnant (coincidence) and had a boy and a girl who will go on to fight the forces of evil and become seeds, so I'd rather they just left it alone or make a remake of it.

I never want to see FF10 or 9 again.

That is a reason why RPGs are doomed, 7 is still brought up when it should of been killed. I love Advent Children, but I hate 7. Star Ocean 3 is the only SquareEnix product I've enjoyed lately, next to FF3, which is a CLASSIC so it isn't PLAGUED like any FF after 7.

It is sad that anyone who doesn't even play FF know about it because of how overrated 7 is, horribly.

8 will never get a remake, because it is the OPPOSITE of 7. OH NO, SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, TIME TO HATE IT! 🙄

BF I know hates 8, along with other users here. I'm the only one I know of who likes 8 & 9, and everytime I talk about 9, I bring up the argument that it is the 10th anniversary game so it SHOULD be like the classic formula, which then 7 comes up. I call it overrated trash and get fed a bunch of bullshit about the game play and plot. I say that any classic RPG has turn-based game play, but yet 7 is still "UNIQUE AND AMAZING."

I just don't understand how you could hate 9, if you loooove 7 so badly, and 9 is a series tribute.

I just despise 9, 8 is where I started to be honest, then I played 7, then 9 came out, after playing 8 and 7, the release of 9 did little or nothing to quench my thirst for another interesting RPG, it was okay, but not spectacular, then I played 6 on PC, was good, but soon realised why it had not been recognised as much, after playing 1 and 2 the originals, 3, 4 and 5 I didn't play until after playing 10 which was a disgrace, during the period of playing 5, 10-2 came out which was an insult to FF and RPG fans, I never got to play FF11 or 12 except a demo of 12 in America during a holiday over a year ago.

Sounds like you just don't like the vintage style FF games, which would explain your distain for 9, since it basically was a vintage FF game with pretty graphics.

Originally posted by BackFire
Sounds like you just don't like the vintage style FF games, which would explain your distain for 9, since it basically was a vintage FF game with pretty graphics.
Vintage? Wtf? 9 was just a little boy cat creature with daggers, who fell in love with a girl who eventually can't speak, I played it and didn't enjoy it, it doesn't mean I don't like vintage, it just means I don't like 9, I like 1,2,3 and 4 5 and 6 were okay, not bad, but prefered the first four.

Its nothing to do with vintage, I just didn't like 9, end of story.

The whole style of 9 was directly old school, in fact the game was advertised as a return to the old roots of the series, having a more fantasy light hearted setting, like the older ones, and having cute silly looking characters, like the older ones and having simplified combat and character building system, and even having the crystals, which were a central theme for all FF games unil 6.

I liked the older ones, just didn't like 9.

Originally posted by JToTheP
I'm the only one I know of who likes 8 & 9, and everytime I talk about 9, I bring up the argument that it is the 10th anniversary game so it SHOULD be like the classic formula, which then 7 comes up.

IX was the best IMO.

Originally posted by Pulse2
I liked the older ones, just didn't like 9.

Fair enough, dude.

Was it just the story about 9 you disliked? Or was the gameplay a problem for you as well, because a lot of people thought the gameplay was too slow, especially after they got used to the speed of the newer games.

Originally posted by BackFire
Fair enough, dude.

Was it just the story about 9 you disliked? Or was the gameplay a problem for you as well, because a lot of people thought the gameplay was too slow, especially after they got used to the speed of the newer games.

I guess it was a combination of different things, the storyline wasn't too bad, but after playing 7 and 8 I just couldn't adjust to the flow of 9, the plot was fine though, characters I couldn't seem to take a liking to though, I think it is because previous FF games I had played before it had characters with strong personalities, so its easier to see it through thier eyes, something about the atmosphere in 9 I didn't like either, FF6, 7 and 8 had really lighty and cheerful atmospheres, playing 9 always made me bored rather quickly, not only that, kind of depressed. I didn't much mine zizi or what ever his name was again the little mage, he was quite cool, but the other characters I didn't much like at all, including Zidane.

However saying that, Alexander was the best Alexander I have seen in FF games, a whole castle, that was kinda awesome, but the Brahamut kinda sucked. The twins were wierd, I couldn't really see thier purpose except to divert the plot onto sub plots.
There were some good points about the game, but overall, I can't really say that playing 9 was an experience I will never forget, because it wasn't. It wasn't a bad game at all, and the fact that many FF fans and people I knew liked it says something, but I just didn't enjoy the experience. There were a few moments, but not enough to make me not want to put down the controller to find out more of the story.

I like Cutscenes, and i think Kingdom Hearts did towards the end. I loved it though. 😄

Originally posted by Souichiro Nagi
I like Cutscenes, and i think Kingdom Hearts did towards the end. I loved it though. 😄
It had an opening cutscene as well as an ending cutscene with The Fabulous Utada Hikaru singing the Amazing Theme Song, "Sanctuary/Passion" in 2 different versions, for the beginning and end.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Yeah! 😄 "My Sanctuary my sanctuary now."