Well, if Roldz is done, I won't hammer away while he's not free to respond. I'll recap a few points and then sign off as well.
Initial strategies:
We spent page after page arguing over weather my initial strategy would work. I won't repeat them here.
Roldz strategy OTOH was an immediate failure. He never presented any justification for how his spotters might overcome Mordo's magical misdirection. He repeated their sensory powers again and again, without bringing any new ideas into play. It was just more "track their energies and shoot them."
I said what my response would be if Ecstacy didn't initially snag Superman. Rolds never posted a single idea for what he might do if he couldn't find us with his scans.
Progress of the Debate
Roldz again and again responded to my moves with things his characters could have done to avoid their fates. Unfortunately these repeatedly contradicted what he had actually said his characters were doing in his write-up or in previous posts. This is a battle, not an odds thread. We need to be judged by what we plan for and do, not by what might've been helpful in hindsight.
I must also point out that his response to my second major attack was to claim powers for Dane beyond what's allowed in his weight-class, and then to again switch tactics after already posting his response.
Alternatives based on your opponents responses are fine, but wanting a do-over because you changed your mind is not.
Some have suggested that I was dictating what his characters would do. Not so. Apart from suggesting that Superman might take the bait for my initial trap (which I didn't argue even once when Roldz write-up said otherwise), all I have done is attempt to hold Roldz to what Roldz said his charcters were doing, and post my next moves accordingly.
Thanks to all, esp Roldz and Evangel, and good night.
Originally posted by Laminator_X
write-up also contradicts you claim of Grail watching Superman's back as a source of salvation. Your stated opening move for Grail was to search my half of the battlefield for snakes and alligators ("locals" as you put it).
Niether of those things ads up to avoiding my initial strike.
What you mentioned above is not my opening move but was my prep.. Grail was searching for the energy signature of the local as my prep, he was free when the initial fight begins.. Check my write up again..
Umm, Roldz all that scan shows is a medic having a hard time administering anasthesia, and having problems with her "medical scans." That's a far cry from what you're claiming
Roldz strategy OTOH was an immediate failure. He never presented any justification for how his spotters might overcome Mordo's magical misdirection. He repeated their sensory powers again and again, without bringing any new ideas into play. It was just more "track their energies and shoot them."
A 5X5 mile radius is no problem for a storm this size to go through, Also the massive Quake that Blue supes would cause, I dont have to find you ill just cover the whole field w/ those storm, Temugin matter ring ain doing anything since he cant make the dome anymore stronger, you know he cant make elements into another making it stronger...
I said what my response would be if Ecstacy didn't initially snag Superman. Rolds never posted a single idea for what he might do if he couldn't find us with his scans.
Roldz again and again responded to my moves with things his characters could have done to avoid their fates. Unfortunately these repeatedly contradicted what he had actually said his characters were doing in his write-up or in previous posts. This is a battle, not an odds thread. We need to be judged by what we plan for and do, not by what might've been helpful in hindsight
I must also point out that his response to my second major attack was to claim powers for Dane beyond what's allowed in his weight-class, and then to again switch tactics after already posting his response.
Thanks to all, esp Roldz and Evangel, and good night.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
wow....I was gonna vote Laminator guess I came too late. He was doing a better job debating, which I think is the most important thing. Team wise maybe Roldz had an edge but eh.....good luck to both
I gave this match two days, and even gave it an extra couple hours today. You've had plenty of time to vote.