Rocky III vs. Rocky IV vs. Rocky V

What I think is so hilarious and funny about the people like The Core and Ultraman Baltans attempts to justify Rocky 4 being a good movie is that Rocky 4 was a winner of only Razzie awards.I typed in and did a google search of the Rocky films by typing in Rocky 2 Razzie awards to satisfy my curiousity on if they had won any Razzie awards.Nothing for Rocky 2 came up but SEVERAL-count em SEVERAL links came up showing all the razzie awards that Rocky 4 had won.ha ha ha.There were even more links to razzie awards won by Rocky 4 than their were for Rocky 5.Rocky 5 had its share of razzie awards there as well but nobody likes that one so no need to post the awards for that movie.However here are the results of the razzie awards that came up on those links for razzie awards movies were nominated for and won in 1986.LOL.

Heres the list.

Worst Actor. Stallone for both Rambo First Blood part 2
and Rocky 4.

Worst Actress
Bridgette Nielson

Worst supporting actor
Burt Young

Worst supporting actress
Nominee-Talia Shire
winner-Bridgette Neilson

Worst musical Score-Rocky 4-not surprising since the traditional
musical score was non existent in that film.LOL

worst screenplay-Rambo.First Blood part 2
Nominee-Rocky 4.

Worst Picture winner-Rambo part two
Nominee-Rocky 4

and finally biggest winner.
Rambo 2 just barely edging Rocky 4. 😆 😆 🤣 😂 😆

So the movie some here are defending as a good movie is a movie that the only kind of awards won by it were Razzie awards. 😆

Your only attack at Rocky IV is saying that it won several razzies? So if the razzies say it's awful it has to be awful, yes? No one even takes the razzies seriously anyway.

It's all a matter of opinion, who cares.

No thats not my only attack,just read through all my other posts,I got PLENTY of attacks. 😄

Right... I don't particularly like any of them, they all fall short.

3 - Rocky gets obsessed with being famous and neglects training and working on keeping his title where on the the other side Clubber Lang is working his arse off. This becomes a story of revenge when Lang gets rid of Rocky's coach. Then Rocky beats Lang in the ring... Not sure what message this is trying to send out.. "Goof off, who cares, you'll win anyway"... "Revenge is a good thing... eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth"...

The film wasn't too bad though, it was entertaining.

4 - Okay... What the ****? Rocky gets in the ring with someone who killed Apollo (Rocky had trouble fighting with in I and II) and wins... Now I don't expect a Rocky film to be realistic but this may have crossed the line in to obscurity. Then we have Rocky's ridiculous speech at the end of the film, what a crock of shit. "Stop fighting! We can all get along if we change"... Surely that was sort of the point of the cold war... No one wiling to change. Rocky just shouldn't be sending out moral messages. What a ridiculous film. Rocky Vs. Communism! If this film had been made earlier it would have been even more of a laugh... I quite enjoyed the fighting scene though and him training in the snow.

5 - **** off.... Seriously... **** right off.

Originally posted by Solo
Your only attack at Rocky IV is saying that it won several razzies? So if the razzies say it's awful it has to be awful, yes? No one even takes the razzies seriously anyway.

It's all a matter of opinion, who cares.

I forgot to mention this earlier.Actually thats not true that they dont take razzies seriously.For a movie to be considered for so many razzie awards like Rocky 5 AND Rocky 4 got,they got to seriously be considered a bad movie by many people.Rocky 4 and 5 got those nominations because they ARE seriously bad movies. 😄 Thats fine if someone wants to say they like Rocky 4 the best of the Rocky movies.What I dont like is when they make false untrue statements that Rocky 4 is considered the most popular Rocky movie of the sequals just because THEY like it the best when theres no evidence of that whatsoever.I dislike Rocky 4 more so than Rocky 5 but I can acknowledge it that most people hate Rocky 5 more so because theres evidence of that.Not so with Rocky 4 being the most popular of the sequals other than the lame reason of it was the biggest box office winner of the Rocky movies.a very poor excuse to use to try and convince people that its the most popular.Rocky 4 like Rocky 5 got so many razzie awards because so many people and critics hated those two Rocky movies 😄

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Right... I don't particularly like any of them, they all fall short.

3 - Rocky gets obsessed with being famous and neglects training and working on keeping his title where on the the other side Clubber Lang is working his arse off. This becomes a story of revenge when Lang gets rid of Rocky's coach. Then Rocky beats Lang in the ring... Not sure what message this is trying to send out.. "Goof off, who cares, you'll win anyway"... "Revenge is a good thing... eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth"...

The film wasn't too bad though, it was entertaining.

4 - Okay... What the ****? Rocky gets in the ring with someone who killed Apollo (Rocky had trouble fighting with in I and II) and wins... Now I don't expect a Rocky film to be realistic but this may have crossed the line in to obscurity. Then we have Rocky's ridiculous speech at the end of the film, what a crock of shit. "Stop fighting! We can all get along if we change"... Surely that was sort of the point of the cold war... No one wiling to change. Rocky just shouldn't be sending out moral messages. What a ridiculous film. Rocky Vs. Communism! If this film had been made earlier it would have been even more of a laugh... I quite enjoyed the fighting scene though and him training in the snow.

5 - **** off.... Seriously... **** right off.

heh heh.good points.That was the thing I liked about Rocky 3 was it had some sense of realisem in it.Reminds of Mike Tyson when he was the champ.He got to the point where he thought he was so great and could not be beaten by anybody-who can forgot those words-Im the greatest fighter in the world.He got to that point of thinking that he was invisible in the ring that he did not train seriously hard when he fought Buster douglass and took him lightly where Buster Douglass at that time was hungry and trained hard for that fight.Douglass beat Tyson and then the same thing happened to him.He got such a big head out of it beating Tyson that he also stopped training hard like he did against Tyson and got fat and out of shape after that and when he fought Ivander Holyfield,like Tyson he lost as well. Rocky 3 was realistic in the way boxing really is.thats why I put it as my second favorite Rocky movie.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
No thats not my only attack,just read through all my other posts,I got PLENTY of attacks. 😄

"Attacks" are reserved for people who don't have a point, like yourself. Childishly teaming up on other people who have indeed made valid points, whereas you just impose your opinion on everyone else, gabbing about "reality" and "credibility" ina movie that never claimed to be "realistic" in the first place. People don't go to movies for "realism". They go for entertainment.

As stated before, The Razzies are about as worthless as any other Academy Award, however, in your slanderous onslaught, you forgot to mentuion that "Rocky 4", in fact, did NOT WIN all the awards you named. They were nominations, one half of them, and 2 of which went to Brigette Nielsen, who had maybe 10 minutes of screen time.

The same people also "awarded" Vince DeCola "Worst Score", which is mindboggling, considering he was a GOLDEN GLOBE and GRAMMY nominee only 1 year earlier.

I'm finished "discussing" this with you Parker, and you, Bakerboy. You've both got your heads so far up your collective asses, too concerned reiterating invalid points, to listen to anyone elses POINTS and OPINIONS other than your own.

I'm not stooping any furthur than I have. I respect people's opinions when they have one. You don't, so you don't get to enjoy that courtesy.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Like I said,talk to the people that make reasonable points like Dusty and others.

Yeah. Dusty's been in this thread one time, and said the exact same thing I said two times before.

Ignorant punk.

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The blantant hypocracy of the film really gets to me.

"Russian Athletes using steroids"

"American Athletes are pure hard work and no enhancements"

Wow! Rocky IV is the only film that causes a reverse affect on me. I'm all pro-American stuff...but this film had me cheering for the Soviets.

Good job postsing those ratziees nominations, mr parker.

For my part, i have posted my opinion very clear about those movies and nothing more to add.

OMG, 3 was the bomb, 4 sucked donkey balls, and 5 . . . I'd rather have a root canal that suffer through watching 5 again. And Dolph what's his face in part 4 was ridiculous. Russian people don't even sound like that in real life. He was an insult to all Russian people all over the world, I think Stallone should make a public apology to the world for making Rocky 4. Rocky 4 is the cancer of boxing movies. My Great Aunt Edna's home movie of her making crab cakes was more entertaining. I crap on Rocky 4 and wipe my ass with 5.

I loved 4!

From the Rocky movies I have seen, it would be......

1. Rocky
2. Rocky 4
3. Rocky 3
4. Rocky 5

1. Rocky
2. Rocky 6
3. Rocky 2
4. Rocky 3
5. Rocky 4
6. Rocky 5

I just love that training montage in Rocky IV.

original and 3 are the best so i voted for 3. 4 sucked so did 5, and 6 was better than i thought it would be so.. thats my three cents and yes thats one more than ur two cents

I find it harder and harder to accept people's "opinions" when they're so infintely baseless. Don't say "it sucked" just because you didn't like it. It's all subjective, but it has more positive reaffirmations than it does negative, and that's namely in box office stats, like I said., Considering tickets cost 1/2 of what they do now back then, $300 Million dollars goes a lot furthur.

I can't believe Adrian never got naked.

I vote Rocky 3. As others have said Rocky 4 and 5 sucked. I hate them as well for the reasons others have listed. They really do suck and are a disgrace to the Rocky series.

No offensive, but you're 14, and your favorite movies include "Freaky Friday" and "Material Girls". I don't think think you've seen all 5 prior "Rocky" films, been able to comprehend them, much less the social impact behind that of "Rocky 4".

So you think you know me, because you took a quick peek at my profile? Well guess again buddy. Just because I like Freaky Friday and Material Girls doesn't mean I don't have the knowledge to comprehend them. So next time please get your facts straight. You don't know me, and don't think you will just because you read a few details in my profile.