Darth Nihilus vs. Yoda

1. I dunno, but this argument has been used before, and nothing said.
2. That was not Yoda's opinion, it was stated by the narrator. Yoda hardly seems the type to flatter himself.

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You guys are STILL missing the point. Nihilus' technique is not really a technique but a wound in the force. There is one known defense for it and that's to loop out of the force or become a wound, which is essentially the same thing. All this bullshit text is just an excuse for not being able to explain how Yoda could possibly defend himself.

Where's the proof for this? It's a nice theory, but I don't see any proof.

Nihilus might be a wound himself, but wtf does that have to do with his drain? It's still a technique.

Originally posted by Darth Godzilla

And if you don't think that Yoda is a superior Force user, then look at this diagram.

Sidious > all pre-PT Sith (according to NEC)
II
Yoda > all pre-PT Jedi (according to RotS novelization)

Originally posted by Darth Godzilla

Nihilus IS a pre-PT Sith, which means that Sidious is more powerful than him. Yoda is equal to Sidious. Yoda is, by the transitive property, (I quote General Kenobi) a better Force-user than Nihilus.
And I doubt whoever was writing Power of the Jedi just said,
"Huh, yeah, duh, uh, wouldn't it be cool if we, uh, you know, just said for no reason that, uh, that little green guy, uhhh, what's his name? Oh yeah, Yoda, if we said that, uh, he had a defense for all darkside, uhh, what's that word... techniques!"

Originally posted by Darth Godzilla

No. They wrote it because Lucas agreed with it.
And don't throw that cr@p at me about Yoda not being able to block Sidious' lightning. Sidious is an equal Force user. Nihilus isn't. Unless George Lucas didn't think that Yoda really knew all darkside techniques and was just sh1tt1ng with us, I think that Yoda can almost definitely block Nihilus' drain.

The force drain technique itself was a technique of the ancient sith and learned on malachor V, but what Nihilus does is completely eat away at the force from living beings on such a level, that it's damn near illogical to have a defense for that.

Why? Why, especially after such problems with Nihilus, would the Order not work tod evelop something, especially with the Exile, Visas and former Sith?
Why would Yodanot be able to circumvent it when the Jedi of his era can disconnect from the Force at will and had contact with the Fallanassi before the Empire's rise.

Nihilus's drain is no different, just the reason for it

Originally posted by Kadesh
And by your logic, mace windu > yoda, Because why? He beat sidious whom yoda couldnt beat in saber combat, Does that make mace teh most uber jedi? No

Name and describe the technique, You ever heard of the fallanasi technique? Yoda might know that, but do we have any proof to say he has it? No, its just our opinions
Yoda can block lightning, but can he block a drain which destroyed mountains and strips human flesh right to the bone? Again this thing drains the force in you,

1. No. There is plenty of proof that Sidious was holding back when fighting Mace, I don't even want to get into that, though. Yoda is most definitely a greater Force-user than Nihilus, however.
2. THE TECHNIQUE DOESN'T HAVE A NAME! I came up with Bob, but that didn't catch on. So it's unnamed! SO WHAT? If you don't think Yoda has a defense for all darkside techniques up to that point in time (even though he might not be able to block them if they come from a more powerful Force-user), then take it up with the NEC. And if you don't think that Nihilus' drain is a darkside technique, well, uhh... I'm at a loss for words.

Could someone please elaborate on the whole looping in and out of the force thing?

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
The force drain technique itself was a technique of the ancient sith and learned on malachor V, but what Nihilus does is completely eat away at the force from living beings on such a level, that it's damn near illogical to have a defense for that.

It's damn near illogical for the Jedi, over 1000 years, to have not come up for a defense for it, just in case someone like Nihilus were to rise up.

how can they have come up with a defense against it, not thee force drain but nihilus force drain, have you heard of any other sith doing that drain of that magnatude if so please name him or her. That is the very point others have been saying the force drain is that a drain but nihilus force drain is a mega force drain. Yoda probably cant handle that sort of power, and from the feets ive seen nihilus is above yoda, being able to move his ship and stuff, yoda can move ships that are big too but he strained when he did it and he didnt even move them that much.

Yeah: Palpatine. Globally
And again: there's no difference to the drains, just the power and scale. And you whine so much about the feats you've seen....and Yoda didn't strain when he moved ships....or mountainsides. In fact, it was effortless..he didn't even strain when he carried a gun the size of a house on his back.

Please

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yeah: Palpatine. Globally
And again: there's no difference to the drains, just the power and scale. And you whine so much about the feats you've seen....and Yoda didn't strain when he moved ships....or mountainsides. In fact, it was effortless..he didn't even strain when he carried a gun the size of a house on his back.

Please

Oh yes lightsnake, because carrying a huge gun is somehow on the level of draining entire planets of the force. Great argument. Once again, if you can't prove he can block it(which you can't and won't), give it up. Because at this point it's more than illogical to assume he can.

Hm, maybe you should open your eyes and see I was responding to Mider!

And Yoda knows the defenses and probably the Fallanassi abilities.

BTW, we see Yoda strain, but there's no friggin way to tell if Nihilus is straining. Hell, he could have been on the verge of a heart attack when he pulled the Ravager out of orbit, and we wouldn't have seen anything to show it.
Just wanted to point that out.

Originally posted by Darth Godzilla
1. No. There is plenty of proof that Sidious was holding back when fighting Mace, I don't even want to get into that, though. Yoda is most definitely a greater Force-user than Nihilus, however.

Originally posted by Darth Godzilla

2. THE TECHNIQUE DOESN'T HAVE A NAME! I came up with Bob, but that didn't catch on. So it's unnamed! SO WHAT? If you don't think Yoda has a defense for all darkside techniques up to that point in time (even though he might not be able to block them if they come from a more powerful Force-user), then take it up with the NEC. And if you don't think that Nihilus' drain is a darkside technique, well, uhh... I'm at a loss for words.

@Darth sexy,

Me and lightsnake have been discussing this on Msn. We came with speculation that yoda could have met the fallanasi although we have no proof yet but it is a possibility because he has lived and studied for 900 years. Until we find proof, i dont think we can assume yoda does have the fallanasi technique

Have you even heard of the scepter of ragnos which can drain out force energies from various places? It doesnt drain life out of people but it sucks a place dry from the force.

Nihilus replicated this and brought it to a level strong enough to actually kill living organisms with this technique

Thats the difference between a Force drain and this technique.

Again if its just a simple useless drain, Why would kreia quote it as the greatest sith technique? Because it is different

Just like yesterday, lightsnake does not have an argument. Not even a valid one. It's PT or nothing. Come back when you're ready lightsnake.

Would you just SHUT UP?
You NEVER present an argument. You parrot, you moan, you insult, you make a fool out of yourself and you cannot make ANY argument. I'll take an Antediluvian above you any day, at least they have brains and arguments to back them up.
You're as bad as The Planet.

Now, Kadesh: Once again, it's simply a matter of scale and power. Given Nihilus's nature, he uses it a different way, but it's still the drain as seen in the cutscene. Traya does the same thing, if you recall

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Would you just SHUT UP?
You NEVER present an argument. You parrot, you moan, you insult, you make a fool out of yourself and you cannot make ANY argument. I'll take an Antediluvian above you any day, at least they have brains and arguments to back them up.
You're as bad as The Planet.

Now, Kadesh: Once again, it's simply a matter of scale and power. Given Nihilus's nature, he uses it a different way, but it's still the drain as seen in the cutscene. Traya does the same thing, if you recall

That's adorable dumbass. I claim you don't have an argument, and you throw back the "I know you are but what am I" insult. Thanks Glentract.. Let me guess "No whoops sorry you lose you brat blah blah blah wah wah wah". You have embarassed yourself today, you have embarassed yourself yesterday. I realize denial makes you throw your failures on others, but that's just sad. And of course you'll take an Antedelluvian over me, when it benefits you. Otherwise they will embarass you and send you packing for 6 months because you're an obnoxious little nerd who can't comprehend common sense. So lets try this again.
Me=argument
You=bitching and useless text which you can't back up. Understand yet, or are you going to start crying?