And why not? Yoda was familiar with the Wookies of Kashyyk, familiar with the royalty of Gannathan (King Empatojayos Brand), familiar with natives of Dathomir, was part of a Jedi vessel called the Chu'unthor which probably traveled to other plants for Jedi training, familiar with Thustra royalty (King Thustra). I don't see why he didn't visit the Fallanassi and learned stuff from them.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Again: The Fallanassi had their own society where they stayed on in one world: It's more likely Yoda arrived there. He didn't HAPPEN to meet one, he was well acquainted with their LEADER
Maybe, maybe not, yet as it stands, Yoda has no defense for Nihilus' attack. What you speak of is speculation. I happen to think there's no proof that he visited their homeworld and learned their force techniques.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Umm, YES there is: Because the STATIONARY society that does not leave their homeworld except in times of peril knew Yoda, who often visited other places to study the Force visited them and was well acquainted with them
You are SPECULATING that because he SAW a fallanassi once or twice and BECAUSE in his early age he visited planets, that the TWO are somehow connected because it somehow helps your case. It does NOT work that way lightsnake.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Once or Twice? He was a close friend of their leader and was well known to them!
This wasn't in early age, either. He'd have had to do it more than once.Want me to get Escape again?
Sure sure go ahead. Yet he himself said it was speculation. Meanwhile prove that he did it more than once. Of course you can't so you're going to speculate objectively. Also prove he was well known to them. Since you can't.... You see where this is going?
Originally posted by Lightsnake
It's speculation but it's GOOD speculation, it's LOGICAL speculation, it has logic backing it completely.Read between the lines.
No, you're taking something far fetched, adding in hypothetical situations in which your argument would be logical, and calling it "logical speculation".
I guess I'll post these two comments again in response to that:
And why not? Yoda was familiar with the Wookies of Kashyyk, familiar with the royalty of Gannathan (King Empatojayos Brand), familiar with natives of Dathomir, was part of a Jedi vessel called the Chu'unthor which probably traveled to other plants for Jedi training, familiar with Thustra royalty (King Alaric). I don't see why he didn't visit the Fallanassi and learned stuff from them.
And why not, they had considerable Force knowledge. Wouldn't Yoda, the scholor, the wise one, willing to be an apprentice, care to learn these techniques??
In response to the second quote, since Yoda knew the leader, wouldn't he go to the planet as well? You saw above, all the leaders of planets he knew, he visited and learned their ways.
I don't see why he didn't care to learn from the Fallanassi, especially he knew the leader and was willing to learn from FORCE users.
It's not "solid speculation". It is logical deduction. It isn't a canon fact that he went there and learned it, but there is an outrageous sum of evidence that supports it, DS. Yoda lived for 900 years. He was an avid traveler. He was a teacher. He lived solely to learn about the Force and pass it along to others. We know that he met up with the Fallanassi. To assume that he did not learn from them is completely unprecedented.
In the face of such strong logical points, I think that you should provide proof of why he wouldn't/didn't.
Originally posted by Gideon
It's not "solid speculation". It is logical deduction. It isn't a canon fact that he went there and learned it, but there is an outrageous sum of evidence that supports it, DS. Yoda lived for 900 years. He was an avid traveler. He was a teacher. He lived solely to learn about the Force and pass it along to others. We know that he met up with the Fallanassi. To assume that he did not learn from them is completely unprecedented.In the face of such strong logical points, I think that you should provide proof of why he wouldn't/didn't.
For starters, I could say that just because he came in contact with a fallanassi, doesn't mean he learned their techniques. I gave an example of Jacen Solo and Luke Skywalker. You can give many many examples of two force users coming in contact yet not learning each other's secrets. Not to mention there is no evidence showing that he DID visit the fallanassi. I'd like to see where it says he met up with the fallanassi, and not just saw 1 fallanassi somewhere. I think you're taking a far fetched idea and trying to turn it into logical deduction for your benefit.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
For starters, I could say that just because he came in contact with a fallanassi, doesn't mean he learned their techniques. I gave an example of Jacen Solo and Luke Skywalker. You can give many many examples of two force users coming in contact yet not learning each other's secrets. Not to mention there is no evidence showing that he DID visit the fallanassi. I'd like to see where it says he met up with the fallanassi, and not just saw 1 fallanassi somewhere. I think you're taking a far fetched idea and trying to turn it into logical deduction for your benefit.
Well, for starters, Luke was Jacen's mentor in the ways of the Force, so he did learn from him, regardless. Secondly, Lightsnake is very much correct: there's nothing to suggest that Yoda made frequent trips to their camp. Jacen and Luke met on a very regular basis, so I don't see what point you're trying to make.
In the cutscene fight between Darth Nihilus vs. Darth Sion, Sion comments that Nihilus wasn't even able to kill Darth Traya. Well, Yoda is stronger than Traya. We also saw Nihilus being able to do a simueltaneous Drain-Lightning-Wave attack. However, this Drain appeared an orange flame attacking the victim's chest area. As you can see, Nihilus could not use his Ultra Death Field in fear of destroying the Ravager itself. Thus, in an environment such as the Jedi Temple, this will be impossible.
Whilst the Force combo was killer, Yoda can easily dodge the attack and form a powerful Force Shield to counter the Drain. Point negated Nihilus supporters.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
That's entirely different....it's a bad analoy....No evidence? THEY MENTION RIGHT THERE YODA VISITED AND WAS A FRIEND OF WIALU.
You don't just randomly MEET THE LEADER. Especially when you're a traveller who visited many Force Sensitive societies....geez
Where does it say that Yoda visited Fallanassi? That is what you just stated is it not? You take the idea that he met 1 fallanassi and turn it into "He went to their planet and learned the looping technique". I dont think so.