Darth Nihilus vs. Yoda

how logical is it to assume that he did learn it? And how would you use this "logical speculation" as you call it, in this debate? And where does it say that he knew the Fallanassi well, and not just ran into one?

The Black Fleet trilogy shows Wialu and Yoda knew one another on a personal level.

It fits in with things, including Yoda's sojourns to Dathomir. Given Yoa's love of learning, it does fit in

Originally posted by Lightsnake
The Black Fleet trilogy shows Wialu and Yoda knew one another on a personal level.

It fits in with things, including Yoda's sojourns to Dathomir. Given Yoa's love of learning, it does fit in

Lightsnake you REALLY need to learn how to argue objectively, because while I like Yoda and think he pwns, it's very illogical for me to assume that just because he met 1 fallanassi, that he studied with the fallanassi and learned a specific technique. That's just unwarranted speculation.

Again: She was the leader of the Fallanassi. The implication is that he was with their society as a whole, too

Why is that an implication lightsnake? Does the society all travel together to places? Is there evidence of Yoda visiting their homeworld? No, it's all biased speculation that cannot be used in a logical debate.

Huh? The Fallanassi are a society that remained in one place until the Rise of the Empire....they're not exactly nomadic.

Well it's not like Yoda just goes around making friends, it's likely that Yoda sought the Fallanasi out (Lightsnake provided some good reasons why he would go out of his way to do so), studied under them, and from that, built a friendship with their leader.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Huh? The Fallanassi are a society that remained in one place until the Rise of the Empire....they're not exactly nomadic.

You are assuming Yoda visited their homeworld. What's more logical is he met a fallanassi somewhere. Again this is all speculation that can't be used in a debate. I can give plenty of examples of logical speculation but this isn't part of it.

How? Escape posted that, in his youth, Yoda was a great traveller. We know he met the Witches of Dathomir, and e know the Fallanassi knew him before they were nomadic.

What's more likely: The great traveller who loved knowledge and learning travelled to see the Fallanassi and buiilt up a friendship, or he ran into the LEADER somewhere else, when they're of a very stationary society?

Sexy, it's pretty unlikely that Yoda would have made friends with the leader of the Fallanasi without originally having sought them out for their teachings. Though, I suppose, there's always the chance that they were drinking buddies. 🙂

Originally posted by Lightsnake
How? Escape posted that, in his youth, Yoda was a great traveller. We know he met the Witches of Dathomir, and e know the Fallanassi knew him before they were nomadic.

What's more likely: The great traveller who loved knowledge and learning travelled to see the Fallanassi and buiilt up a friendship, or he ran into the LEADER somewhere else, when they're of a very stationary society? [/B]

Or he happened to meet a Fallanassi and...Yea that's it. See? I can make a speculation too. Yet at the end, there's still no evidence that Yoda can defend against Nihilus drain/consumption.

So, the grandmaster of the jedi order and the leader of a mysterious force organisation just randomly met, through coincidence? Right...

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
No, you are assuming Yoda met a fallanassi before they had travel capabilities, then you're assuming that he learned their force abilities. The second assumption is more logical than the first one but in the end they're both speculation and can't be used in a debate.

Or he happened to meet a Fallanassi and...Yea that's it. See? I can make a speculation too. Yet at the end, there's still no evidence that Yoda can defend against Nihilus drain/consumption.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
They always had travel capabilities. It's pointed out in no uncertain terms they are NOT travellers and were stationary until the Empire rose.
Learn that logical basis covers for speculation.

Which is likelier? Seriously now

Which is more likely you mean? I would say that he randomly met a Fallanassi and that is it. Logical basis covers LOGICAL speculation, based on logical deduction. What YOU are doing is biased speculation based on nothing. You're just throwing out random hypothetical situations that would make Yoda look better. That's BIAS lightsnake, when will you ever understand this?

Which is more likely you mean? I would say that he randomly met a Fallanassi and that is it.

Honestly? 🤨
Wow...

Um yea? What in the world makes you think he met 1 fallanassi, then traveled to their world, then learned the looping technique? Anymore ridiculous speculation? I suppose I should go ahead and say that Marka Ragnos knew all the ancient sith techniques because he was THE DLOTS of the ancient sith and all the techniques that were created, were created by them. See that illogical speculation?

I'm saying Yoda travelled to their world, at the time when they were friends to the Order and learned from them, as it's said he did before in the quote Escape provided.

This isn't ridiculous speculation. Shall we get other opinions?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
I'm saying Yoda travelled to their world, at the time when they were friends to the Order and learned from them, as it's said he did before in the quote Escape provided.

This isn't ridiculous speculation. Shall we get other opinions?

yes I think it's ridiculous speculation without ANY proof whatsoever. Bring Advent or Escape in.

Sexy, I'm not saying that Yoda knew the techniques. I'm saying that there is more evidence to support that he did know it than evidence that he didn't. The complete visual guide seems to make it quite clear that he traveled for centuries learning the ways of the Force. Considering how Yoda is a teacher first and foremost, it would be out of his character to not seek knowledge - like Sidious. Except, of course, he wouldn't conquer the galaxy or raze planets for the sake of it. 😛

So you are saying that because he traveled for centuries and happened to meet a Fallanassi, that it's more than likely he went to their home planet and learned their technique? I still find that far fetched speculation that doesn't help a debate.