The Spider-man vs Wolverine debate is nuts. I honestly cant imagine how people consistantly back Wolverine. Spidey has nearly every advantage. Hes ridiculously stronger. The dude can press 10 tons or more. Also the guy dodges bullets on a daily basis too. Can Wolverine punch faster than a speeding bullet? Doubtful. Anyone claiming that his healing factor and skeleton would keep him up might as well say that no one can ever beat Wolverine. I wont even mention their brief scuffle in the Secret Wars where Wolverine comments "Its a good thing he was just trying to get away and not really clobber us". Anyhow, Im giving this one to Spider-man. 9 out of 10 times.
Also anyone saying that Spidey doesnt have the durability to keep up with Wolverine really needs to read a Spider-man comic. The dude has taken BRUTAL beatings from everyone from Venom to Ironman and has managed to stay in the fight. I think its safe to say that Venom packs a bit more of a punch than Wolverine.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah, Wolverine certainly isn't a Fance Dan when it comes to speed. 🙄Difference between Spider-man's speed and Wolverine's is about the same as the difference between peanut M&Ms and peanut Smarties.
I think, no.
It's not Wolverine's speed that will get the wins here anyway.
Originally posted by redhotrash
The Spider-man vs Wolverine debate is nuts. I honestly cant imagine how people consistantly back Wolverine. Spidey has nearly every advantage. Hes ridiculously stronger. The dude can press 10 tons or more. Also the guy dodges bullets on a daily basis too. Can Wolverine punch faster than a speeding bullet? Doubtful. Anyone claiming that his healing factor and skeleton would keep him up might as well say that no one can ever beat Wolverine. I wont even mention their brief scuffle in the Secret Wars where Wolverine comments "Its a good thing he was just trying to get away and not really clobber us". Anyhow, Im giving this one to Spider-man. 9 out of 10 times.
Also anyone saying that Spidey doesnt have the durability to keep up with Wolverine really needs to read a Spider-man comic. The dude has taken BRUTAL beatings from everyone from Venom to Ironman and has managed to stay in the fight. I think its safe to say that Venom packs a bit more of a punch than Wolverine.
It would depend on if you were talking about "point A to point b" speed or punching and kicking speed? Since this isn't a foot race or pro agility drill, which one matters the most?
To me, SpiderMan has a tremendous(ridiculous) amount of strength, all he would have to do is: spar, going toe to toe, with Wolverine. Using his Spidey Sense, he would dodge or cover all the hard hits and then shoot or go for a hold...
Can SpiderMan "stick" to skin/flesh? I don't remember seeing if he ever did.
...Once SpiderMan has both hands on Wolverine, the fight should be over. SPIDERMAN IS REALLY REALLY STRONG. Considering Spidey is/was an avid wrestling fan, I'm sure he could put Wolverine in some sort of submission or just ground'n'pound him til a K.O.
If holds or submissions weren't allowed, Spidey could literally stick and move all day.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah, Wolverine certainly isn't a Fance Dan when it comes to speed. 🙄Difference between Spider-man's speed and Wolverine's is about the same as the difference between peanut M&Ms and peanut Smarties.
...Peanut Smarties? 😕
So we're going to Spidey's low showings now? In nearly every showing of Spider-Man, he's depicted as being FAAAAR faster than even peak humans. I mean, hell. He manages to dodge all FOUR of Doc Ock's tentacles, Lizard's attacks, Venom's attacks, Carnage, Morlun (not all the time, mind you), etc., etc. All people who are faster than Spidey.
Originally posted by SuperHNIC
It would depend on if you were talking about "point A to point b" speed or punching and kicking speed? Since this isn't a foot race or pro agility drill, which one matters the most?To me, SpiderMan has a tremendous(ridiculous) amount of strength, all he would have to do is: spar, going toe to toe, with Wolverine. Using his Spidey Sense, he would dodge or cover all the hard hits and then shoot or go for a hold...
Can SpiderMan "stick" to skin/flesh? I don't remember seeing if he ever did.
...Once SpiderMan has both hands on Wolverine, the fight should be over. SPIDERMAN IS REALLY REALLY STRONG. Considering Spidey is/was an avid wrestling fan, I'm sure he could put Wolverine in some sort of submission or just ground'n'pound him til a K.O.
If holds or submissions weren't allowed, Spidey could literally stick and move all day.
Good post. 👆 I definitely agree with the submission holds. Being LEAGUES stronger than Wolverine, if he grabs a hold of him, that pretty much seals it.
And yes, Spidey can "stick" to skin/flesh. He can pretty much stick any part of his body to most surfaces. He can even hang from his forehead or kneecaps if he wanted to.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Good post. 👆 I definitely agree with the submission holds. Being LEAGUES stronger than Wolverine, if he grabs a hold of him, that pretty much seals it.And yes, Spidey can "stick" to skin/flesh. He can pretty much stick any part of his body to most surfaces. He can even hang from his forehead or kneecaps if he wanted to.
When has Spidey ever stuck to flesh before? I thought that was one of the principle differences between him and the alternate Spidey, 'Kaine,' who actually ripped the flesh from people with his wall-crawling abilities.
Also, you under-estimated Wolverine's speed a post back. He's quite a bit faster than peak human, and many of their feats are comparable. 😬.
Is Wolverine as fast as Spiderman? No.
Is Wolverine standing still compared to Spiderman? Hell no.
Originally posted by Soljer
When has Spidey ever stuck to flesh before? I thought that was one of the principle differences between him and the alternate Spidey, 'Kaine,' who actually ripped the flesh from people with his wall-crawling abilities.Also, you under-estimated Wolverine's speed a post back. He's quite a bit faster than peak human, and many of their feats are comparable. 😬.
Is Wolverine as fast as Spiderman? No.
Is Wolverine standing still compared to Spiderman? Hell no.
"Standing still" was an exaggeration. Regardless, both on their good days, Spider-Man is much faster than Wolverine. Quite a bit faster than peak human? Dunno. Cap is peak human, and can run at 60 mph (I know this isn't "quickness" exactly, but it still works). I've never seen (save for that one scan capt it up feels he much show me all the time) Wolverine move that fast before, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt there.
During "The Other" arc, Spidey stuck trapped person onto his back so he could use his hands. He just put him there and his sticking ability did the rest. I see no reason as to why it wouldn't work skin-to-skin.
wait, this thread isn't done yet?
Spidey again 8/10
reasons: 1) Stick and Move, and punch hard, at ligaments
2) grabs and submission holds, using strength advantage
3) since this is WWE style? just grab him, stick him with wallcrawling abilities and stick himself over Wolvie, on the ground (as wierd and maybe homo as that sounds)
Originally posted by masterbruce
btw, what happened to the Spiderman versus Wolverine thread with 15,000 posts? can't seem to find it on search
Its probaly on about the 5th page now, its easy to find just keep looking at past pages and look at the post count, you'll know when you get to that thread lol.
Also I always considerd Wolverine a challenge for Spidey due to his claws, without them there is little risk of Spider-man being put down easily, and in the end Spidey could take some damage wait for an opening then just grab Wolverine wrsetle him to the ground then just hold him down, Wolverine won't be able to over power Spidey without the aid of his claws.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
"Standing still" was an exaggeration. Regardless, both on their good days, Spider-Man is much faster than Wolverine. Quite a bit faster than peak human? Dunno. Cap is peak human, and can run at 60 mph (I know this isn't "quickness" exactly, but it still works). I've never seen (save for that one scan capt it up feels he much show me all the time) Wolverine move that fast before, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt there.During "The Other" arc, Spidey stuck trapped person onto his back so he could use his hands. He just put him there and his sticking ability did the rest. I see no reason as to why it wouldn't work skin-to-skin.
Logan has plenty of feats where he does the like of swatting away bullets with his claws, or moving so fast that people can't track him, even disarming an entire team of trained soldiers who have their guns trained on him before they can get a shot off. 😬.
Spiderman's speed is a bit overhyped on these forums. As far as feats vs. feats go, he REALLY doesn't seem that many leagues faster than Captain America or Daredevil. Much less Wolverine.
Don't get me wrong, I still agree that Spiderman's faster. It just isn't the gap that some make it out to be.
Originally posted by Soljer
Logan has plenty of feats where he does the like of swatting away bullets with his claws, or moving so fast that people can't track him, even disarming an entire team of trained soldiers who have their guns trained on him before they can get a shot off. 😬.Spiderman's speed is a bit overhyped on these forums. As far as feats vs. feats go, he REALLY doesn't seem that many leagues faster than Captain America or Daredevil. Much less Wolverine.
Don't get me wrong, I still agree that Spiderman's faster. It just isn't the gap that some make it out to be.
I've been saying this for three years - maybe more - Spider-man fans just don't like to her it. 🙁
Originally posted by Soljer
Logan has plenty of feats where he does the like of swatting away bullets with his claws, or moving so fast that people can't track him, even disarming an entire team of trained soldiers who have their guns trained on him before they can get a shot off. 😬.Spiderman's speed is a bit overhyped on these forums. As far as feats vs. feats go, he REALLY doesn't seem that many leagues faster than Captain America or Daredevil. Much less Wolverine.
Don't get me wrong, I still agree that Spiderman's faster. It just isn't the gap that some make it out to be.
i agree, spidermans speed is rediculously overhyped on these fourms (sometiems) and it makes it seem like he is un-hittable. Dont get me wrong, spiderman is the most agile person in the MU, i agree, but hes not incorporeal. And wolverine is quick as well, wether you (not you) like him or not, he has compareable feats. Swatting bullets definately puts you in the leauge of tagging spiderman. And wolverine is a MUCH better fighter. Spiderman has his own style crafetd from his spider sense and agility, sure, but wolverine is just plain better. And since he doesnt have his claws, that rare martial side of him is more likely to come out.
So with that in mind, i can see wolverine winning a majority, slight or not, still a majority.