Spider-Man vs Wolverine: Slugfest

Started by jinzin22 pages

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Doubtful. If Punisher, Daredevil, Captain America, Deadpool, etc., etc. can lay sufficient damage on Wolverine with melee attacks, then Spider-Man can do it even better. Consecutive melee damage plus organ removal plus nut shots = a downed Wolverine. His healing factor can only take so much at once.
in turn, if punisher, cap and dd can lay sufficient damage on spiderman than wolverine can do better, no?

as far as nutshots go, it may work, bt considering that logan's already scored a nutshot on spidey and put him out of a fight, NUTSHOTS ALL AROUND! logan will get up, spidey won't.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
When Tigershark trapped Wolverine in a coral reef, Wolverine theorised that his healing factor would postponed his death and keep him in a perpetual state of drowning... which is never fun.
in an x-men classics issue, wolverine had his throat ripped out by sabretooth and was then tossed into a river, he stayed submerged for over an hour.

Originally posted by jinzin
in turn, if punisher, cap and dd can lay sufficient damage on spiderman than wolverine can do better, no?

as far as nutshots go, it may work, bt considering that logan's already scored a nutshot on spidey and put him out of a fight, NUTSHOTS ALL AROUND! logan will get up, spidey won't.

Nutshots all around?

😆

Sounds like you go to a bar "Nutshots for everyone! On the house!"

Incredible, consecutive swearing and screaming is heard following.

Originally posted by Soljer
Nutshots all around?

😆

Sounds like you go to a bar "Nutshots for everyone! On the house!"

Incredible, consecutive swearing and screaming is heard following.

hehe we only do that after drinking a galss o' burbon, a shot o' burbon, and a burbon chaser....

and yes, wolverine will hit spiderman, and when he does it will hurt spiderman... period.

Originally posted by jinzin
hehe we only do that after drinking a galss o' burbon, a shot o' burbon, and a burbon chaser....

and yes, wolverine will hit spiderman, and when he does it will hurt spiderman... period.

Was the second part directed at me? I certainly hope not. I was one of Wolverine's defenders in the thread....

no, not at all, I was just reflecting on a few posts i read a minute ago.. sorry about that.

Originally posted by jinzin
no, not at all, I was just reflecting on a few posts i read a minute ago.. sorry about that.

Oh. No worries.

Originally posted by jinzin
in turn, if punisher, cap and dd can lay sufficient damage on spiderman than wolverine can do better, no?

as far as nutshots go, it may work, bt considering that logan's already scored a nutshot on spidey and put him out of a fight, NUTSHOTS ALL AROUND! logan will get up, spidey won't.

The point of was not to say that Logan couldn't hurt Peter. I don't think anyone is arguing that. The point was that if other street levelers can overload Logan's healing factor than Spider-Man could also do it

Originally posted by marvelprince
The point of was not to say that Logan couldn't hurt Peter. I don't think anyone is arguing that. The point was that if other street levelers can overload Logan's healing factor than Spider-Man could also do it

Wait, when has ANY street leveller overloaded Logan's healing factor?

sorry, this post gives the illusion that wolverine won't really do much to spidey sans the claws.... i beg to differ...

Originally posted by Sparkz
Its probaly on about the 5th page now, its easy to find just keep looking at past pages and look at the post count, you'll know when you get to that thread lol.

Also I always considerd Wolverine a challenge for Spidey due to his claws, without them there is little risk of Spider-man being put down easily, and in the end Spidey could take some damage wait for an opening then just grab Wolverine wrsetle him to the ground then just hold him down, Wolverine won't be able to over power Spidey without the aid of his claws.

Originally posted by Soljer
Wait, when has ANY street leveller overloaded Logan's healing factor?
without weapons, prep, or an army? i'm not sure..

This thread is nuts. I'm reading that Spiderman is going to bruise and break his hands, but when I mentioned the same thing some time ago that spiderman would break his hands punching characters like the Hulk, Thing, etc,,,I was called crazy.

Anyways, what is Wolverine going to do if and when Spiderman gets ahold of him and chokes the air out of him? Let me answer that,,,,nothing. Spiderman is so much stronger than Wolverine there would be no hope of him breaking a submission hold. Yeah, it would take a long time to put him out, but it would happen eventually. To be honest, with the strength difference, Spiderman should be able to reach under Wolverines ribs and rip his lungs out. He then should just keep his hands there and continue to do damage.

Wolverine loses, but if the argument continues that he has a healing factor and that Spiderman could never keep him down,,,,,why have Wolverine threads? Its stupid how they have this character so jacked up. And people wonder why others feel bitterness towards Wolverine.

Originally posted by jinzin
without weapons, prep, or an army? i'm not sure..

Even with weapons (barring things like high-tech shield creations or Thanos' Thor-buster gun), I can't recall when a street leveller put Wolverine down for the count.

Originally posted by tkitna
This thread is nuts. I'm reading that Spiderman is going to bruise and break his hands, but when I mentioned the same thing some time ago that spiderman would break his hands punching characters like the Hulk, Thing, etc,,,I was called crazy.

Anyways, what is Wolverine going to do if and when Spiderman gets ahold of him and chokes the air out of him? Let me answer that,,,,nothing. Spiderman is so much stronger than Wolverine there would be no hope of him breaking a submission hold. Yeah, it would take a long time to put him out, but it would happen eventually. To be honest, with the strength difference, Spiderman should be able to reach under Wolverines ribs and rip his lungs out. He then should just keep his hands there and continue to do damage.

Wolverine loses, but if the argument continues that he has a healing factor and that Spiderman could never keep him down,,,,,why have Wolverine threads? Its stupid how they have this character so jacked up. And people wonder why others feel bitterness towards Wolverine.

Spiderman wouldn't break his hands or anything, but I don't think Wolverine is just going to let Spidey get a hold of him or put him in any kind of submission. After all, Wolverine has quite the experience and skill advantage over Spiderman. Any good jiu jitsu practitioner will tell you that strength, more often than not, means shit-all when compared to proper technique and experience.

I could see Logan catching Spiderman in a surprise armbar or omo plata a lot more realistically than vice versa.

Originally posted by tkitna
This thread is nuts. I'm reading that Spiderman is going to bruise and break his hands, but when I mentioned the same thing some time ago that spiderman would break his hands punching characters like the Hulk, Thing, etc,,,I was called crazy.
for one, wolverine's admantium skeleton is more durable than hulk, or thing....

two, a character with more durability than spiderman (sabretooth) broke his hand on wolverine already, warpath hurt himself hitting wolverine as well, it's no stretch to say that spiderman would break his hand, especially considering his lack of formal training.

Originally posted by tkitna
Anyways, what is Wolverine going to do if and when Spiderman gets ahold of him and chokes the air out of him? Let me answer that,,,,nothing.

that's some wishful thinking;
how about nerve shots, a kick to the balls, a simple punch to the face..

Originally posted by tkitna
Spiderman is so much stronger than Wolverine there would be no hope of him breaking a submission hold.

think about this fora moment, who's the street fighter and who's the trained fighter... does spiderman even know any good sumbission holds? pfft..

Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah, it would take a long time to put him out, but it would happen eventually.

not if it's spiderman throwing the punches, you seem to neglect the fact that spidey's already hit a calm wolverine with everything he had and it did nothing but knock the man down...

Originally posted by tkitna
To be honest, with the strength difference, Spiderman should be able to reach under Wolverines ribs and rip his lungs out. He then should just keep his hands there and continue to do damage.

for one, CIS,
for two, to get that close risks him getting hit in a sweet spot like logan didto cap in origins... and without the super soldier syrum to help him sustain, that wouldn't do well for spidey..

Originally posted by tkitna
Wolverine loses,
again, wishful thinking....

Originally posted by jinzin
for one, wolverine's admantium skeleton is more durable than hulk, or thing....

Well to be honest when we're making a comparison using Spidermans bone structure as the catalyst here, is this fraction of durablity going to make a difference? I wouldnt think the hide of a character that can resist nuclear bombs should be in question.

character with more durability than spiderman (sabretooth) broke his hand on wolverine already, warpath hurt himself hitting wolverine as well, it's no stretch to say that spiderman would break his hand, especially considering his lack of formal training.

I agree that Spiderman would and should break his hand. It was a point I was trying to make in an earlier debate a while ago, but i'll drop it from here on out.

some wishful thinking;
how about nerve shots, a kick to the balls, a simple punch to the face..

With what or how? Remember, Wolverine is being held in a submission hold by a character that is at least 10 times stronger than he is. I dont think Wolverine is going to be able to do any of that when his limbs are being held.

bout this fora moment, who's the street fighter and who's the trained fighter... does spiderman even know any good sumbission holds? pfft..

I'm sure a character that is faster and stronger would be able to hold a lesser character in some sort of hold. Have you ever a wrestled a friend that could kick your butt, but you've got him into a hold he couldnt get out of? I have.

it's spiderman throwing the punches, you seem to neglect the fact that spidey's already hit a calm wolverine with everything he had and it did nothing but knock the man down...

I was talking about a submission hold. Who said anything about throwing punches?

, CIS,
for two, to get that close risks him getting hit in a sweet spot like logan didto cap in origins... and without the super soldier syrum to help him sustain, that wouldn't do well for spidey..

So Spidey isnt more durable, stronger, and faster than Cap? We wont even bring the spider-sense into it. As for CIS, I was just listing a way that Spidey could win. Isnt that the point of this?

, wishful thinking....

Its only wishful thinking that somebody could actually admit that Wolverine could lose a fight around here sometime.

Originally posted by Soljer
Wait, when has ANY street leveller overloaded Logan's healing factor?

Wait. You seriously can't think of a time where Wolverine has been beaten by a street leveler?

Originally posted by Soljer
Spiderman wouldn't break his hands or anything, but I don't think Wolverine is just going to let Spidey get a hold of him or put him in any kind of submission. After all, Wolverine has quite the experience and skill advantage over Spiderman. Any good jiu jitsu practitioner will tell you that strength, more often than not, means shit-all when compared to proper technique and experience.

I could see Logan catching Spiderman in a surprise armbar or omo plata a lot more realistically than vice versa.

No matter how skilled you are a six year old aint beating a grown man in wrestling

Originally posted by marvelprince
Wait. You seriously can't think of a time where Wolverine has been beaten by a street leveler?

No matter how skilled you are a six year old aint beating a grown man in wrestling

A six year old hasn't trained for decades to hone his skill.

If the six year old had the skill of Sakuraba, Gracie, or etc, then he'd absolutely beat an untrained grown man.

No doubt.

Also, I didn't ask "When has Wolverine been 'taken out' by a street leveller, but when has his healing factor been put into over drive? Name a time.

It took magneto ripping out Logan's adamantium to tax his healing factor. When has a street leveller ever done an equivalent amount of damage?

Originally posted by Soljer
A six year old hasn't trained for decades to hone his skill.

If the six year old had the skill of Sakuraba, Gracie, or etc, then he'd absolutely beat an untrained grown man.

No doubt.

Also, I didn't ask "When has Wolverine been 'taken out' by a street leveller, but when has his healing factor been put into over drive? Name a time.

It took magneto ripping out Logan's adamantium to tax his healing factor. When has a street leveller ever done an equivalent amount of damage?

What I said wasn't meant to be taken literally (I apologize if I wasnt clear). I meant he's been taken out by street levelers.

And you miss the point of the comparison. You can have someone who's trained for decades but against someone who's leagues above them in the strength and speed department it won't do much good

Originally posted by marvelprince
What I said wasn't meant to be taken literally (I apologize if I wasnt clear). I meant he's been taken out by street levelers.

And you miss the point of the comparison. You can have someone who's trained for decades but against someone who's leagues above them in the strength and speed department it won't do much good

True, as far as speed goes. But strength means little to the types of fighters in comics.

And, as has been discussed, Spiderman's speed is over-rated on these forums. He's absolutely faster than Wolverine...

But it's not like comparing a grown man to a six year old.

It's more like comparing the winning olympic runner against the losing olympic runner. They're in the same race, one just finishes it first.