Originally posted by inamilist
I'm with you on this 100%Though, the environment and starting conditions would play a major factor in the outcome
Possibly. Say its in the jungle. I do believe that would up Panthers odds a bit, but hed still may lose in the end imo. Bullseye is the no.2 assassin in the world.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Possibly. Say its in the jungle. I do believe that would up Panthers odds a bit, but hed still may lose in the end imo. Bullseye is the no.2 assassin in the world.
lol
ya, But if it were a cage match or they started at very close range imho it would be a little less favorable bullseye.
I guess I am assuming that if BP gets in close he is going to be able to end it fairly quick, but bullseye is a Daredevil enemy, so he can probably hold his own.
7/10 for bullseye is probably good, but imho that could be pushed to an even split if the conditions were set more in BPs favor.
Originally posted by inamilist
lolya, But if it were a cage match or they started at very close range imho it would be a little less favorable bullseye.
I guess I am assuming that if BP gets in close he is going to be able to end it fairly quick, but bullseye is a Daredevil enemy, so he can probably hold his own.
7/10 for bullseye is probably good, but imho that could be pushed to an even split if the conditions were set more in BPs favor.
Hmmm. I dont know. To be honest, i think the further apart they are, the better for Panther. Bullseye is very quick on the draw and the more time Panther gets to see the projectile, the better for him. Even in h2h combat i think they may be even more or less(giving BE the slight edge). Although Bullseye did hold is own against Daredevil and Elektra at the same time. And has made Captain America struggle against him.
Id actually would like to see this fight in a comic. Maybe with the new Thunderbolts crew, we might get the chance.😄
Originally posted by jrodslam
Hmmm. I dont know. To be honest, i think the further apart they are, the better for Panther. Bullseye is very quick on the draw and the more time Panther gets to see the projectile, the better for him. Even in h2h combat i think they may be even more or less(giving BE the slight edge). Although Bullseye did hold is own against Daredevil and Elektra at the same time. And has made Captain America struggle against him.Id actually would like to see this fight in a comic. Maybe with the new Thunderbolts crew, we might get the chance.😄
hmmm... DD and elektra.... respect bullseye!
It would be a damn good fight, lol. *fingers crossed for thunderbolts*
Originally posted by jrodslam
Hmmm. I dont know. To be honest, i think the further apart they are, the better for Panther. Bullseye is very quick on the draw and the more time Panther gets to see the projectile, the better for him. Even in h2h combat i think they may be even more or less(giving BE the slight edge). Although Bullseye did hold is own against Daredevil and Elektra at the same time. And has made Captain America struggle against him.Id actually would like to see this fight in a comic. Maybe with the new Thunderbolts crew, we might get the chance.😄
i kinda agree,
As far as this fight goes, i think Bullseye wins as well, but on the other hand if it were h2h BP would absolutely win
Bullseye is no slouch, but in reality, hes not up their with any of the mu fighters. He can hold his own against some but he usually gets his anus beat after a decent struggle. He did hold up against elektra and DD recently but it wasnt for too long and DD has shamed Bullseye on a few occassians. ANyways, BP isint as skilled as DD h2h, but i think if it came down to it it wouldent be much of a problem for him to overcome Bullseye
but like i said, as far as this fight goes, its kinda in Bullseye's favor, and bullseye is a madman with projectiles.
Originally posted by inamilist
hmmm... DD and elektra.... respect bullseye!It would be a damn good fight, lol. *fingers crossed for thunderbolts*
Damn right. He never actually BEAT Daredevil and Elektra at the same time, but he held his own.
And I think he's beat Elektra in hand to hand combat once or twice. Bullseye is pretty good.
And Daredevil is easily Black Panther's superior in the skills department, even if he isn't as physically able.
Bullseye is definitely winning the majority here.
Originally posted by Soljer
Damn right. He never actually BEAT Daredevil and Elektra at the same time, but he held his own.And I think he's beat Elektra in hand to hand combat once or twice. Bullseye is pretty good.
And Daredevil is easily Black Panther's superior in the skills department, even if he isn't as physically able.
Bullseye is definitely winning the majority here.
well said
Bp is also one of the top h2h combatants in the MU. DD himself said that the only guy who could impersonate him was BP. For whatever reason everyone keeps saying BP is not as skilled as "WHATEVER CHARACTER THEY LIKE BETTER" when in reality BP is just right there next to DD, Cap, Iron Fist and all the other great fighter on the MU.
Originally posted by Francisco
Bp is also one of the top h2h combatants in the MU. DD himself said that the only guy who could impersonate him was BP. For whatever reason everyone keeps saying BP is not as skilled as "WHATEVER CHARACTER THEY LIKE BETTER" when in reality BP is just right there next to DD, Cap, Iron Fist and all the other great fighter on the MU.
As far as raw Martial ability goes? Daredevil DEFINATELY, has a good margin over BP. Not to discrdit bp, but daredevil is extremely adept.
Its not about favorites, that sjust how it is. And Iron fist has impersonated DD before, and so could taskmaster. so that statement is pertty much irrelevant
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
As far as raw Martial ability goes? Daredevil DEFINATELY, has a good margin over BP. Not to discrdit bp, but daredevil is extremely adept.Its not about favorites, that sjust how it is. And Iron fist has impersonated DD before, and so could taskmaster. so that statement is pertty much irrelevant
Says who... A couple of fanboys on a message board? I'm going for what the comics have to say and they say BP is among the greatest MArtist the MU. He bellongs to the small elite that includes Cap America, Iron Fist, Dare Devil and few others. BP is Cap America with the technicall knowledge of Tony Stark. He is a warrior king and scientist.
Originally posted by Francisco
Says who... A couple of fanboys on a message board? I'm going for what the comics have to say and they say BP is among the greatest MArtist the MU. He bellongs to the small elite that includes Cap America, Iron Fist, Dare Devil and few others. BP is Cap America with the technicall knowledge of Tony Stark. He is a warrior king andd scientist.
No ones even being hostile about it
Anyways, BP is up thier with the better martial artists in the MU, but when i reflect on who really is the greatest martial artists in MU, Bp tends to fall towards the end of that list. His strengths lie in other areas that enhance his "skill", but strictly fighting ability? thiers a decent ammount of people before him. Sure, thats my opinion, but its not at all far-fetched.
Oh come on! I could start a thread about BP vs Aunt Mae and a lot of folks would say Aunt Mae wins and they wouldn't be kidding.
Perhaps the writers tend to focus more on BP scientific and political genius but at his core a warrior is what he truly is. Remember that in order to stay in power the Panther must battle all the stronger warriors of Wakanda. They can challenge him at any time so He has to be prepared to fight at all hours.
A man like him won't be beaten by a punk who can throw things.
Originally posted by Francisco
Oh come on! I could start a thread about BP vs Aunt Mae and a lot of folks would say Aunt Mae wins and they wouldn't be kidding.Perhaps the writers tend to focus more on BP scientific and political genius but at his core a warrior is what he truly is. Remember that in order to stay in power the Panther must battle all the stronger warriors of Wakanda. They can challenge him at any time so He has to be prepared to fight at all hours.
A man like him won't be beaten by a punk who can throw things.
Then maybe you dont know a whole lot about bullseye. Maybe its just me, but splitting someones skull in half with a toothpick is pertty darn impressive, and puts you in the leauge (given this scneario) to handle business.
Indeed. Black Panther is a great combatant, but as far as raw skills go, he is one notch below the likes of Captain America, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Wolverine. He's a technical genius, but he's one notch below the likes of Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Doom. He's a political genius, but he's one notch below the likes of Lex Luthor.
T'Challa is more of a jack of all trades, than the master of all trades you're trying to make him out to be.
Also, Bullseye could hold his own hand to hand with the Panther. He'd definitely lose a majority, but he'd hold his own.
Giving him projectiles and distance just ensures T'Challa's death.
Originally posted by Francisco
Maybe is just me but been able to dodge lasers, bullets and catch arrows at mid flight is darn impressive , and puts you in the league.Black Panther was doing things like that way before he had the vibranium suit. Why can't he do it now according to the haters/fanboys is beyond me.
Again, ironicly using the "f" word again.
Is their even such thing as a Bullseye fanboy?
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Again, ironicly using the "f" word again.
Is their even such thing as a Bullseye fanboy?
😆 Good point.
And Francisco, I don't see why you are getting so angry or inflamed about this. No one is hating on T'Challa. They are just putting him where he rightfully belongs. 😬.
I've read multiple (very well-made) T'Challa respect threads, and have read many of his comics. Not much of anything to really indicate that he is quite on Daredevil's level when martial skill comes to the table.
Is he close? Certainly. Would he win a majority of the fights? Perhaps. But not due to skill - due to the heart-shaped herb and his equipment.
They may not be Bullseye fanboys but they surely are BP haters. Look at Soljer. He ilustrates perfectly the kind of thinking I'm talking about. To him BP is and will always be a second stringer. To those with that mindset the idea of BP standing side by side with Tony Stark as technical genius is ludicrous despite the fact that BP just outsmarted and literaly dismantled Iron Man's battle armor. To him BP will always be a notch bellow any other Marvel or DC character. Hell, the fact that BP got the better off Karnak with just one punch and took out an enraged and upped Iron Fist means nothing. In his mind BP is simply a notch bellow everyone.