Bullseye VS Black Panther

Originally posted by Francisco
They may not be Bullseye fanboys but they surely are BP haters. Look at Soljer. He ilustrates perfectly the kind of thinking I'm talking about. To him BP is and will always be a second stringer. To those with that mindset the idea of BP standing side by side with Tony Stark as technical genius is ludicrous despite the fact that BP just outsmarted and literaly dismantled Iron Man's battle armor. To him BP will always be a notch bellow any other Marvel or DC character. Hell, the fact that BP got the better off Karnak with just one punch and took out an enraged and upped Iron Fist means nothing. In his mind BP is simply a notch bellow everyone.

Ok

now im starting to wonder if your even being serious

??
im confused.
Colossus will always be 2nd string to mindless hulk.
Black bolt will alwyas be 2nd string to silver surfer

some characters (power wise) just arent as good as others.

I dont get it. SOljer merely (and educatedly) put black panther in perspective with other mu characters. No "fanboyism" or favoritism detected. BP is a beast, but he has his limites given some scenarios.

Spooky post man.

Originally posted by Francisco
They may not be Bullseye fanboys but they surely are BP haters. Look at Soljer. He ilustrates perfectly the kind of thinking I'm talking about. To him BP is and will always be a second stringer. To those with that mindset the idea of BP standing side by side with Tony Stark as technical genius is ludicrous despite the fact that BP just outsmarted and literaly dismantled Iron Man's battle armor. To him BP will always be a notch bellow any other Marvel or DC character. Hell, the fact that BP got the better off Karnak with just one punch and took out an enraged and upped Iron Fist means nothing. In his mind BP is simply a notch bellow everyone.

What is this about a mindset? Jeez man, its not a conspiracy against your favorite character, chill out.

Everyone has high end feats, BP included, he is a great h2h master, and everyone has given him the majority in a h2h situation.

However, just because we think bullseye would take a majority in this thread scenario (which is stacked against BP to begin with) doesnt mean we don't like him. This isnt a matter of taste.

Also, Black Panther took a mind controlled Iron Fist. And got owned for his troubles.

And he knocked out Karnak under Hudlin. Nuff said.

Don't start overrating a character just because you happen to like him. THAT'S how fanboys are made.

Originally posted by inamilist
What is this about a mindset? Jeez man, its not a conspiracy against your favorite character, chill out.

Everyone has high end feats, BP included, he is a great h2h master, and everyone has given him the majority in a h2h situation.

However, just because we think bullseye would take a majority in this thread scenario (which is stacked against BP to begin with) doesnt mean we don't like him. This isnt a matter of taste.

Cosigned.

You seriously need to chill, Francis.

Yes, man I'm being quite serious about this. My take on what Soljer said stand correct. He made quite clear that to him BP was a second stringer to everyone in the comicdome. Yeah I bet he thinks BP can take a couple of thugs in an alley but when it comes to the big players according to Soljer and those who think like him BP just don't cut it.

Originally posted by Francisco
Yes, man I'm being quite serious about this. My take on what Soljer said stand correct. He made quite clear that to him BP was a second stringer to everyone in the comicdome. Yeah I bet he thinks BP can take a couple of thugs in an alley but when it comes to the big players according to Soljer and those who think like him BP just don't cut it.

allright, you have officially lost your mind

/disgussion

Originally posted by Francisco
Yes, man I'm being quite serious about this. My take on what Soljer said stand correct. He made quite clear that to him BP was a second stringer to everyone in the comicdome. Yeah I bet he thinks BP can take a couple of thugs in an alley but when it comes to the big players according to Soljer and those who think like him BP just don't cut it.

He's a second stringer the same way BATMAN is.

Batman isn't the BEST escape artist. He isn't the BEST fighter. He isn't the BEST acrobat.

But he's damned high on the list for each of these. Same goes for T'Challa.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
allright, you have officially lost your mind

/disgussion

*discussion.

But, co-signed.

Originally posted by Francisco
Yes, man I'm being quite serious about this. My take on what Soljer said stand correct. He made quite clear that to him BP was a second stringer to everyone in the comicdome. Yeah I bet he thinks BP can take a couple of thugs in an alley but when it comes to the big players according to Soljer and those who think like him BP just don't cut it.

nobody said BP was second to everyone...

all he said was:

In fighting he is just behind the top tiers like cap, wolv, DD, chi ect.

In technical geniuss he is just behind Reed, Doom and Stark, who are the top tier.

In politics he is behind Luthor, and probably the best geopolitical strategist on Marvel Earth (fury has to be up there...)

So, as opposed to being "second string to everyone" he is a character who is ALMOST top tier in ever single category mentioned. Very few characters are as well rounded, and the top tiers are very RARELY this well rounded. There are litterally tens of thousands of characters who fall well below BP.

However, in this scenario, bullseye is not one of them

Originally posted by Francisco
They may not be Bullseye fanboys but they surely are BP haters. Look at Soljer. He ilustrates perfectly the kind of thinking I'm talking about. To him BP is and will always be a second stringer. To those with that mindset the idea of BP standing side by side with Tony Stark as technical genius is ludicrous despite the fact that BP just outsmarted and literaly dismantled Iron Man's battle armor. To him BP will always be a notch bellow any other Marvel or DC character. Hell, the fact that BP got the better off Karnak with just one punch and took out an enraged and upped Iron Fist means nothing. In his mind BP is simply a notch bellow everyone.

Dawg, you're talking like being able to combat the likes of cap and DD is nothing... Noone has attacked BP. He is as good as he is because when he faces someone superior in one way, he makes sure to be better in another. Think about him taking down sabertooth last year. He's not quite as strong, but he won that fight, no?
Soljer is quite right. BP is not Cap in terms of fighting. Nor does he even rank with the top creams in terms of iq, speed, resourcefulness, etc... What makes him able to fight Cap or guys like Apoc or Doom is the fact that hes everything. Strong fast smart, resourceful, etc... He's not number 1 at anything, but hes waay high at everything.
So chill out and stop calling people fanboys.
I think that BP wins, btw, if he plays it smart. 6/10 bp

maybe this will calm you down fransisco

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4838/109bu.jpg

a nice BP showing for you

Originally posted by inamilist
There are litterally tens of thousands of characters who fall well below BP.

However, in this scenario, bullseye is not one of them

Really? Let's see. According to the rules Bp has the uper side of his body all covered up on vibranium fabric so BE can really do any damage cause the vib would absorb the momentum off everything he throws above the waist. Bp has to daggers and a Katana which he can use to deflect anything BE throws at his legs. BP is way faster and more agile than BE so he can close the distance making the fight Hand 2 hand where he doesn't have a prayer beating BP.

BP wins 9/10.

By the way Iron Fist wasn't just mind controlled he was also bloodlusted amped up and going all out while BP was reasoning with him. If BP would have wanted he could have killed IF at any moment. Plus the Karnak ownage comes from long time ago way before Hudlin. BP has been always superior to Karnak.

Iron Fist would school Black Panther in a fight if he was in his right mind. He can amp himself with Chi to spiderman-level speeds, and can punch through steel girders without the Iron Fist. Danny can't really be compared to any normal street levellers

Also, the vibranium suit CAN be cut, so long as you cut along the grain, which bullseye is more than capable of doing with an ADAMANTIUM or VIBRANIUM knife.

No problem.

Originally posted by Soljer
Iron Fist would school Black Panther in a fight if he was in his right mind. He can amp himself with Chi to spiderman-level speeds, and can punch through steel girders without the Iron Fist. Danny can't really be compared to any normal street levellers

Also, the vibranium suit CAN be cut, so long as you cut along the grain, which bullseye is more than capable of doing with an ADAMANTIUM or VIBRANIUM knife.

No problem.

yes, key words, adamantium and VIBRANIUM

Bullseye could probably throw it THROUGH his leg, sliceing it off completely.

yes, Bullseye is that scary franscicso.
you shuold read daredevil. amazing comic.
the best ive ever read. (the newer ones i mean)

it doesn't matter if it is adamantium or vibranium. The fabric would drain the momentum of the daggers and knives. It's just that simple. To cut the suit BE should have to go hand2hand with BP and he will lose.

it doesn't matter if it is adamantium or vibranium. The fabric would drain the momentum of the daggers and knives. It's just that simple. To cut the suit BE should have to go hand2hand with BP and he will lose.

IRON Fist was going all out and BP took everything and still beat him up. Iron Fist did all what you said. HE was punching throw steel and concrete but BP dodge everything while ditching lots of punishment. I have the scan I'll if I can show them later.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
yes, key words, adamantium and VIBRANIUM

Bullseye could probably throw it THROUGH his leg, sliceing it off completely.

yes, Bullseye is that scary franscicso.
you shuold read daredevil. amazing comic.
the best ive ever read. (the newer ones i mean)

Killing someone with his tooth?

Throwing a toothpick between buildings, and THROUGH a pane of glass and killing someone with it?

A half broken, chewed on toothpick. Across a busy street. Through a pane of glass. And killing someone?

Yeah, Bullseye needs a bit more respect. Captain America only survives his projectiles because of his shield. Daredevil only survives because his radar sense allows him to know where the projectile will be headed before hand. Spiderman can only survive because of his spider sense.

Hell, Bullseye has knocked Daredevil out with a PAPER AIRPLANE before.

Show the man some props. He isn't some 'thug throwing things.'

Originally posted by Francisco
it doesn't matter if it is adamantium or vibranium. The fabric would drain the momentum of the daggers and knives. It's just that simple. To cut the suit BE should have to go hand2hand with BP and he will lose.

IRON Fist was going all out and BP took everything and still beat him up. Iron Fist did all what you said. HE was punching throw steel and concrete but BP dodge everything while ditching lots of punishment. I have the scan I'll if I can show them later.

That wasn't Danny in his right mind, and he obviously wasn't amping the way he is capable of if T'Challa was anywhere near able to keep up with him. Danny's chi-amped speed and strength are out of T'Challa's league. Not to mention Danny's skill advantage.

Originally posted by Soljer
Killing someone with his tooth?

Throwing a toothpick between buildings, and THROUGH a pane of glass and killing someone with it?

A half broken, chewed on toothpick. Across a busy street. Through a pane of glass. And killing someone?

Yeah, Bullseye needs a bit more respect. Captain America only survives his projectiles because of his shield. Daredevil only survives because his radar sense allows him to know where the projectile will be headed before hand. Spiderman can only survive because of his spider sense.

Hell, Bullseye has knocked Daredevil out with a PAPER AIRPLANE before.

Show the man some props. He isn't some 'thug throwing things.'

LOL, well said

as i have said before, truthfully, you need some sort of superior agility, shielding or precog or sheer luck to avoid getting killed or hurt by bullseye.

Heck, daredevil even had to save elektras life recnetly from getting her throat slit by a card thrown by bullseye unexpectedly

Originally posted by jrodslam
Wow. Am i the only one who thinks this fight is lopsided? Black Panther doesnt show to be DD's equal in h2h and Bullseye at times gives him a run for his money. His agility is also slightly lower than DD's and his aim/accuracy/force is unmatched. Like someone already stated, Panthers suit can be penetrated if cut along the seams. Giving him Adamantium and Vibranium weapons seems a bit overkill imo.

Bullseye 7/10.

Still don't see it. T'Challa is one of the best martial artists as well. Hell, he's pretty much on par with Cap. And BP's agility is slightly better than DD's. As well as his speed being superior to DD's. (By the way, I'm not taking anything away from DD, I think he's also extremely skilled).

As good as Bullseye is in hand-to-hand fighting, BP would still humiliate him.

I know that BP's suit can be cut along the seams, but does Bullseye know that? 🙄 Probably not.

Originally posted by inamilist
I'm with you on this 100%

Though, the environment and starting conditions would play a major factor in the outcome

IF this starts in the Jungle, then Black Panther wins everytime. 😐