Keeper is not under Thanos.
He beat the hell out of Galactus ... weakened state or not, Thanos has never shown that level of power without some cosmic add-ons.
And so what if Galactus beat him later ... it was immediately after he'd just ate a planet.... there's no way you can be using that to say he's less than Thanos.
Originally posted by Scoobless
Keeper is not under Thanos.He beat the hell out of Galactus ... weakened state or not, Thanos has never shown that level of power without some cosmic add-ons.
And so what if Galactus beat him later ... it was immediately after he'd just ate a planet.... there's no way you can be using that to say he's less than Thanos.
"You could have never done this if I was not in such debilitated state." Galactus has NEVER, in any continuity, been that weak. If one blasts takes him out (blast that can't be above Quasar/Surfer since Surfer is identical to the 616 one and has the exact same bands)
Thanos is already able to do this to Galactus that that was not like 1/10000th of his power:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1365/energy291ol2.jpg
Was able to have mental battle for pages against Galactus of same power:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9950/energy281yz9.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4827/energy282jp2.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4483/energy283sy8.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4251/energy284sb8.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8898/energy285od2.jpg
Was able to, with his forcefield, take powerful blast from Galactus (Whereas Keeper got taken down with ease):
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6706/energy31uw6.jpg
Was able to shield people from being that was STRONGER then Galactus:
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5219/energy25iz7.jpg
Was able to hurt the said being with a blast:
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1275/energy26rt2.jpg
Was able to survive attack from the same being (which was FAR stronger attack then the one against Keeper):
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3969/durability71an1.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7756/durability72rw7.jpg
Keeper still has offensive and defensive power less then Thanos. Those were just direct Galactus comparisions, I have entire Respect thread worth of Thanos stuff to prove my point.
Keeper is under Thanos.
I agree that Keeper is under Thanos.
But isn't he, more or less, Surfer with the Quantum bands? Or am I mistaken?
Wouldn't that be like trying to draft "Superman with a Green Lantern ring," and arguing that he's still under Thanos level?
Wouldn't the keeper make anyone that drafter the Surfer or Quasar at an INCREDIBLE - RIDICULOUS - INTENSE disadvantage?
Meh.
I'm surprised no one drafted exiles' Surfer. He was a bit intense.
Originally posted by Soljer
I agree that Keeper is under Thanos.But isn't he, more or less, Surfer with the Quantum bands? Or am I mistaken?
Wouldn't that be like trying to draft "Superman with a Green Lantern ring," and arguing that he's still under Thanos level?
Wouldn't the keeper make anyone that drafter the Surfer or Quasar at an INCREDIBLE - RIDICULOUS - INTENSE disadvantage?
Meh.
I'm surprised no one drafted exiles' Surfer. He was a bit intense.
He's had the bands for years and multiple comics, they are part of his character as much as they are to the likes of Quasar or Marvel Boy.
By the way, here is Keeper getting beaten by Galactus who is at his normal levels.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1193/guardiansofthegalaxy250pl3.jpg
The weakened Galactus, by the way, had not fed for five hundred years, so he was VERY weak.
The timeframe between the first meeting of Keeper and Guardians and second meeting is five hundred years, wasn't it. After the first meeting Keeper went against Galactus, but got pwned. I'm pretty sure it was stated that Galactus had not fed since that meeting (something about him never having a herald again - and heralds find the planets for him, right?).
I can be wrong, though, but it was obvious that the Galactus showed there was REALLY weak.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
By the way, here is Keeper getting beaten by Galactus who is at his normal levels.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1193/guardiansofthegalaxy250pl3.jpg
Normal? his normal showings are when "the hunger is upon him" ... that scans was immediately after he'd eaten a freakin' planet .... he'd have done the same or worse to Thanos at that level.
Originally posted by Scoobless
Normal? his normal showings are when "the hunger is upon him" ... that scans was immediately after he'd eaten a freakin' planet .... he'd have done the same or worse to Thanos at that level.
Still doesn't take away all the other Thanos stuff I posted against Galactus and stronger version of Galactus. And Thanos defenitely would not have been owned by a flick of an finger. Keeper is still under Thanos.
Do I need to collect all the showings of weakened Thanos to prove this? I remember guys like FF hurting him while he is weak...
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerHow is he hurt?
Was able to hurt the said being with a blast:
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1275/energy26rt2.jpg
"annoyance"
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
At least Quasar level. He was taught by Aron to their full potential, I remember it being said...Quasar is probably a bit stronger, though, considering the feats he has done (like beating four previous QB wearers at once), but not far stronger, I would assume.
Wait, isn't this the SILVER SURFER with the Quantum Bands? Not Norrin Radd with the Quantum Bands? Unless I'm mistaken, doesn't he have the entirety of the quantum zone PLUS power cosmic at his disposal?
Originally posted by Soljer
Wait, isn't this the SILVER SURFER with the Quantum Bands? Not Norrin Radd with the Quantum Bands? Unless I'm mistaken, doesn't he have the entirety of the quantum zone PLUS power cosmic at his disposal?
Yes...that is the character I have been talking about all the time. I was talking about when it comes to Quantum Bands, him and Quasar are about same in using them (Quasar is probably better). Not overall power.
Still doesn't put him above Thanos, if you want to start comparing feats.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yes...that is the character I have been talking about all the time. I was talking about when it comes to Quantum Bands, him and Quasar are about same in using them (Quasar is probably better). Not overall power.Still doesn't put him above Thanos, if you want to start comparing feats.
Oh! In his quantum band proficiency, sure. But when you stack Surfer's power on top of that...you're basically getting two herald levellers in one.
It's smart picking, because I'd agree that the Keeper is still right under Thanos, but it's kinda cheap at the same time.
