Originally posted by Soljeri Agree, this is quasar+Surfer, and i feel like it is atleast equal to Thanos, its 2 heralds in one.
Oh! In his quantum band proficiency, sure. But when you stack Surfer's power on top of that...you're basically getting two herald levellers in one.It's smart picking, because I'd agree that the Keeper is still right under Thanos, but it's kinda cheap at the same time.
Originally posted by King KAM
i Agree, this is quasar+Surfer, and i feel like it is atleast equal to Thanos, its 2 heralds in one.
Meh, Thanos is on a level above heralds. He could simultaneously take several of them on. Look how he handles the Surfer, I'm quite sure he could handle the Surfer and Quasar at once.
However, it still seems cheap and unfair to people who make choices like the Surfer or Quasar. 😛.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It's not equal to Thanos. Not in durability, not in offensive power, certainly not in strenght.Surfer and Quasar are about equal. But Thanos is easily over ten times more powerful then Surfer (In anything you can name besides speed). It doesn't just add up to Thanos level.
Well, recently, the Surfer matched Thanos' power level in annihilation, 😄. I posted the feat in the respect thread.
It's slightly ambiguous, but it's still quite impressive regardless, 😉.
But, like I said, Thanos is still superior to Quasar and the Surfer, but it's still unfair to those who are picking heralds LIKE Quasar or Surfer by their lonesome.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Surfer is majorly upgraded on annihilation, though, by Galactus himself.And I think there still is an confirmation round where people can change their picks, so if they feel like doing it...
But that's current Surfer. And that's the one that would be used in the thread, is it not?
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Really?Okay, then. He did have to go all-out to match that power, though. Thanos can match power with In-Betweener, so I don't think he would have needed to go all-out on those power cells.
Anyway, Keeper is pre-upgrade Surfer, anyone was wondering...
I realize. Still not a bad showing for the Surfer, though. Especially considering how weakened he was - he couldn't even WALK, and yet, he matched Thanos' power? Not shabby.
Een if it isn't the same surfer that would be used as the Quantum band wielder. I just like pointing out that....intense feat. 😉.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Well, enough to at least make it angry. Obviously it felt it.Anyway, like I said before...Thanos has higher level of offensive and defensive power then Keeper has (Considering that Thanos >>>> Quasar & Surfer).
Thanos > Power Cosmic
Thanos > Quantum Bands
Thanos = or < Power Cosmic + Quantum Bands
Anyway, BD booted him so this is moot, get your back up character ready.
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
It's not unfair. Annoying? Yes. But not unfair.As long as there's no "Well Quasar did this, so Keeper must be able to do exactly the same."
Exactly.
While we would not be using every single Quasar feat, Keeper was proficient in the use of them. It would all be up to judging as to whether or not we could use the said feats or not and our debating as to whether it would be plausible or not.
Also take SS and Quasar vs Thanos. Thanos wins everytime.
It might be cheap, it might be annoying, it might place people at a certain disadvantage but he is NOT above thanos. It was just a smart pick. I really wanna hear some reason as to why he should be banned other than, "damn I'm scared. Its the surfer with the quantum bands!...." No. 😐 Just no.
And me and DC are still working with Batdude about the pick. We really would consider it unfair if we were not allowed to get this pick since we were under the impression that Batdude had ok'd him since draft one! Especially considering the fact that he is STILL under Thanos. Thanos beats on Surfer like its a hobby and has blasted out of Quasars shields when no one else could. 😬
Keeper >>>>> SS & Quasar
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Originally posted by Blair Wind
We really would consider it unfair if we were not allowed to get this pick since we were under the impression that Batdude had ok'd him since draft one!
BD didn't have much info on him when he was OKd .... now that he's seen some he realises that he's over the limits.
Originally posted by Scoobless
Keeper >>>>> SS & Quasar😬
BD didn't have much info on him when he was OKd .... now that he's seen some he realises that he's over the limits.
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Also, the current "upgrade" Surfer....I thought he was just brought back to classic power levels. I didn't think he was any more powerful than he was originally. Am I wrong in this?
Originally posted by Scoobless
Keeper >>>>> SS & Quasar😬
BD didn't have much info on him when he was OKd .... now that he's seen some he realises that he's over the limits.
eh, we are still working on the thing over Pm. And in reality Keeper= SS and Quasar 😬
Thinking otherwise is absurd. He is less than SS (without the bands) since the upgrade, and just about the same as Quasar with the bands. Thanos can take MULTIPLE Herald levelers and still win. Keeper is still under thanos. Beating on Galactus when he had not feed in 500 years is not that great a feat 😐 He got beat TWICE by galactus. One right when he feed, and an average Galactus 😬
Hasnt Thor scared Galactus away with a Godblast?? Does that make him above thanos?
All in all, Keeper is below the mark. DC I think proved that with his scans of just how powerful Thanos really is 😬