Atheism

Originally posted by Nellinator
Let is suffice to say that it has been proven right more than a hundred times and what Adam is saying is not very true. I'm really not sure where he is getting his infomation, but Biblical archaelogy is large and very successful field.

I did not challenge the validity of biblical archaeology. To the contrary, I cited a group of biblical experts who hold that the stories of The Bible describe actual historical events. The fact remains that even among this group, there is disagreement over whether or not these stories describe fictional or historical figures.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Let is suffice to say that it has been proven right more than a hundred times and what Adam is saying is not very true. I'm really not sure where he is getting his infomation, but Biblical archaelogy is large and very successful field.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Did you or did you not present the archaeological, geographical, and historical accuracy of The Bible as fact?

Originally posted by Nellinator
That the Bible accurately describes many historical, archaelogical, and geological things is a fact. Yes, I did say that and it is true.

So does The DaVinci Code, but it is still fiction.

Originally posted by Nellinator
That the Bible accurately describes many historical, archaelogical, and geological things is a fact. Yes, I did say that and it is true. I believe that everything it has in these matters did happen, however, I have not stated that everything the Bible records has been proven because that would be false.

So does Gone With The Wind.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
So does The DaVinci Code, but it is still fiction.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So does Gone With The Wind.

Originally posted by Nellinator
That may be true, but that is not what I was arguing. I am not arguing the theology of the Bible. I simply stated that the Bible is accurate in terms of archaelogy, history, and geology.

I agree that the Bible is mostly accurate in terms of archaeology and geology but its not a historical document.

A lot of the history it records is true. The Hebrews in Egypt under an Assyrian king, many of the wars, the flood, the wars, the fall of Babylon and Nineveh, etc. are all historic events accurately recorded in the Bible.

Okay, I'll make a deal. If anyone can say or reveal something that proves atheism is more truthful or actual than Christianity, and if I cant give a good explanation, I will humbly agree with all of you that atheism is the way forward.

If I am able to counter your statements, I will post a statement of mine which any of you must explain intelligently. If not, well, its really up to all of you if you are willing to humble yourselves before Christ.

Agreed? Since Nellinator has a neutral stance, he can be the mediator (if he is willing, of course).

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Okay, I'll make a deal. If anyone can say or reveal something that proves atheism is more truthful or actual than Christianity, and if I cant give a good explanation, I will humbly agree with all of you that atheism is the way forward.

define truthful and factual for the purposes of this challenge

I'm neutral? confused1

Originally posted by Nellinator
That may be true, but that is not what I was arguing. I am not arguing the theology of the Bible. I simply stated that the Bible is accurate in terms of archaelogy, history, and geology and that was probably what Urizen was referring to in his post a while back before we got lost on this pointless tangent.

The bible may have some accurate point about archeology and history, but it is very wrong about geology.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Okay, I'll make a deal. If anyone can say or reveal something that proves atheism is more truthful or actual than Christianity, and if I cant give a good explanation, I will humbly agree with all of you that atheism is the way forward.

If I am able to counter your statements, I will post a statement of mine which any of you must explain intelligently. If not, well, its really up to all of you if you are willing to humble yourselves before Christ.

Agreed? Since Nellinator has a neutral stance, he can be the mediator (if he is willing, of course).

Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. Those who tell you they are atheists are telling you the truth or they are lying to you. This is the same for Christians. There are no supporting facts that can prove that a person is telling the truth about how they believe without a detailed lie detector test. So, how can you prove an atheists is more truthful then a Christian?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The bible may have some accurate point about archeology and history, but it is very wrong about geology.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Where?

One of many points: We understand the decay rate of Uranium. This understanding has brought us to realize that the Earth is 4.3 billion years old, not 6,000.

I'm sorry, I meant geography not geology.
Anyways, the word translated as day, can easily mean age. The Bible leaves an open end on the age of the world.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I'm sorry, I meant geography not geology.
Anyways, the word translated as day, can easily mean age. The Bible leaves an open end on the age of the world.

Maybe truth cannot be known.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Okay, I'll make a deal. If anyone can say or reveal something that proves atheism is more truthful or actual than Christianity, and if I cant give a good explanation, I will humbly agree with all of you that atheism is the way forward.

If I am able to counter your statements, I will post a statement of mine which any of you must explain intelligently. If not, well, its really up to all of you if you are willing to humble yourselves before Christ.

Agreed? Since Nellinator has a neutral stance, he can be the mediator (if he is willing, of course).

I propose that since no god hypotheses or supernatural claims have been able to withstand even casual examination, anyone who believes that he can prove supernatural claims is welcome to visit the James Randi Educational Foundation web site and apply for the Million Dollar Challenge.

James Randi's organization offers this prize to anyone "who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event."

Let us know how that works out for you.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I'm neutral? confused1

My thoughts exactly.

You don't need facts to be a Christian, and you don't need facts to be an Atheist.

People beleive what they beleive for different reasons. Both Christianity and Atheism have thier own amount of Truth and Lies.