Originally posted by quanchi112
Big time. He wasnt an option on this list but he is way up there.So is the Spectre as well.
How much Lucifer, Spectre, Superman and Flash have you read in total to consider yourself capable of calling them overrated? Because just as an example, I've read pretty much all of Lucifer...and he's not overrated. You know what the problem is? People hate it when someone can obviously stomp their favorite character...
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~I have heard these characters overexaggerated greatly. Misconstrued scans and what not.
How much Lucifer, Spectre, Superman and Flash have you read in total to consider yourself capable of calling them overrated? Because just as an example, I've read pretty much all of Lucifer...and he's not overrated. You know what the problem is? People hate it when someone can obviously stomp their favorite character...
I have read enough to know they are overrated vastly.
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
I've read pretty much all of Lucifer...and he's not overrated. You know what the problem is? People hate it when someone can obviously stomp their favorite character...
Originally posted by Air Legend
And I've read ALL of the Lucifer series and he IS overated. Lucifer wankers hate it when another character can obviously stomp him.
No....he's really really not 🙁 . I have read several Lucifer topics/posts and have noticed that you have a habit of popping in and voting against him on ANY occassion. That goes only to show some dislike towards him on your behalf.
Originally posted by Air Legend
Concession accepted.
That comment was aimed at quan chi's "I dunno that much about the characters but they can't be THAT powerful, so I'll just assume they're overrated" attitude.
You need to understand something. I myself dislike the fact that Wolverine is what he is now, as well as Sabertooth. But I don't call Sabertooth overrated on KMC, cause he's not. Jinzin provides proof for everything he states. What I do is I blame the writers for going absolutely insane concerning him. But I don't call the character overrated.
So people here should think about this quite a bit. Is a character really overrated or are you just upset with his/her abilities and really mean "That's got to be crazy writing" ?
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
No....he's really really not 🙁 . I have read several Lucifer topics/posts and have noticed that you have a habit of popping in and voting against him on ANY occassion. That goes only to show some dislike towards him on your behalf.
Hell, I don't even give Michael and Lucifer a win over Classic MM and I made a respect thread for Michael.
I go by what's actually presented on panel. Some people ignorantly give Lucifer the win over anyone, some even claim he beat "God". That's when you know a character is overrated.
Lucifer epitomizes overrated because of certain posters making asinine assertions such as Lucifer beat GOD!!!.
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~Huh?
No....he's really really not 🙁 . I have read several Lucifer topics/posts and have noticed that you have a habit of popping in and voting against him on ANY occassion. That goes only to show some dislike towards him on your behalf.That comment was aimed at quan chi's "I dunno that much about the characters but they can't be THAT powerful, so I'll just assume they're overrated" attitude.
You need to understand something. I myself dislike the fact that Wolverine is what he is now, as well as Sabertooth. But I don't call Sabertooth overrated on KMC, cause he's not. Jinzin provides proof for everything he states. What I do is I blame the writers for going absolutely insane concerning him. But I don't call the character overrated.
So people here should think about this quite a bit. Is a character really overrated or are you just upset with his/her abilities and really mean "That's got to be crazy writing" ?
What should I really say and where to begin.
I gave my opinion on which characters are overrated imo. I did just that. I have read about the flash and seen him beaten easily. But on here he wins before the other guys have time to react, which doesnt happen in the comics. The take a few feats and act like he should win against virtually anyone because of his speed.
Superman where to begin on him. First off the guy has never beaten Orion,failed to crush a WW while he wasnt holding back and was amped while she wans teven trying to hurt him. I hear all the time about his durability and how much he can take. Sure he is durable but I have also seen him easily overtaken by shadow demons,knocked senseless from a Kalibak punch,raped by Cyborg in three punches. All I hear about Superman too is he gits in 1000 punches before the other guy reacts. Ridiculous.
I kno wlucy is powerful but the beings I hear people giving him wins over would wipe their asses with him. Pretcon MM,Preretcon Beyonder,Thanos with the heart,Lt,etc.
Overrated. Most of his impressive feats have to do with outsmarting beings and creating universes. I havent seen any impressive battle feats that put him anywhere near the said company above.
Overrated.
Originally posted by Air Legend
Lucifer epitomizes overrated because of certain posters making asinine assertions such as Lucifer beat GOD!!!.
Only such assertions I've seen were related to God needing him, or rather him "tricking" God. Not beating God in battle. If you can show me someone say that, then I will admit that person (1 person) overrated him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I gave my opinion on which characters are overrated imo. I did just that. I have read about the flash and seen him beaten easily. But on here he wins before the other guys have time to react, which doesnt happen in the comics. The take a few feats and act like he should win against virtually anyone because of his speed.
Thank you for just proving you've never read the Forum Rules:
"For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels."
Here's a link to the Forum Rules. Enjoy reading them.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=461496
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman where to begin on him. First off the guy has never beaten Orion,failed to crush a WW while he wasnt holding back and was amped while she wans teven trying to hurt him. I hear all the time about his durability and how much he can take. Sure he is durable but I have also seen him easily overtaken by shadow demons,knocked senseless from a Kalibak punch,raped by Cyborg in three punches. All I hear about Superman too is he gits in 1000 punches before the other guy reacts. Ridiculous.
Cyborg Superman is almost if not as powerful as he is, so there you go, WW is almost on par with Superman so there you go (also include some PIS). For the last part of what you said with the 1000 punches, please see Superman Respect Thread and then proceed to Forum Rules again.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I kno wlucy is powerful but the beings I hear people giving him wins over would wipe their asses with him. Pretcon MM,Preretcon Beyonder,Thanos with the heart,Lt,etc.
Ummm....MM? Yes. Beyonder, I doubt it. Thanos with the heart did not show enough to me to make an opinion, but it's debatable IMO, LT I doubt Lucy could beat, but again....not sure. I'm still not sure why you're having trouble at least considering he might be able to beat these people...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Overrated. Most of his impressive feats have to do with outsmarting beings and creating universes. I havent seen any impressive battle feats that put him anywhere near the said company above.
He is one of the oldest and most intelligent beings in his universe, dealing in unbelievable levels of mastery over matter manipulation and all sorts of energies. Why would he run around battling insignificant insects?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Overrated.
Not the ones you mentioned in your post.
The Preretconned Beyonder who never actually fought anyone of note.
The Preretconned Molecule Man who's greatest feat is not getting cremed by the beyonder who had trouble killing death.
Thanos who's greatest feats are with prep and power ups and slapping around Thor, Thing, and professor Hulk.
Odin who hasn't done anything galactic since the silver age.
Originally posted by fangirl101
The Preretconned Beyonder who never actually fought anyone of note.The Preretconned Molecule Man who's greatest feat is not getting cremed by the beyonder who had trouble killing death.
Thanos who's greatest feats are with prep and power ups and slapping around Thor, Thing, and professor Hulk.
Odin who hasn't done anything galactic since the silver age.
marry me 😍
Originally posted by ~The Wickerman~
Only such assertions I've seen were related to God needing him, or rather him "tricking" God. Not beating God in battle. If you can show me someone say that, then I will admit that person (1 person) overrated him.
Originally posted by Air Legend
You know I was going to get the post, but your post is enough proof that Lucifer is overrated. "Tricking God" lmao.
Translation: "Nobody ever said he beat God in battle, even though I'm complaining about it, so I'll cop-out by not admitting to another thing about Lucifer, since although it's true, leads to the obvious result that Lucifer is the intelligent one while Michael is the sissy soldier-boy who never stood up to daddy".
Nice cop-out