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Kwisatz Haderach
Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes durabilityshoul dbe able to take more than three blows before he goes totally limp. Superman was amped fighting her without mercy while she wasnt even trying to beat him and she got away. Thats a horrible showing for Supes. WW is almost on par with Supes but isnt and he had an amp in the story while she didnt. He also went all out while she didnt even give 100 percent. Horrible.
You come off almost retarded with this post. In case you didn't notice, but the things Superman did to WW (breaking her wrist, freezing her), he could have done without a sun amp, it's also important to note that Supes didn't sun amp just because of WW. And Superman has beaten WW in the past without sun amping.
When you clearly don't acknowledge the awful amount of PIS involved in that encounter, you don't look like you know what you're talking about.
Originally posted by quanchi112
In character is what I argue. He is capable of speed blitzes yes but this 1000 punches stuff before the other guy blinks is ridiculous. He didnt speedblitz Cyborg or Kalibak and got beat both times. I remember when Desaad had Superman mindcontolled and hit Batman one time. 😐 Yet people claim 1000 when he cant even hit a mere human more than once on occasion.
There's no such thing as "in character" when talking about Superman's speed. He has used it so many times in the comics it's pointless to use the "in character" angle. Beyond that when writers make Superman fights a lot of the times they don't consider it a factor (mostly because of the plot, the same applies with the FLash), however there are plenty of examples where Superman has used his speed and his opponents couldn't even see him.
As far as Cyborg goes: he has the same exact combat speed as Superman (he's a clone, remember). Kalibak is no pushover in the comics and Superman beat both he and Mantis together.
As far as Batman is concerned in DC Batman is a walking CIS inducing character. I remember another occasion when Superman was mind controlled by Despero and he took forever to corner Batman. That's an example of PIS mixed in with extreme CIS. I like consistency in comics and that encounter was an irritating read. I hope for the good of all that is decent and sane, no writer ever puts Batman in a situation like that again, we just see logic ( even comic book logic) violated for the sake of some wankfest.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He hasnt matched wits with anyone like Darkseid,Lex Luthor,Brainiac,etc. I mean he is powerful I get that but he has less competition in terms of intellect imo.
Ok.