Smarts or PIS

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Poor little boy, all those raging hormones are making you mad. Please take a chill pill, or go have a W@nk to calm yourself down. If you are too young to know what a w@nk is, go pull on weener until white stuff comes out ! 😉

I really dont appraciate the rudeness. In all fairness I dont think he should have swore at her, but he was actually in the right in terms of what they were debating about...but no that doesnt give him the right to swear at her unless she was being rude to him.

Prof if you're going to be rude could please go somewhere else.

Originally posted by Ichigo66666
No, i'm tense that there is retards and stupid people left in this world. That fail to comprehend logic such as PIS, your Captain is nothing but walking, talking PIS.

My friend that same attitude led to the extermination of disabled people during the second world war. Are you in the Hitler youth ?This is probably why you hate like Captain America so much. Have you not forgiven the Americans for D- Day ?

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Poor little boy, all those raging hormones are making you mad. Please take a chill pill, or go have a W@nk to calm yourself down. If you are too young to know what a w@nk is, go pull on weener until white stuff comes out ! 😉

Who the f*ck are you? You f*cking w@nker, coming in here talking sh*t. You know nothing you f*cking sock scum. Die already. 🙂

I give up this thread has just turned to crap

Originally posted by Alfheim
I really dont appraciate the rudeness. In all fairness I dont think he should have swore at her, but he was actually in the right in terms of what they were debating about...but no that doesnt give him the right to swear at her unless she was being rude to him.

Prof if you're going to be rude could please go somewhere else.

I apologies for the rudeness, i just think masturbation is a good form of stress release. I do apologies

Originally posted by Alfheim
I give up this thread has just turned to crap

Originally posted by Alfheim
I give up this thread has just turned to crap

Originally posted by Alfheim
I really dont appraciate the rudeness. In all fairness I dont think he should have swore at her, but he was actually in the right in terms of what they were debating about...but no that doesnt give him the right to swear at her unless she was being rude to him.

Prof if you're going to be rude could please go somewhere else.

Please Prof don't bother he's not worth it.

So explain why he is right, the writers seem to agree with me. As they right good stories using the basic protagonist overcoming odds plotline, which is the staple of heroic fiction.

Put simply, the heroes of action films, books, and TV shows are almost always decisive, aggressive, and disinclined to play by the rules. One does not find many of them obsessed with rumination and consensus-building for the same reason that one finds few impetuous he-men in drawing room comedies: It doesn't work dramatically. They are men of action they exist to avert great evils. They overcome insumountable odds. You call this PIS, I call it character shields and it works in every story of this genre to a greater or lesser degree.

Originally posted by Weyoun
Please Prof don't bother he's not worth it.

So explain why he is right, the writers seem to agree with me. As they right good stories using the basic protagonist overcoming odds plotline, which is the staple of heroic fiction.

Put simply, the heroes of action films, books, and TV shows are almost always decisive, aggressive, and disinclined to play by the rules. One does not find many of them obsessed with rumination and consensus-building for the same reason that one finds few impetuous he-men in drawing room comedies: It doesn't work dramatically. They are men of action they exist to avert great evils. They overcome insumountable odds. You call this PIS, I call it character shields and it works in every story of this genre to a greater or lesser degree.

Ok i'll try to explain. The whole purpose of this forum is to try and create a place where charachters fight without PIS or characters shield. Its almost as if you put the characters in the real world. Just this simple fact...in the comics the heroes always win. In real life that would not happen.

Nobody is saying that the human spirit is a non factor, but it wont help all the time. Take Hannibal for example he was trying to protect his people from being conquered by The Romans, he was right to do so but he lost in the end. Also there was a Welsh General who fought against Henry V because The English were opressing The Welsh. He lost and his wife and daughters were imprisoned, So im sorry the human spirit doesnt always overcome evil.

At the same time we have characters who have been biten by radioactive spiders and been hit by nuclear explosions instead of dying have gained superhuman powers, so there is also alot of illogical stuff to.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok i'll try to explain. The whole purpose of this forum is to try and create a place where charachters fight [B] without PIS or characters shield. Its almost as if you put the characters in the real world. Just this simple fact...in the comics the heroes always win. In real life that would not happen.

Nobody is saying that the human spirit is a non factor, but it wont help all the time. Take Hannibal for example he was trying to protect his people from being conquered by The Romans, he was right to do so but he lost in the end. Also there was a Welsh General who fought against Henry V because The English were opressing The Welsh. He lost and his wife and daughters were imprisoned, So im sorry the human spirit doesnt always overcome evil.

At the same time we have characters who have been biten by radioactive spiders and been hit by nuclear explosions instead of dying have gained superhuman powers, so there is also alot of illogical stuff to. [/B]

So it's like a game of match the atributes which we know real life really isn't like, for example on paper Ali should never have been able to beat Foreman the way he did. The tale of the tape says no way and yet with heroic effort and strategy he did.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok i'll try to explain. The whole purpose of this forum is to try and create a place where charachters fight [B] without PIS or characters shield. Its almost as if you put the characters in the real world. Just this simple fact...in the comics the heroes always win. In real life that would not happen.

Nobody is saying that the human spirit is a non factor, but it wont help all the time. Take Hannibal for example he was trying to protect his people from being conquered by The Romans, he was right to do so but he lost in the end. Also there was a Welsh General who fought against Henry V because The English were opressing The Welsh. He lost and his wife and daughters were imprisoned, So im sorry the human spirit doesnt always overcome evil.

At the same time we have characters who have been biten by radioactive spiders and been hit by nuclear explosions instead of dying have gained superhuman powers, so there is also alot of illogical stuff to. [/B]

What is PIS, im note entirely sure ? Does it have something to do with urine ?

Originally posted by Weyoun
So it's like a game of match the atributes which we know real life really isn't like, for example on paper Ali should never have been able to beat Foreman the way he did. The tale of the tape says no way and yet with heroic effort and strategy he did.

Well...ok this is abit confusing for me because its like I agree with what you're saying and I agree with ichi but there are certain areas in which I disagree with both of you. So its going to be hard for me to explain my position.

Well I agree with what you are saying about Ali and Foreman, but the difference is on this forum we hve somebody like Cap knocking out somebody who is 10 times stronger than him in one punch. The Ali vs Foreman match does prove that the human spirit is powerful but Ali never fought somebody who could lift 10 tons if that happened Ali would have died, but in a comic Ali may have beaten the 10 toner. Ali beating the 10 toner would be PIS.

At the same time Cap is better than Ali. Cap can see bullets, he can dodge lasers in zero gravity. Futhermore there are other superheroes like Mantis who have human strength and have the ability to knock out Thor!

So eventhough we are trying to be more realistic sometimes logic goes out of the window. How can a human being see bullets? In the real world they cant but in the comics Cap can. So what we try to do is to get the attributes of the heroes in the comic and try and put them in a more realistic envinronment.

So eventhough Cap can see bullets he will lose against Profesor X because we know Caps mind is not strong enough to protect him from Professor X's mental assault. If Cap was able to beat Prof X in a comic without a rational explanation that is PIS and is not allowed on this forum.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well...ok this is abit confusing for me because its like I agree with what you're saying and I agree with ichi but there are certain areas in which I disagree with both of you. So its going to be hard for me to explain my position.

Well I agree with what you are saying about Ali and Foreman, but the difference is on this forum we hve somebody like Cap knocking out somebody who is 10 times stronger than him in one punch. The Ali vs Foreman match does prove that the human spirit is powerful but Ali never fought somebody who could lift 10 tons if that happened Ali would have died, but in a comic Ali may have beaten the 10 toner. Ali beating the 10 toner would be PIS.

At the same time Cap is better than Ali. Cap can see bullets, he can dodge lasers in zero gravity. Futhermore there are other superheroes like Mantis who have human strength and have the ability to knock out Thor!

So eventhough we are trying to be more realistic sometimes logic goes out of the window. How can a human being see bullets? In the real world they cant but in the comics Cap can. So what we try to do is to get the attributes of the heroes in the comic and try and put them in a more realistic envinronment.

The point is bullies have glass jaws, at least in fiction, it doesn't matter if the can lift a hundred tons or 40Kg. This holds true to a point in real life, take Mike Tyson for example. Once Buster Dougls beat him because his head wasn't right, people like Holyfield knew how to tear him apart and of course Lennox unbeknown to us all had proven this in sparring almost a decade earlier.

Originally posted by Weyoun
The point is bullies have glass jaws, at least in fiction, it doesn't matter if the can lift a hundred tons or 40Kg. This holds true to a point in real life, take Mike Tyson for example. Once Buster Dougls beat him because his head wasn't right, people like Holyfield knew how to tear him apart and of course Lennox unbeknown to us all had proven this in sparring almost a decade earlier.

Sorry not sure what you're point is, you're saying alot of stuff....

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well I agree with what you are saying about Ali and Foreman, but the difference is on this forum we hve somebody like Cap knocking out somebody who is 10 times stronger than him in one punch. The Ali vs Foreman match does prove that the human spirit is powerful but Ali never fought somebody who could lift 10 tons if that happened Ali would have died, but in a comic Ali may have beaten the 10 toner. Ali beating the 10 toner would be PIS.

I think a better comparison is Terminator 1. When you consider that the human was able to take down a device that was many times more powerful, its plausibles. Cap is master of tactics and h2h combat, to the point that he is aware of all physical weak spots and pressure points, its not hard to comprehend him beating physically superior characters.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Sorry not sure what you're point is, you're saying alot of stuff....

I think shes saying; badguys go down more easilly, due to mental instability.

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Cap is master of tactics and h2h combat, to the point that he is aware of all physical weak spots and pressure points, its not hard to comprehend him beating physically superior characters.

I agree and he is enhanced as well.

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
I think shes saying; badguys go down more easilly, due to mental instability.

If she is that dont make sense.

Originally posted by Alfheim

If she is that dont make sense.

Although she has provided viable examples from the real world, where mental instability can drastically effect a fighters performance ?

Originally posted by Alfheim

If she is that dont make sense.

Wooops double post !

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Although she has provided viable examples from the real world, where mental instability can drastically effect a fighters performance ?

Well I have given examples of people who have been fighting for a good cause but have lost. You also cant compare Tyson to Dr Doom or Red Skull. To be quite honest he lost because he ahdnt been training as hard. Whe he knoked out all those other guys he could still be considered to be unstable.