Smarts or PIS

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well I have given examples of people who have been fighting for a good cause but have lost. You also cant compare Tyson to Dr Doom or Red Skull. To be quite honest he lost because he ahdnt been training as hard. Whe he knoked out all those other guys he could still be considered to be unstable.

IMO lack of training was caused / and lead to greater mental instability. Golf and football are the best examples of this. I think most people see Super heroes and villains as robots, i.e. unaffected by the ravages of mental insecurity

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
IMO lack of training was caused / and lead to greater mental instability. Golf and football are the best examples of this.

Yeah I said that as well.

One thing that is over looked is many story lines are PIS for example anything dealing with Flash or Superman. If these characters fought to their normal potential then no one could beat them so they either de-power them for fights to make it more enjoyable to readers. Does it make a good read that Cap can defeat Iron Man, yes but it doesn’t mean that it is not PIS because Cap couldn’t beat him without major luck or stupidity on Iron Mans part.

Originally posted by ThePittman
One thing that is over looked is many story lines are PIS for example anything dealing with Flash or Superman. If these characters fought to their normal potential then no one could beat them so they either de-power them for fights to make it more enjoyable to readers. Does it make a good read that Cap can defeat Iron Man, yes but it doesn’t mean that it is not PIS because Cap couldn’t beat him without major luck or stupidity on Iron Mans part.

CAP CNA DEFT NE1 WIT BIN EROTIC, I MEAN PATRIOTIC AND ENOUGH WILL!

Originally posted by ThePittman
One thing that is over looked is many story lines are PIS for example anything dealing with Flash or Superman. If these characters fought to their normal potential then no one could beat them so they either de-power them for fights to make it more enjoyable to readers. Does it make a good read that Cap can defeat Iron Man, yes but it doesn’t mean that it is not PIS because Cap couldn’t beat him without major luck or stupidity on Iron Mans part.

Well like I said. Cap can see bullets, he can dodge lasers in zero gravity. Mantis can knock out Thor.....Mantis has human strength.

Originally posted by Ichigo66666
CAP CNA DEFT NE1 WIT BIN EROTIC, I MEAN PATRIOTIC AND ENOUGH WILL!

I thought we were gonna stop that? Well you still have not rebutted my posts yet. All the evidence shows that a human creel wont stand a chance against cap and apparently Iron Man did not fly to the Sun in seconds.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well like I said. Cap can see bullets, he can dodge lasers in zero gravity. Mantis can knock out Thor.....Mantis has human strength.

I thought we were gonna stop that? Well you still have not rebutted my posts yet. All the evidence shows that a human creel wont stand a chance against cap and apparently Iron Man did not fly to the Sun in seconds.

Creel will take a few punches, or just grab Caps shield, he only need's the slightest touch. Really? I'm sure he did 😖 Something like that.

Why should I stop? Socks United are attacking me, I'm attacking back, my last comment was perfectly ok and puts her comments into one sentence.

Originally posted by Alfheim

I thought we were gonna stop that? Well you still have not rebutted my posts yet. All the evidence shows that a human creel wont stand a chance against cap and apparently Iron Man did not fly to the Sun in seconds.

He still hasn't spanked his monkey ! 😉

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
He still hasn't spanked his monkey ! 😉

No, just your mother. 🙂

Originally posted by Ichigo66666

Why should I stop? Socks United are attacking me, I'm attacking back, my last comment was perfectly ok and puts her comments into one sentence.

No you made a callus attempt to be funny !

Originally posted by Ichigo66666
No, just your mother. 🙂

Nah she doesn't screw 13 year olds. 😉

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
No you made a callus attempt to be funny !

A sock isn't worth my hand getting sore.

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Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Nah she doesn't screw 13 year olds. 😉

You'd be suprised. 😉

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well like I said. Cap can see bullets, he can dodge lasers in zero gravity. Mantis can knock out Thor.....Mantis has human strength.

I thought we were gonna stop that? Well you still have not rebutted my posts yet. All the evidence shows that a human creel wont stand a chance against cap and apparently Iron Man did not fly to the Sun in seconds.

Originally posted by Ichigo66666
Creel will take a few punches, or just grab Caps shield, he only need's the slightest touch. Really? I'm sure he did 😖 Something like that.

Well ok im done. Seriously you need to take a look at a Cap comic. You were arguing that because Creel is bigger that somehow he would be better at fighting Cap than agents of shield.....thats not very good.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well ok im done. Seriously you need to take a look at a Cap comic. You were arguing that because Creel is bigger that somehow he would be better at fighting Cap than agents of shield.....thats not very good.

I never said that, I said he never thought a SHIELD agent of Creels size. Creel could take some punches and/or just tap his Shield-Vibranium Creel.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Cap dodging bullets or lasers is total PIS, he can dodge the shooter but not the projectile, he is only peek human performance and where it looks good in comics no human could dodge bullets or lasers.

Cap has also been discribed as being enhanced human. Even if he was peak human how do you know that human beings cant dodge bullets if they were at peak potential, do you know what the limit of human potential is? So eventhoug he said that he can see bullets its PIS? So is Mantis knocking out Thor PIS eventhough it states in her profile in black and white that she can evenhough she has a human strength level.

Originally posted by Ichigo66666
I never said that, I said he never thought a SHIELD agent of Creels size. Creel could take some punches and/or just tap his Shield-Vibranium Creel.

Well I think you said something like that im too tired to get the quote. Furthermore you're not listening to me....look at what Cap did to the agents of shield. Creel is nowhere near as fast as they are and Cap has knocked out Thunderball with one punch.

If Cap can move so fast that trained humans can barely see him. Creel is not going to be able to react or touch his shield. Creel is not tough enough to take more than one punch from him either. 🙄

Originally posted by Alfheim
Cap has also been discribed as being enhanced human. Even if he was peak human how do you know that human beings cant dodge bullets if they were at peak potential, do you know what the limit of human potential is? So eventhoug he said that he can see bullets its PIS? So is Mantis knocking out Thor PIS eventhough it states in her profile in black and white that she can evenhough she has a human strength level.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Because the humans in the MU are based with the normal humans that are now, even at peek human performance (Marvel’s Bio) the speed of a bullet is faster then a human’s reaction time; if he is beyond these then he is above human abilities which would basically make him have a mutant ability.

They maybe human but they are obvously more powerful. I think the design of a plane was partially based on a bird does that mean it has to be slow as a bird?

Well is it PIS that Moondragon can learn to have vast psionic powers? Is it PIS that Dr Strange can learn to have vast magical powers? Is it PIS that Mantis can learn to knock out Thor?

If they are human and they can LEARN how to do what they do, why cant cap dodge bullets.

Originally posted by Alfheim
They maybe human but they are obvously more powerful. I think the design of a plane was partially based on a bird does that mean it has to be slow as a bird?

Well is it PIS that Moondragon can learn to have vast psionic powers? Is it PIS that Dr Strange can learn to have vast magical powers? Is it PIS that Mantis can learn to knock out Thor?

If they are human and they can LEARN how to do what they do, why cant cap dodge bullets.

Originally posted by ThePittman
There is a difference between learned knowledge then human abilities, can Cap dodge the shooter yes but not the speed of a bullet or much less light.

No no no. Mantis has learnt how to knock out Thor.....she is still human......Moondragon learnt how to have psionic powers....do the math. If Cap is human he has the SS serum and trains how is it impossible for him to dodge bullets when you have other humans who have learnt how to fly.

Alot of Caps powers come from learnt knowledge.