Originally posted by yungz22
this chidori was much stronger plus sasuke didnt hit a vital area he was basically torturing naruto
Rasengan is stronger than chidori. Just bec saskue hit first does not mean it is stronger, it could just mean saskue has a longer reach. The water tower was not just to show that saskue was angry at Naruto getting stronger, it was showing that Rasengan was stronger than chidori. If you paid attention, you would see how Saskue was gloating when he saw the results of the water towers from the front and when he saw that back he realized that the Rasengan was more powerful and he would have been killed if he was hit buy it. That was the point where he realized Naruto had become stronger than him, and thats why he went to Orochimuro to gain power. He actually realized the power difference when Naruto defeated Gaara, somebody who Saskue couldn't beat.
Originally posted by jmcnasty
Rasengan is stronger than chidori. Just bec saskue hit first does not mean it is stronger, it could just mean saskue has a longer reach. The water tower was not just to show that saskue was angry at Naruto getting stronger, it was showing that Rasengan was stronger than chidori. If you paid attention, you would see how Saskue was gloating when he saw the results of the water towers from the front and when he saw that back he realized that the Rasengan was more powerful and he would have been killed if he was hit buy it. That was the point where he realized Naruto had become stronger than him, and thats why he went to Orochimuro to gain power. He actually realized the power difference when Naruto defeated Gaara, somebody who Saskue couldn't beat.
not exactly sasuke said it would be a stalemate so he would have to start of with a fast offesnsive attack to make an opening for it hence the whole pheonix flower thing.
naruto cant beat garra when he is not using shukkaku because of his ultimate defense naruto was only able to land hits because the sand was not protecting him. and that fight was a tie they were both out of chakra at the end
Originally posted by yungz22
not exactly sasuke said it would be a stalemate so he would have to start of with a fast offesnsive attack to make an opening for it hence the whole pheonix flower thing.naruto cant beat garra when he is not using shukkaku because of his ultimate defense naruto was only able to land hits because the sand was not protecting him. and that fight was a tie they were both out of chakra at the end
Gaara is even stronger when using Shukkaku, which makes Naruto defeating him even more impressive. Naruto landed the final blow which makes him the winner. Naruto was still determine go after Gaara and Gaara was the one wimpering, saying stay away from me.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
raasengan slightly greater than chidori with the same person with ame expertise for both using it.
lightning edge>raasengan or chidori{normal}{remember werse assuming in all these cases that its the same user with same expertise for both}
full body lightning expell{sasuke} spread out chidori, less powerful but more useful than normal raasengan or chidori, level compareable or higher than lightning edge.
curse mark level 2 black chidori=kyuubi chakra, purple raasengan>all the mentioned before. the shidori MIGHT be ever so slightly powerful than the raasengan in this case with naruto having only one tail
wind raasengan>raasen shuriken> all the mentioned above.
the reason theres so much debate is that the same jutsu used by two different people can have 2 completely different power levels as explained in naruto, due to chakra control, capacity, manipulation and stamina. this puts a huge variance on results which we dont know is because of the level of the jutsu or because of the skill of the person using it, nough said.
Originally posted by Burnt Pancakes
Oh god...Your circular debating tactics are starting to annoy me.
Multiple members including myself have already been over this. We have been over all of this. It's obvious you just refuse to accept facts. So, I'm done.
the first time he chose not too kill him watch episode 134 pay close attention to sasuke's hand.
the second time sai interfered with the 2.
dont get me wrong naruto will be stronger than sasuke just he isnt right now