And none of the those have even showed half the power Kyuubi Naruto has. Gaara doesn't get a power boost because he weilds Shukaku inside him. The one Tobi and Deidara beat was said to be dumb and unable to actually use it's chakra. The Cat Girl fought two immortals and still lost to a person Shikamaru beat himself, and Kakashi basically took on himself and that Naruto defeated without even using a tail. Kyuubi Naruto has been shown above everybody so far. He nearly killed Jiriaya who is the strongest in Konoha and so far nobody has really been shown stronger than him.
No Shukaku had a lot of power. Gaara went to sleep and awoke Shukaku and Shukaku still had trouble against Gamabunta though he would have killed Gamabunta had Naruto not have woke Gaara up but Gaara doesn't get any power himself from Shukaku. And Naruto still beat transformed Gaara making Gaara wake Shukaku up to fight without using any tails. Shikamaru still was able to beat Hidan who took out a person with a tailed-beast in them while they were using the power. Sure it was brains that won but still he beat him and not that hard either. Kakashi was able to take on Kakuzu still who also beat the 3 tails. Kakuzu wasn't that weakened..he was missing a few hearts but he was far from beat though. Kyuubi Naruto still stands above all the other tailed-beast and any body else in the series so far.
That's why I said sure it was brains but he still won. Shikamaru isn't really a great fighter to begin with. He only 'wins' his fights because he's so much smarter than anybody else. Like his match against Temari and Tayuya. The only difference between those two and Hidan is that he actually wins against Hidan instead of stalemating.
No you haven't. Maybe if Naruto stayed normal sure Sasuke would be stronger but he has Kyuubi there to make him more powerful. Naruto vs Sasuke with Naruto not going Kyuubi and Sasuke not using Cursed Seal then Naruto would be weaker but Cursed Seal lvl2 Sasuke isn't anywhere close to 4-tailed Kyuubi Naruto.
Originally posted by yungz22Sasuke wouldn't have a say in what Naruto did at all if he went Kyuubi. Though I do want to see what Sasuke's new jutsu is. I also wonder what Jiraiya told Naruto not to use when they went off to help the Sand Village.
sasuke would not allow him to go four tails plus we still havent see sasuke's new jutsu. plus 4 tails is extremely dangerous if sasuke doesnt kill naruto the fox will
SERIOUSLY, what is wrong with people on this forum. theyll do anything to devalue even the most blatant power feats in naruto. sasuke DID supress the kyuubi, naruto DIDNT supress it. he WASNT exerting himsefl to supress it. the kyuubi was out of his confines already, and SASUKE banished it{cudnt be more clear} with his hand. the INTENTION of the mangaka was to show sasuke's power and his will. the kyuubi didnt THREATEN sasuke. he merely stated a fact which no1 has been able to interpret yet{seriously, try to explain it to me. how cud a sealed kyuubi THREATEN sasuke about killing naruto, when infact , naruto's death would mean the death of the kyuubi??}. it is referring to things about the kyuubi yet unexplained.
also, urochimaru , after fighting{playing, in his own words} the 4 tails, states that even though naruto has developed a lot, he still wasnt a match for sasuke{or sumthing along those lines}.
later, sasuke proves to be able to take attacks, which were atleast, more vast and damaging physically{although u can not comment on their chakra density etc} than the kyuubi, as diedara is clearly more destructive than the 4 tails. and sasuke triumphed in that fight even with the lastexplosion. i think it is safe to say that atleast for NOWs, sasuke is far more powerful than naruto{how naruto's futon rasenshuriken compares to sasuke's jutsu, i dont know though}.
Naruto wasn't even trying to use it. Kyuubi wasn't even out yet. He was talking and trying to come out. Sasuke sealed like a tiny bit of Kyuubi when Naruto was also actively refusing Kyuubi to help. There is a big difference with sealing it after it's already out and doing it while the person it also fighting against it when Kyuubi Naruto on any other occasions happens instantly and the tails also happen nearly instantly. And what makes people assume Naruto can die? Everything that has happened to him have yet to kill him and Kabuto stopped his heart which Tsunade said she couldn't heal and he lived again, and Sasuke punched through his lung and he regenerated it instantly. How would a sword to the back have killed Naruto at all like he was going to do before Sai stopped him?
No he says that while fighting the three-tails, while the four-tails was a whole lot stronger than Orochimaru imagined. He never says anything about the four-tails being weaker or stronger than Sasuke. Not that Naruto did anything in three-tail form except slash Orochimaru's face, then surroudn himself in chakra as Kabuto attacks knocking Kabuto back and destroying the bridge. As four-tails he made a huge crater compareable to what Deidara has done before he even blasted at Orochimaru.
As for Deidara's attacks..He doesn't take any of the blasts. Half the blasts he dodged and the other half he stops with his lightining element. And he didn't even take all of the last blast just the beginning or it. The other blast he did survive took off his wing also. Also Sasuke beat Orochimaru while he was weak and bedridden and he still had to go Cursed Seal lvl2 while Orochimaru stated that the blast he blocked from four-tails Naruto would kill him and he was in full health and couldn't really stand against four-tails.
so what, naruto wasnt trying to use it either when the first tail form was released. he was unconcious and the kyuubi took control. the same thing happened against jiraya. naruto wasnt TRYING to use it yet it still took over. also, why do you thing yamato had to be there as naruto trained with his wind element, naruto was TRYING to supress the kyuubi but often could not and eventually one wud start growing tails. fail on all acounts, your argument does not hold.
before that, the kyuubi{even in 4 tails form} had NEVER come "out" of his prison, naruto just went inside the bars. this time it was OUT of its confined partially and telling naruto to release the seal completely. it wasnt naruto who stopped it at all, but sasuke, who casually banished it back into its prison inside naruto's soul. before which the kyuubi clearly COMMENTED on sasuke's power which was more cursed than his own, and refered to him to be like uchia madara{who summoned the kyuubi}. how much more simpler do i have to make it for you.
also, the very reason the kyuubi gives naruto its power is because its AFRAID that naruto cant die, the reason he survived the chidoi was because at the last moment he deflected it with his hand away from his heart and into his lungs. he might have died without tsunades's help too. or if sasuke had chosen to kill him to obtain the mangekyo sharingan.
before he leaves his fight with the 4 tails, he says he doesnt have time to PLAY anymore, and also says that "naruto still has a way to go before he can catch up to 'our' sasuke". or sumthing along those lines.
the very REASON urochimaru didnt want to "play" with the 4 tails any longer was because his body was at its limit and he had to return. he was almost bedridden by that time. and if you mean that the intense direct hit of the curse chakra ball "migh" have been enough to kill urochimaru, then u can not judge him based solely on that, i mean HELLO, u cud very easily kill luffy too if he hadnt eaten the devil fruit, the fact that urochimaru has ultimate protection jutsu that can stop the attack is also part of URO'S strength and shudnt be neglected.
also, sasuke took the major brunt of diedara's suicide attack before he went inside manda's mouths and let manda take the rest. plus, why was sasuke so busted up if he didnt take any attacks eveen before diedara used the suicide jutsu?