I also didn't think so previously either before a month or so ago, due to things such as what you list below, however, I researched what I've written previously, and proven otherwise. It is canon, things that are a clear contradiction or for gameplay alone (such as the Force lightning) aren't valid, albeit. Although, what Anakin did with the statue doesn't provide any inconsistencies, from what I gather, so it would thusly be canon. The following two statements are where the conclusion of the Episode III video game being canon is made absolute:
In the same thread, I believe on page 67, Leland Chee also states this in regards to the game's continuity errors:
"Jocasta Nu and Serra Keto deaths are continuity; Cin Drallig's is not (he doesn't even wear the same costume as he does in the movie) nor are any other discpencies between the game and the movie. Some of the "deleted scene" levels from the Trade Federation cruiser levels might fit in. Obviously, the alternate ending is non-continuity."
So, it's quite apparent that if Serra Keto and Jocastu Nu's demises in the game follow continuity, then the game - as a whole - is canon. Anything that doesn't contradict the movie, other materials, or is considered gameplay is non-canon, everything else isn't labeled as such.
How exactly does that make the entire game canon? All the quote says is that two particular deaths are canon and makes no mention to the rest of the game. On what other occasion has Anakin ever displayed Force powers on that scale? If it's an isolated occurence, it's VERY likely that it's an inconsistency. Anyway, as AC said, the tree basically trumps the statue and Vader, not Anakin, is the one with the tree feat.
"Tackle"? Don't kid yourself, son.
Post your reasons and lets see how it goes.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
How exactly does that make the entire game canon?
Overall, it is canon. If you don't know how it makes it as such, then I'd suggest you work on your comprehension. Contradictions are dealt with as they arise, and case by case to ensure C-level material is still considered to be a part of continuity. Leland Chee has stated such, and that usage is always in effect.
Therefore,
Whatever inconsistencies with the movie and the game (or even other materials) are non-canon, but anything otherwise is canon. Jocastu Nu's death makes that obvious, if it were "100% non-canon" as you wrongfully stated, then neither of the two's death from the game would be considered correct, hun.
So, like I said, try again.
All the quote says is that two particular deaths are canon and makes no mention to the rest of the game.
1. Those two particular deaths prove the fact that the game isn't non-canon at all (which was your original statement), because they cannot be consistent if the game itself is "N"-canon, as their deaths are made no mention of anywhere else, from what I know.
2. Leland Chee clearly explains that anything that contradicts from the movies, or other material for all material is dealt with case by case, and games are "C"-canon.
I'm basically parroting the point at the top, but point is: you're wrong.
On what other occasion has Anakin ever displayed Force powers on that scale?
"But if it was a demonstration of Force ability Dooku wanted, then Anakin was still more than willing to provide it. "Dooku!" he howled. With such force and wrath that the ceiling of the vast hall began to collapse."
-- Labyrinth of Evil, Chapter 41 (?), written by James Luceno.
Where does it state he has to have done it before? Oh? Nowhere? Don't be ridiculous, Glentract.
If it's an isolated occurence, it's VERY likely that it's an inconsistency.
No, it's not "very likely", let alone likely at all.
Anyway, as AC said, the tree basically trumps the statue and Vader, not Anakin, is the one with the tree feat.
What's your point exactly? Do I even give a shit?
Post your reasons and lets see how it goes.
My thoughts on the matter only go so far as to say that Anakin would mop the floor with Darth Vader in lightsaber combat, not necessarily with the Force, as you seem to think I'm saying.
If you want me to post them, I'll just quote myself.
it's VERY likely that it's an inconsistency.
Well it's not like he hasn't done anything ons that scale with the force before as Advent pointed out, and there's also a perfectly logical explanation for his sudden increase in power: his turning to the darkside, so it's definitely not an inconsistency.
And about the tree (ignore what I said yesterday, I only skim read through the comic), I really don't see how you can consider what Vader did as more impressive than what Anakin did.
1. In the RotS game, Anakin actually completely takes the statue down with the force, here Vader actually cuts the tree first, and while it's falling down, he accelerates its fall with the force.
2. I see no proof that the tree was even any bigger than the statue in the RotS game was.
3. You can't deny that the density for the statue would have been much greater than the tree.
No, I think what Anakin did is definitely more impressive.
Well it's not like he hasn't done anything ons that scale with the force before as Advent pointed out, and there's also a perfectly logical explanation for his sudden increase in power: his turning to the darkside, so it's definitely not an inconsistency.
Um didnt it take him time to even lift it up while vader could destroy the tree with the force quickly and use it to crush the dark lady, Big deal, anakin lifted a statue which another jedi can counter with TK, And vader? isnt he stronger in the force that anakin? O yes i think he would pretty much counter that. Again it takes a matter of time for anakin to lift the statue and yet get it into position to throw it at his opponents. That leaves him open to attacks
And about the tree (ignore what I said yesterday, I only skim read through the comic), I really don't see how you can consider what Vader did as more impressive than what Anakin did.
But i can, considering how big the diameter of the tree is and he merely cut part of the tree with only half of his lightsaber, remember, he didnt purposely cut the tree, he tried to hit the dark woman and he missed, he overpowerd some one far faster and far more agile than he was.
1. In the RotS game, Anakin actually completely takes the statue down with the force, here Vader actually cuts the tree first, and while it's falling down, he accelerates its fall with the force.
Liar, i have the book, you dont, the tree was cut and then he clenches his fist to break the tree apart and pounded the dark woman. Obviosly you can see in the picture the tree was merely wounded by vaders slash and it began to fall when he clenched his fist . Again he didnt purposely wound the tree, he missed as i said,
You can obviously see how big the tree is, when it collapsed on her, you cant even see her at all considering the size of the tree. And you can see the impact, how great it is and considering the fact that only Huge objects can cause this kind of impact when hitting the ground
2. I see no proof that the tree was even any bigger than the statue in the RotS game was.
It actually is from my point of view, we couldnt even see the entire tree at all from top to the bottom
3. You can't deny that the density for the statue would have been much greater than the tree.
Does it matter at all which has higher density?The impact the tree made is greater than what happened to the statue, And again, For an impact like that to happen, it takes an extremely huge object
No, I think what Anakin did is definitely more impressive.
Actually vader did things more impressive than anakin did with the force, 2 feats of anakin doing something isnt greater than the dozens of things vader could do to his opponents, Even the games show what he is capable of with his powers .
Sith'ari, you just hate vader alot because acstyles proved that he pwned your "precious" bane in the other thread.
I seriously am tired of the fact Anakin brought down a building with his anger being a feat...It only shows his utter stupidity and lack of skill. He's got more natural ability than brains by 200%.
Yoda: Powerful you are in The FOrce, Anakin.
Anakin: Argh!
*they fight for a good long time*
Anakin: Yoda!!! *the ground cracks beneath them and Yoda leaps to safety while Anakin falls to his death*
It's basically what happened with the building. Through his truly awe-inspiring use of The Force, Anakin buried himself and let the wise and experienced Dooku escape because Dooku was capable of dodging Anakin's random acts of stupidity.
Kadesh, in the game, the statue is HUGE. If i could find a pic I'd post it, but a portion of the head alone, dwarfed Anakin/Vader and he pulled it down alone, killed several Jedi that way, and threw the head portion through a wall hard as shit. And in comparison to the previous scenes in the game, where OB1 had trouble holding a door open by himself, i'd say its pretty impressive. And the point he meant about density (i think) was the fact that the statue was MUCH heavier and thusly harder to move. That being said, I still believe Vader to have a much stronger command over the force and is in much more control.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/436149_3-darth-vader-runs-the-gauntlet6th post down might help.
Anyway, I'll agree that on paper, it may seem like Anakin has a slight edge over Vader, when you take into account all their powers and skill, but, then again, on paper, Anakin would crush Obi Wan into the ground... fast.
What gave Obi the win, then? He knew Anakin, much like Vader does. They both know his strengths and weaknesses. They both know what he is capable of with the force and with a saber. They are both level-headed, while Anakin is brash and arrogant.
Considering the fact that Vader knows everything about Anakin, and, has shown superior force powers, and could use them as a method to take Anakin out, I'd say Vader after a tough fight. He is smart enough to use the force against him.If Mace can survive long enough against Sidious (he has a good chance, seeing as Sidious tends to take some time to seek out an advantage, and Vader is using the force to overwhelm Anakin, something that might take less time than a lightsaber battle would), then Sidious is double-teamed an loses.
Close fight, though.
Does anyone agree, or, at least have anything to say to this?
Originally posted by The Sith'ari
I still don't think Vader has shown superior force powers. Quality > Quantity, and I haven't seen him do anything above what Anakin did in RotS.
That's your opinion, but, I think he has. At least Vader has far better force displays than Obi Wan, who still beat him, due to knowing all about him. Vader has that same advantage, only, more so, seeing as how Anakin knows nothing of Vader, and, Vader knows, well, everything about Anakin. Vader is also more calm and tactical, which, against a hot-head like Anakin, will help a lot.