Exar and Ulic vs. Yoda and Obi-Wan

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You're not understanding. Without the "force" to guide him, he would be as useful with a lightsaber as that tool who shot him. Sylvar was an average Jedi and he STALEMATED her in saber combat, without any use of the force. That is indeed an accomplishment and it speaks volumes about his saber abilities.

See now you can't prove that. Now I know your exaggerating the "he would be as useful with a lightsaber as that tool who shot him." because that guy was out of shape, fat, had no previous knowledge at all. Now, Ulic who is for is age still in tremendous shape, was a previously a very powerful Jedi, and had trained his entire life in saber combat, now you think just because he lost the force all of his saber knowledge goes out the window? Now admittedly as I said he doesn't have the "look here" "move here" that the force aids with, but its hardly needed when your simply dodging and defending STRAIGHT FOREWORD attacks from some bum showing NO SKILL at all. Now I could understand if he was dueling someone who was flipping, using skill, and not just charging. But he wasn't it was shit stain Sylvar.

Ulic'll lose fast to Yoda in most scenarios, but the Force sinches i.

And Ulic held off an average Jedi who was out of her mind. He also spent most of the fight fleeing from her.

Key term, Ulic held off an average Jedi. She had the force, he didn't, yet he held her off, therefore he is somewhat exceptional at saber combat.

Ok, you guys are crazy, Sylvar wasn't just an average jedi, she was a jedi master, one of the champions and war heroes of the Sith War and she has many feats backing up that she was exceptional; off the top of my head, owning multiple (at least three) strong Massasi warriors in seconds with just her bare hands, sneaking up on Oss Wilum and knocking him out with the hilt of her lightsaber, and defeating Exar Kun as a padawan.

hasn't Advent ripped you to pieces regarding this? Massassi warriors couldn't even take a planet defended by four Jedi, how incredible.

And wow, Oss Willum, focused on a battle in a situaion that anyone could've taken advantage of!

and beating Exar as a padawan? Oh, right, Luke must've won his first fight against Vader by hitting his shoulder...

Sylvar was a pretty sad excuse for a Jedi

hasn't Advent ripped you to pieces regarding this?

Being owned by the antediluvian 24/7 didn't stop you from coming up with Sidious arguments, and Advent never owned me, it was probably the best I ever did against her.

Massassi warriors couldn't even take a planet defended by four Jedi, how incredible.

Elaborate, I have no clue what you're talking about.

And wow, Oss Willum, focused on a battle in a situaion that anyone could've taken advantage of!

Focused? Please, all he was doing was casually watching events unfold. And precognition, much?

and beating Exar as a padawan? Oh, right, Luke must've won his first fight against Vader by hitting his shoulder...

It was a perfectly valid win against Exar, don't be ridiculous. The difference here is that Vader wasn't going full out against Luke.

Sylvar was a pretty sad excuse for a Jedi

Hardly, I'd put her above most PT jedi.

You'll notice that bringing up arguments that have nothing to do with this don't help you...especially as quite a few of the Antediluvians have been convinced.

Massassi couldn't take Coruscant defended by four Jedi in the Hyperspace war. WOW!
Oss Willum was the one controlling the Hsiss, remember?
and in your delusional little world, do 'valid wins' consist of getting your ass tossed to the ground while someone has to stop the guy from cutting you in half.

And Sylvar above most PT Jedi? She was a loser in her time.

Originally posted by The Sith'ari
Ok, you guys are crazy, Sylvar wasn't just an average jedi, she was a [b]jedi master, one of the champions and war heroes of the Sith War and she has many feats backing up that she was exceptional; off the top of my head, owning multiple (at least three) strong Massasi warriors in seconds with just her bare hands, sneaking up on Oss Wilum and knocking him out with the hilt of her lightsaber, and defeating Exar Kun as a padawan. [/B]

R U SERIOUS? Sylvar was a joke, since when does beating random Massasi = strong? Didn't Cay beat those same ones? And really as said in the Hyperspace Wars they couldn't take a planet with FOUR Jedi defending it, there was an ARMY of them. sneaking up on Oss Wilum and knocking him out with the hilt of her lightsaber, you just showed how shitty that was, "Oh great she can sneak well!!" When did she beat Kun? By scratching him on the face? LOL.

I'm starting to think Nebaris is a mental nutcase. Yea Nebaris, SYLVAR RULES!! Jk, average Jedi at best, tool.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
It's irrelevant how good Sylvar was? Even if she was an average Jedi, she still had the force, while Ulic didn't. That's like a normal human being able to block blaster bolts without the force.

http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=128&page=011

Sorry. I couldn't resist.

Anyway, why is Ulic anything special in the force? At least Exar has used his amulet blasts and can hide behind that argument.

He unleashed a considerable amount of dark side energy considering he has a talisman.

Ok, i think the point here is: can yoda take down ullic or exar before obi being killed. If yoda kills one of them until obi-wan being killed, i think he can beat the other one after a tough fight, however, against the 2 of you, i think he would lose.

The fight would be like this: while ulic fights yoda, exar fights obi-wan. After a while exar kills obi-wan with a lightsaber strike/dark side power. When yoda sees this he uses the force to push back ullic and knock him out. Yoda and exar engages in a fight. After a while, exar is losing ground and yoda is getting the upper hand, however, before yoda could finish exar, he is hit by a force power: ullic is back. Exar joins with ullic and after some extra minuts, yoda is killed, probably not before hurting one of them.

By the way, stop with the bullshit "Exar wins due to his amulet". This is the same i saying that i can beat myke tyson since i bring a shotgun with me...