Biggest question not answered by Ted and Terry

Started by Chiki Mina11 pages

I don't care about the meal, the waffle, pancakes, french toast etc, etc.

If you are sure that what got him vexed was Liz, then why ask himself "Why is the Rum always gone?"

If you remember in T&T comment on the dvd, he mentions about it and explains on how Jack remember the beach scene with Elizabeth.

Kate: I think he may actually already have a child. The comment about Jack knowing what he wants but being loathe to claim it as his own just made me wonder, because Elizabeth isn't really 'his' to claim...and I don't think Tia was talking about the heart.

DMC Tia's shack Scene.

Tia: The compass you bartered from me. It cannot lead you to this?
Jack: Maybe, why?
Tia: Ah, Jack Sparrow does not know what he wants! Or do you know, but are loathe to claim it as your own? Your key go to a chest. And it's what lay inside the chest you seek. Don't it?
Gibbs: What is inside?
Pintel: Gold? Jewels? Unclaimed properties of a valuable nature?
Ragetti [looking at a jar of eyeballs]: Nothing bad, I hope.
Tia: You know of Davy Jones, yes? A man of the sea, a great sailor. Till he run afoul of that which vex all men.
Will: What vexes all men?
Tia: What indeed?
Gibbs: Well, the sea.
Pintel: Sums.
Ragetti: The dichotomy of good and evil.
Jack:.A woman.
Tia: A woman. He fell in love.

They were obviously not talking about a kid in that scene.

^^ The kid's mommy is what's vexed him. ๐Ÿ˜„ And Lizzie. hehe

lol I'm pretty certain there is only one child in this story.

Also remember that they took out the part of the script that suggested Jack had been vexed since the day he left Liz at port Royal

If he had a kid before then..he would have been vexed in movie 1.

Originally posted by Surreal_44
^^ The kid's mommy is what's vexed him. ๐Ÿ˜„ And Lizzie. hehe

WoW I'm impress again. Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you just typed that Liz is vexing Jack? ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

maybe they're the same person๐Ÿ˜ฎ

I'm sorry but two children at the end of this movie would be overkill. Unless they have will junior running to his dad and as he's running he morphs into Jack Jr and jumps into Jack's his arms and reveals another lady...anna Maria? Tia?

No because Dominic Scott Kay is white, they are implying that he is playing the younger version of Jack..so not one of those two I'm afraid..and a new female character suddenly appearing at the end is bound to not give us any emotional attachment to her and thus creates a crappy ending for Jack sparrow, the single most important character to the entire franchise..whilst second fiddle Will gets the most meaningful ending with Elizabeth?? doubt it..if T&T do that then they truly are insane.

sorry just me imagining cinematic ideas..I'm a film studies student after all lol

Ok, Surreal, you're saying he is vexed by two women? You're loosing credibility here.

Credibility is not the only thing she is loosing. ๐Ÿ™„

there are not two children LOLZIES

Not so sure about not being two kids if you count Will in it ๐Ÿ˜› lol

Anyways seriosuly, there is no point arguing anymore if Jack spread his seed like a black plague around the world. He does not have a kid at this point of the movie.

Jack had an unusual experience and met his match with only one woman: Elizabeth.

So the possibility of two kids and Jack being vexed by two women, is out. Seriously, scratch it.

So the possibility of two kids and Jack being vexed by two women, is out. Seriously, scratch it.

That is so far fetch, there is no way that we will have the possibility of two kids. Come on Surreal you know this is not going to happen. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Hi

jack can't be vexed by two women because she would already be of impotartance in the trilogy, also the only other love jack had was tia Dalma and i seriously doubt he had a kid with her or we would already have seen it. if Jack was thinking of another women wouldn't you think t and t would of said something about that.

If Jack would have been thinking of another woman, I don't think TnT would have openly said it. But they would have hinted or implied that he was indeed thinking of another woman besides Liz. The movie doesn't openly say that he was indeed thinking about Liz. And neither the writers, but is very well hinted and implied in the movie. The audiences very well caught all the hints, and that's how it was intended in the first place.

Then if there aren't two kids, the only kid is W/E's. Seriously. I'm not joking. Sorry guys. Oh, or Liz could be pregnant with Will's kid, when we have a reunion between Jack and his son.

Since W/E end up together, how would you explain J/E child? Hmmm?

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's stick to the facts. I for one, am not going to assume there's already a kid running around. Jack and Liz have not had sex, Will and Liz have not had sex. As far as we know, Will and Liz both are virgins, especially Liz since the writers made it a point to show she's tired of being one. The only piece of evidence that Jack has a kid somewhere is that he gets more ass than....well, something that gets a lot of ass. He's had A LOT of sex in his time. But...

1. no mention of a child is made
2. no reference of a child is implied. I think some people are overthinking that one.
3. There were methods of birth control back then, not as effective as today, but they were there and I bet you at least a few strumpets took advantage of that.

Jack is vexed because he knows he's going to die soon, pure and simple. And he's falling in love, which is vexing enough to any person, but especially vexing when you're separated from that person, not sure how that person feels, and knowing you might die soon and you won't get to be with them. That's enough to make anyone vexed.

I still don't get the full point of this thread.

Surreal, ou can't confirm that W/E will end up together nor we can confirm J/E will end up together.

This kid buisness all I know is he is the younger version of Jack.

So lets get down to serious stuff Surreal, don't loose your credibility.

Jack had his share of women , no doubt. Actually in the 18th century they used these methods to protect themselves to not get pregnant. So, I'm sure the our precious POTC wenches wouldn't mind taking them.

Ted and Terry made a clear point that Will and Liz are virgins. And you know it. Liz frustrated over her wedding night--her first sex. And Will still being a "eunich" mentioned on the island.

I know you're smarter than this.

I am smart, thank you, Chiki. ๐Ÿ˜„

I may or may not be able to confirm W/E, but I would say, of course, that most of the evidence and the few spoilers I have tend to point in that direction.

From what I understand, W/E have a child together. If this Dominic kid is Jack's then my understanding is that it would not be Elizabeth's...hence my conclusion that Jack is vexed partially because he knows about the child, wants to be included in that child's life, but isn't entirely sure.

Of course no mention of a child would be mentioned in DMC, because that would have interrupted the story-line unnecessarily, and ruined the chemistry of J/E...which had to end with a kiss so that Jack could die.

It's not just a random idea I'm tossing out. ๐Ÿ˜„ I've put at least fifteen minutes of thought into it, and I've had this theory for a long time...just ask Lovely. I pm'd it to her a looong time ago. Back in Nov., I think.

Surreal, ou can't confirm that W/E will end up together nor we can confirm J/E will end up together.

This kid buisness all I know is he is the younger version of Jack.

So lets get down to serious stuff Surreal, don't loose your credibility.

Jack had his share of women , no doubt. Actually in the 18th century they used these methods to protect themselves to not get pregnant. So, I'm sure the our precious POTC wenches wouldn't mind taking them.

Ted and Terry made a clear point that Will and Liz are virgins. And you know it. Liz frustrated over her wedding night--her first sex. And Will still being a "eunich" mentioned on the island.

I know you're smarter than this.

LOL ๐Ÿ˜‚