Oh, I almost missed this:
LovelyOne wrote :
you're kinda implying that Surreal isnt credible. IMO she is.
Thank you, Lovely. I know I get rude on here sometimes, but I think you understand maybe more than anyone else what it feels like to have an entire forum against you. 😉 So yeah, I blow up. But it does mean something to me that you would vouch for me, 'cause I respect you and your opinions. 😄
I really can't reveal sources, not only because I don't want to get anyone in trouble, but I am extremely careful to not keep track of who tells me what or where I happen to find bits of information. 😄 That way, all secrets are safe and we can still all be surprised when the movie comes out.
I do believe Will and Elizabeth are married in AWE. Now whether or not they remain married, or one (Wil?) dies, I don't know. LovelyOne's theory that the child is Will's but Jack helps raise it is as good a theory as any (and much better than an illegitimate child of anyone's ) 😄
Originally posted by Surreal_44
Oh, I almost missed this:[B]LovelyOne wrote
:Thank you, Lovely. I know I get rude on here sometimes, but I think you understand maybe more than anyone else what it feels like to have an entire forum against you. 😉 So yeah, I blow up. But it does mean something to me that you would vouch for me, 'cause I respect you and your opinions. 😄 [/B]
We all share the same love for POTC. So we are not agaisnt you. And, hopefully, you don't think I'am either.
We have an accord, Chiki. 😉
And to show my good faith, here is the real (ok, not really) story of the child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxw7gR-jhyI Highly entertaining if you haven't seen it. I think it's up to part nine now 😄
Originally posted by willofthewisp
I love kids, Surreal, and even I don't want one in it. It takes "Pirates of the Caribbean" and turns it into "Days of Our Lives." This is a pirate movie! Sure, it's about relationships and learning more about one's self, of course. But all that is in the backdrop of a violent, adventure-ride kind of environment and I think it's wrong for them to bring in a kid for dramatic effect. There are problems all around.1. It's Will and Liz's kid. Okay, great. These two fairytale lovers had a kid out of wedlock in a Disney movie. Jack's been left out in the dust and we all get a happily ever after ending that satisfies not even the most ardent W/L shippers.
2. It's Will's kid and Will dies. Holy crap, Jack raising someone else's kid? No. That's too much like Pearl Harbor and about a dozen other movies and I think T&T are more original than that.
3. It's Jack and Liz's kid. But who knows that besides Liz? I can see the scene where she tells Will being too cringe-worthy, and if she doesn't tell Will, he's left raising another guy's kid and Jack doesn't get to see his son? That's a modern-day custody battle, not POTC-worthy.
4. It's Jack's kid by another woman. Then why the hell would we care?
All in all, I think it's unoriginal to bring in a child. I don't think it's a creative or smart choice even though I do believe Jack probably wants a child by now. I think it would be more satisfying to let him get with Liz (or some other woman) and they get together and we know down the road he will be a father.
sometimes i just want to send you fan mail. that was hilarious. 🙂
Originally posted by Surreal_44
We have an accord, Chiki. 😉And to show my good faith, here is the real (ok, not really) story of the child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxw7gR-jhyI Highly entertaining if you haven't seen it. I think it's up to part nine now 😄
i cant find part nine. darn, now i'm hooked. this is really, really funny. what a great idea--- to narrate it that way. 🙂 thanks for sharing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NssOMv4Ns1A&mode=related&search=
These are so funny, people! Surreal was really onto something. I can't stop laughing!
I am losing my everloving mind, but I had this dream last night and you can say what you want, but some people work out their issues during sleep and this is what I dreamed.
Lizzy and Jack wind up with Jack's Dad in a cove and Jack tells his Dad about Gov Swann dying and there is the following conversation:
TS: I am sorry to hear that my dear. Your Father and I grew up together and I have not seen him since I posted to Singapore with EITC many years ago. In fact you and Jack played together several times when Jack's mother and I would visit your family.
Lizzy turns to Jack and cocks that eyebrow.
Lizzy: So, you knew this all along.
Lizzy experiences a flashback to her childhood in the garden of an estate outside of London with a little boy (Dominic Scott Kay) who is sailing a boat in the pond with the swans. She walks up to him and he turns and smiles that everlovin' Jack smile at her and said "I'm going to be a captain of a ship some day and maybe a pirate." Lizzy then realizes that Jack is talking to her.
Jack: I did not. I only remembered fully when he mentioned it. But that would explain why my compass has been helter skelter since I left you in Port Royal. Truth is Lizzy, I have always loved you, just didn't remember til we were left on that beach by Barbossa.
Lizzy: I remember too, Jack. I remember you saying you wanted to be a captain of a ship and maybe a pirate when you grew up. I guess that is why I have always been fascinated with pirates. You were the first to ever mention them to me.
Teague: Nice reminiscents you two, but time and tide is of the essence. We gotta go.
Originally posted by calypso
I am losing my everloving mind, but I had this dream last night and you can say what you want, but some people work out their issues during sleep and this is what I dreamed.Lizzy and Jack wind up with Jack's Dad in a cove and Jack tells his Dad about Gov Swann dying and there is the following conversation:
TS: I am sorry to hear that my dear. Your Father and I grew up together and I have not seen him since I posted to Singapore with EITC many years ago. In fact you and Jack played together several times when Jack's mother and I would visit your family.
Lizzy turns to Jack and cocks that eyebrow.
Lizzy: So, you knew this all along.
Lizzy experiences a flashback to her childhood in the garden of an estate outside of London with a little boy (Dominic Scott Kay) who is sailing a boat in the pond with the swans. She walks up to him and he turns and smiles that everlovin' Jack smile at her and said "I'm going to be a captain of a ship some day and maybe a pirate." Lizzy then realizes that Jack is talking to her.
Jack: I did not. I only remembered fully when he mentioned it. But that would explain why my compass has been helter skelter since I left you in Port Royal. Truth is Lizzy, I have always loved you, just didn't remember til we were left on that beach by Barbossa.
Lizzy: I remember too, Jack. I remember you saying you wanted to be a captain of a ship and maybe a pirate when you grew up. I guess that is why I have always been fascinated with pirates. You were the first to ever mention them to me.
Teague: Nice reminiscents you two, but time and tide is of the essence. We gotta go.
Ahh, Calypso...I love this...this would be so great if this were in the real movie.....