Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Already dealt with all that. Owned you in that whole planet ecosystem thing.Storm's winds are not stronger then nuclear weapons, something I also proved. Neither are they stronger then combined blows from Thor or She-Hulk, the attack from Galactus, the all-out attack from Phoenix...
Do you read ANYTHING from the previous threads, or are you just ignorant? And obviously, the winds portrayed in the instance where they "broke through Magneto's forcefields" were pretty f*cking weak considering that they didn't even hurt Magneto WITHOUT his forcefield. Funny.
You can keep whining as much as you want, continue with all kinds of bullshit that you want, but Magneto has taken stronger attacks then ANY wind Storm has created with ease.
And you still have failed to show proof that the EM field was somehow weaker when Magneto manipulated it, and failed to understand that Magneto did not need the machine to manipulate the field in the second instance, but CONTINUE to exert his influence over it, something that also was stated in the comic.
I will address your post by paragrahp:
1) I owned you on the whole eco-system thing.
2) Storm winds are more powerful than a nucler bomb. Regular hurricanes and tornadoes are not, but Storm winds have done feats many times that are far stronger than those. Your argument here is weak and falls apart when Storm starts pulling things like lifting skyscrapers or flying from NEw Orleans to NEw Yrok in a matter of minutes or her winds given the credit to level mountains or her winds smashing Magnto's force-field. Galactus is more powerful than Storm's winds, true, but that blast he threw was not. It did not even tax Magneto's powers. Your whole argument falls apart in Uncanny 150 when Magneto states that her winds taxed his power greatly to withstand. Magneto withstood that attack from Phoenix, true, but in the same issue Storm overpowered him. Again, this shoots your argument down. Also, Claremont stated in an interview which 2damnloud already posted when we last debated this were CC said that Storm had the power of a goddess and her powers were equal to Phoenix. This issue actually indicates that STorm may have been slightly more powerful than Phoenix.
3) The winds did not smash Magneto's body because they were not directly battering him. She knocked his force-field down and then used the vacuum of the winds to try and lift him and suck the air from him. Magneto did not say the winds were battering his body directly. You are reading into the book. The winds knocked his force field down and STorm used the winds then to attack MAgneto directly by trying to lift him and suffocate him just as the book states.
4) Magneto has not not taken anything stronger than Storm's winds. Her winds are far beyond real life and this is just one more instance in a string of many that proves it.
5) My whole point about the EM fields being in a different state when Magneto blasted it in Fatal Attractions was not that it was weakened or Magneto was amplified. What I was arguing was at the time Magneto blasted the field and it resulted in a global EM pulse, the field was warped to such an extreme by Forge's machine that Magneto himself could not use his powers within the planatery atmosphere. The field would have backfired and kill him. I assert that because the field was already so warped, when he blasted it and caused the global pulse, there were extenuating circumstances surrounding the condition of the field. I do not believe that he would have been able to accomplish this if the fields were no so tampered with prior to the blast. In Magneto War, Magneto manipulated the fields to turn off the power and hold the world hostage and blackmail everyone. There were no extraordinary ccircumstances surrounding the condition of the fields in this story and he had to invent a machine to boost his powers so he could accomplish this feat. Now, you have to prove that Magneto can accomplish feat without any extreme tampering of the field as there was in the Fatal Attractions story and without the aid of a machine or drug enhancement. Does anyone else see what I am getting at here? I think I am stating this very plainly as I have always done. I really think this guy is intentionally misinterpreting my explanation and stating something that dodges around the issue I bring up since he can't refute it. Now, I ask you as you asked me: Do you read anything from previous threads or posts or do you just dodge around what I say since my logic is sound and you can't refute me?
