Originally posted by 2damnloudHer powers as depicted for the most part are perfectly plausible within comics. I'm not arguing that they aren't.
UHHH, still looking for the lack plausibility with regards to her POWERS.
However you're saying Magneto can't manipulate hemoglobin in comics despite that writers have made him do such or similar on multiple occasions because he wouldn't be able to outside of comics; while continuing to maintain that a woman can fly on wind and manipulate weather, shoot self-generated lightning from her hands, and so on.
Heavens to Betsy, there's some bad science involved in the portrayal of Magneto's powers. Whatever shall we do.
Stay out of the Louvre pyramid.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
UHHH, still looking for the lack plausibility with regards to her POWERS.Mags controls the electromagnetic spectrum, yet can magnetize things that are not MAGNETIC??? PLASTIC and HEMOGLOBIN are not MAGNETIC 😆 *stitches*
Is Iron oxide magnetic also??? Nope. 😆
Plausibility or PIS???
Whatever.
well, like every other storm thread, this comes again to magneto.
Why doesn't somebody just make a storm vs magneto thread?
anyways, there are several reasons why Magneto CAN and SHOULD be able to magnetize any form of matter, regardless of whether or not said matter is magnetic in its molecular assembly.
Basically, with the exception of the strong and weak nuclear forces holding sub atomic particles in place and the very weak pull of gravity, all motion at the sub atomic level is dictated by the passing of an electromagnetic charge from one unit to another. Basically, because Magneto can manipulate sub atomic magnetic fields, all matter is manipulable to him.
While that is a good scientific explanation, I'm sure if you tried, there would be no end to the things you could find us claiming that have no scientific basis. For instance, Peter Parker was bitten by a radioactive spider and got spider powers. In another time line, this affected his genetics enough to pass these powers onto his child. In any realistic scientific theory, that makes no sense. There is no way to justify the origin of Spider-man with modern science.
This brings up the most important point. The reason that Magneto can magnetize plastic or iron in the blood has nothing to do with any realistic scientific explanation. If the theory regarding the manipulation of sub atomic EM fields didn't work, it would not matter. These things have happened on panel in a 616 book. And that is the only reason why it is applicable here.
If plausibility were the only prerequisite for a valid argument, there are so many things that we could come up with. Spider-Man should create sonic booms as he punches given how fast his fists move. However, he doesn't. Not because it isn't good science, or not that it isn't plausible, it is that it has not happened on panel.
So yes, it is plausible and probably a realistic assumption to give storm these powers if we apply real world physics and mechanisms to what she can do. However, that is not valid argumentation on these forums. That type of logic allows for massive power upgrades through creative applications of science to things that weren't created by scientists. IT MUST BE ON PANEL.
Furthermore...
Frog levitating in a magnetic field:
http://www.hfml.ru.nl/pics/Movies/frog.mpg
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Furthermore...Frog levitating in a magnetic field:
http://www.hfml.ru.nl/pics/Movies/frog.mpg
I saw that press release on livescience.com
they had a video of a fish, crazy stuff 🙂
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Her powers as depicted for the most part are perfectly plausible within comics. I'm not arguing that they aren't.However you're saying Magneto can't manipulate hemoglobin in comics despite that writers have made him do such or similar on multiple occasions because he wouldn't be able to outside of comics; while continuing to maintain that a woman can fly on wind and manipulate weather, shoot self-generated lightning from her hands, and so on.
Heavens to Betsy, there's some bad science involved in the portrayal of Magneto's powers. Whatever shall we do.
Stay out of the Louvre pyramid.
Well I'm mainly bringing this up to say that his, and other people are given powers that work outside of the perameters of their ability. When storm stretches the boudaries of her powers just a little, it's is labelled PIS or bad writing.
If infact storm can fly a distance of several thousand miles in "muntes", and her method of flight is predicated on the winds she can create to propel her. We can deduce that she can create winds well over 2,000 miles per hour.
Storm controls the weather...she controoooooollllls the weather. That's her power. This can entail the creation, direction, and intensity of a tornado at her leisure.
Magneto controls the electromagnetic spectrum.....the electroMAGNETIC spectrum. Plastic and hemoglobin are not magnetic.
People but too many perameters on storm's powers within these fights. Her thoughts are slower and everything😆
Can Storm control the electrical activity in one's body??? That's up for debate. Once again, she would have to be shown to control the electrons IN objects. But once again, in order for her to make lightning she has to control the electrical activity in the clouds and air via the alteration of her perception. It can be debated. I dunno if it's Plausible though. I mean everyone else does it. Iceman with water, Mag's with Hemoglobin, Jean with Molecules, etc.
It's all fun though.
Originally posted by 2damnloudDo you not read what was being posted?
Well I'm mainly bringing this up to say that his, and other people are given powers that work outside of the perameters of their ability. When storm stretches the boudaries of her powers just a little, it's is labelled PIS or bad writing.If infact storm can fly a distance of several thousand miles in "muntes", and her method of flight is predicated on the winds she can create to propel her. We can deduce that she can create winds well over 2,000 miles per hour.
Storm controls the weather...she controoooooollllls the weather. That's her power. This can entail the creation, direction, and intensity of a tornado at her leisure.
Magneto controls the electromagnetic spectrum.....the electroMAGNETIC spectrum. Plastic and hemoglobin are not magnetic.
People but too many perameters on storm's powers within these fights. Her thoughts are slower and everything😆
Can Storm control the electrical activity in one's body??? That's up for debate. Once again, she would have to be shown to control the electrons IN objects. But once again, in order for her to make lightning she has to control the electrical activity in the clouds and air via the alteration of her perception. It can be debated. I dunno if it's Plausible though. I mean everyone else does it. Iceman with water, Mag's with Hemoglobin, Jean with Molecules, etc.
It's all fun though.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Magneto controls the electromagnetic spectrum.....the electroMAGNETIC spectrum. Plastic and hemoglobin are not magnetic.
The electromagnetic spectrum is affected differently at different scales.
At a molecular level, yes, the arrangement of the atoms in plastic molecules are not magnetic
however, at a sub atomic level, they are dictated by electromagnetic activity.
Electromagnetism is one of the 4 fundamental forces of the universe. It has recently been connected in many ways to weak nuclear force, almost combining them into one force. Electromagnetism is MUCH MUCH MUCH more than simply magnetic metals.
Originally posted by 2damnloudI'm assuming you're referring to New Orleans to Westchester. No real timeframe is given, and she doesn't consistently show Mach 6 flightspeed. Anything that pushes the boundaries of a characters powers too far, such as Magneto creating a wormhole, should be taken with a grain of salt.
Well I'm mainly bringing this up to say that his, and other people are given powers that work outside of the perameters of their ability. When storm stretches the boudaries of her powers just a little, it's is labelled PIS or bad writing.If infact storm can fly a distance of several thousand miles in "muntes", and her method of flight is predicated on the winds she can create to propel her. We can deduce that she can create winds well over 2,000 miles per hour.
Originally posted by 2damnloudNot ferromagnetic. Didn't you see the frog.
Plastic and hemoglobin are not magnetic.
Look, strawberry:
http://www.hfml.ru.nl/pics/Movies/strawberry.mpg
Originally posted by 2damnloudHer thought processes are normal as far as I know. Unless someone has something that shows otherwise.
People but too many perameters on storm's powers within these fights. Her thoughts are slower and everything😆
Originally posted by 2damnloudIceman is a specialised hydrokinetic/cryokinetic, Magneto manipulates electromagnetism, and Jean is a telekinetic. When Storm does it on panel or something similar to a person, good for her, but until then she can't.
Can Storm control the electrical activity in one's body??? That's up for debate. Once again, she would have to be shown to control the electrons IN objects. But once again, in order for her to make lightning she has to control the electrical activity in the clouds and air via the alteration of her perception. It can be debated. I dunno if it's Plausible though. I mean everyone else does it. Iceman with water, Mag's with Hemoglobin, Jean with Molecules, etc.It's all fun though.
Originally posted by 2damnloudIt was sarcastic because it clearly said that it is the iron in the blood and you repeated the same question over again, you had three different people answer your question and you still repeated the same question.
No, you just asked a sarcastic question and I gave you a sarcastic answer.How can I NOT be reading what's being posted, if I'm RESPONDING to what's being posted??? 🙄
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
He can breathe in a vacuum? I have seen him adapt to being under water, but I haven't seen him adapt to the vacuum of space, only read that Nick Fury said there is a chance he could adapt.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Wow, someone is upset. If Spider-man can knock out the Hulk, then there is a chance that storm could. Stop saying things like "it's a fact you don't know what you are talking about". Hulk has lost to Spidey and a 20 foot snake. Comics are unpredictable. The Weather God is presenting ways Storm could fend for herself, and ways she can attack the Hulk.
The truck that Spidey used to knock him out must have been filled with the same cement that stopped Juggernaut.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
And that is why I don't read any DC, because of stuff like that and the galaxy sneezing superman.The Hulk used to be cool to me. But him adapting to breathing under water, and this claim he can survive in space and without food for who knows how long is getting ridiculous. I liked the thought of him have weak points. But now if he is ever written to his full ability no one could ever beat him, same goes with Superman. Its a wonder why either of these guys ever lose. Yet you see Hulk passing out because of a snake, and Spidey knocking him out with a truck.
He's far from unbeatable, despite what Devil Hulk/Goblin says.