Originally posted by Rutog98
Storm is a Phoenix-level character. She's madpowerful. There is no doubt about it unless you just want to ignore her power feats. Hulk is the annoyance in this fight. He's way outgunned.
And yet it took Storm going all out and Cable to beat Hulk when Onslaught was controling him.
Originally posted by ThePittman
Phoenix (Rachel Summers) maybe, but the galaxy eating entity then they are high on crack.
Storm has summoned the full power of millons of stars. She has the potential to evolve into a true goddess and wield infinite power.
She has the ability to perceive the universe as patterns of energy and forces and bend it to her will.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
confused1Thats a joke right? Cause infinite power puts her above many cosmics.
The interviewer (someone called Richard Burton, I'll abbreviate it to RB) is asking Chris various questions, working through the characters...
"RB: Storm next...
Chris Claremont: Storm is basically what she is...a goddess, a three-dimensional goddess, if such a thing is possible.
RB: When the new X-Men first appeared Storm was probably the most powerful and dramatic member. Do you feel now that she's been slightly upstaged by Phoenix?
Chris Claremont: No. In equal terms of raw power, they're approximately equal.
Jean can maintain a higher burst...she can peak higher than Storm but she can't hold it for long. The thing with Storm is that all we've done till now is show her throwing lightning bolts and creating hurricanes, but she can do far more. Phoenix is more visual - the 'bird effect' is more spectacular. So the gist of it is that they complement each other. They do different things in different ways."
Okay, there is the interview. Now, here is Uncanny 145-147: (The cover of 147 stated "We did it once, dare we do it again," in allusion to the Dark Phoenix Saga.)
As stated in that interview, Storm's powers are equal to Phoenix. However, at that time, Phoenix's powers were tempered by Jean's humanity. Same holds true for Ororo. Her powers are tempered by her humanity. In the case of Phoenix, when Jean's humanity was removed, nothing was there to restrain the power and DP was born. It had near-infinite power, but kept growing and reaching for ultimate power. However, it was stopped before that. DP stated that she had limits still and did not like this. This was before she consumed the star. However, the Watcher let us know that DP could have attained ultimate power and been second only to the Creator had she kept going and not been stopped.
In the case of Storm, when her humanity was stripped, she also had near-infinite power and was reaching for ultimate power. It was in her grasp. However, she brought herself under control rather than continuining down that mad god road of the DP. Both had the potential to grasp ultimate power in their reach. Storm simply refused it while Phoenix was stopped before she reached it.
If Storm were to let go of her blocks and delve into her powers and kept reaching for the higher power levels, she would reach ultimate and unlimited power.
We know in Uncanny 165-166 that Storm can perceive the universe as patterns of energy and forces and bend it to its will. This includes stars, planets, empty space, etc.
Right now, Storm has the power of a goddess, but she is limited to her flesh and blood body. However, as stated in X-Treme issue 5, she will one day transcend humanity and evolve into a true goddess.
Finally. The two characters are represented realistically.
The Hulk doesn't have a shot in hell at Thor, and neither does Ororo. Neither could either of them deal with the Silver Surfer or Superman or any of the other opponents they've been misplaced against.
This fight actually isn't that bad. I'm not sure who'd come out the victor.
Originally posted by Soljer
Finally. The two characters are represented realistically.The Hulk doesn't have a shot in hell at Thor, and neither does Ororo. Neither could either of them deal with the Silver Surfer or Superman or any of the other opponents they've been misplaced against.
This fight actually isn't that bad. I'm not sure who'd come out the victor.
Wait....people are actually implying Storm could hang with Thor???
What the hell is this world coming to?!!! 😆 😱 😕 🙁
Originally posted by Rutog98I have to say that is the first time I have heard of her even close to that level, so I will have to give you props for that and probably the first good response to a legitimate fight. However as the article says she is still limited to her current powers and that is not enough to take down the Hulk, if bloodlust was on then that would be a different matter.
it was 1979 from Rampage Magazine(UK)The interviewer (someone called Richard Burton, I'll abbreviate it to RB) is asking Chris various questions, working through the characters...
"RB: Storm next...
Chris Claremont: Storm is basically what she is...a goddess, a three-dimensional goddess, if such a thing is possible.
RB: When the new X-Men first appeared Storm was probably the most powerful and dramatic member. Do you feel now that she's been slightly upstaged by Phoenix?
Chris Claremont: No. In equal terms of raw power, they're approximately equal.
Jean can maintain a higher burst...she can peak higher than Storm but she can't hold it for long. The thing with Storm is that all we've done till now is show her throwing lightning bolts and creating hurricanes, but she can do far more. Phoenix is more visual - the 'bird effect' is more spectacular. So the gist of it is that they complement each other. They do different things in different ways."
Okay, there is the interview. Now, here is Uncanny 145-147: (The cover of 147 stated "We did it once, dare we do it again," in allusion to the Dark Phoenix Saga.)
As stated in that interview, Storm's powers are equal to Phoenix. However, at that time, Phoenix's powers were tempered by Jean's humanity. Same holds true for Ororo. Her powers are tempered by her humanity. In the case of Phoenix, when Jean's humanity was removed, nothing was there to restrain the power and DP was born. It had near-infinite power, but kept growing and reaching for ultimate power. However, it was stopped before that. DP stated that she had limits still and did not like this. This was before she consumed the star. However, the Watcher let us know that DP could have attained ultimate power and been second only to the Creator had she kept going and not been stopped.
In the case of Storm, when her humanity was stripped, she also had near-infinite power and was reaching for ultimate power. It was in her grasp. However, she brought herself under control rather than continuining down that mad god road of the DP. Both had the potential to grasp ultimate power in their reach. Storm simply refused it while Phoenix was stopped before she reached it.
If Storm were to let go of her blocks and delve into her powers and kept reaching for the higher power levels, she would reach ultimate and unlimited power.
We know in Uncanny 165-166 that Storm can perceive the universe as patterns of energy and forces and bend it to its will. This includes stars, planets, empty space, etc.
Right now, Storm has the power of a goddess, but she is limited to her flesh and blood body. However, as stated in X-Treme issue 5, she will one day transcend humanity and evolve into a true goddess.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Right now, Storm cannot. Though she can wield a ton of power now, her body limits her and she cannot access enough to beat a cosmic. At full potential, its very possible.
at full potential, teh writers could change any character's powers to do anything. Like X said - Jubilee could be written to do that
Not a valid argument.