Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Without having to do much debating or thinking, here's my equation.TPM Sidious>all versions of Bane
ROTS Sidious=ROTS Yoda, ergo
ROTS Yoda>BOTS Bane.The end(unless you are going to make us laugh with your pull the moon out of orbit thing).
Wrong!!!!
(It's still the end if he tries to make us laugh)
Originally posted by The Sith'ari
1. Where did you get the impression that TPM Sidious is > all versions of Bane?2. Make you laugh? How so? Do you not consider pulling a moon out of orbit uber?
1. Lightsnake has provided the sources on more than one occasion, ask him.
2. Stop parading around that, you never proved anything, you just make us laugh with your nonsense, then tell yourself you've proven your case. Denial doesn't work in logical debates.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
No. Why should we? Size matters not.
Size (well weight actually) does matter, unless you want to argue that Yoda'd lift up an apple as easily as an X Wing. Also, if that's what you truly believe, why do you always go on about Yoda's TK related feats?
1. Lightsnake has provided the sources on more than one occasion, ask him.
The source that he did provide has constantly been proven wrong. Also, if you don't truly understand what you're saying, why say it at all?
2. Stop parading around that, you never proved anything, you just make us laugh with your nonsense, then tell yourself you've proven your case. Denial doesn't work in logical debates.
1. This attitude really isn't necessary.
2. Yes I did, both Lightsnake and AC accepted it, when they originally didn't, and you have still yet to make a counter argument.
Originally posted by The Sith'ari
Size (well weight actually) does matter, unless you want to argue that Yoda'd lift up an apple as easily as an X Wing. Also, if that's what you truly believe, why do you always go on about Yoda's TK related feats?The source that he did provide has constantly been proven wrong. Also, if you don't truly understand what you're saying, why say it at all?
1. This attitude really isn't necessary.
2. Yes I did, both Lightsnake and AC accepted it, when they originally didn't, and you have still yet to make a counter argument.
Just because you wrote some crap, doesn't mean they have to refute it. There is no counter argument nor rebuttal for stupidity.
And no the source has never been proven wrong. Just because you can't accept it in your mind, doesn't make it wrong, tool.
1. They actually agreed with it Sexy..
2. Again, is the attitude really necessary?
3. Wrong, we've been over this so many times.
'When the Sith finally emerged from a thousand years of watching and waiting, they numbered in accordance with the tradition set down by Darth Bane, only two. The most powerful of these was Darth Sidious, an ice-cold, diabolically calculating genius equipped with the strengths of the dark side of the Force, as well as an enormous wealth of Sith artifacts, equipment, and knowledge. Perhaps the best weapon in his arsenal was his keen understanding of galactic politics, and his seemingly unlimited ability to engineer situations that ultimately served to further empower the sith'
You are referring to this, correct?
If so, then there are two major flaws.
1. 'The most powerful of these was Darth Sidious.' - you assume that the 'these' refers to the entire order of sith lords that was set down by Darth Bane, when it can just as easily be interpreted that the 'these' refers to the then current two sith lords. So basically, the argument is inconclusive, and can't be used.
2. Power is ambiguous, you can't deny this. Now when the passage states that Sidious is the most powerful, it also lists his weapons (some would define 'weapon' as 'tool of power', so to speak) as not only strength in the darkside, knowledge of the darkside, and an enormous wealth of artifacts and equipment, but also political knowledge and skills in manipulation; intellect related attributes, so in this context, power is clearly not purely related to combat prowess, but intellect as well.
Now please, this argument is flawed, how about you stop repeating it?
1. Size does matter, did Yoda life the pillar in AOTC as easily as Luke lifted his saber with the Force in Cloud City affter jumping out of the Carbon Freezing Pit? No, so eitehr ESB Luke >>> Yoda with the Force, or size does matter.
2. I'd probably go with Yoda over PoD Bane, sorry Sith'ari, but I think it'd be really close. I mean, Bane defeated Kas'im, and Kas'im was stated to be "the greatest living swordsman in the galaxy. Maybe the greatest swordsman ever." So yeah, it would definitely be close and Bane stands a chance but I'd probably give it to Yoda.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
The most powerful of these was Darth Sidious.Power is not ambiguous here. Darth Sidious is the most POWERFUL of the Sith. His best weapon was his mind, but his force power is still higher than any others.
Lightsnake, you are quite clearly wrong, just refer to my argument above, there's nothing more I can say to you.
Man, you just loooooove grasping at straws
Man, you just loooooove copying IKC.