If you were god

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Or really just of defining what God is. Since people can't/don't agree on that nothing can prove that it is God (baring the automatic ability to do via omnipotence).

I'm reminded of that scene in "Oh God," where Jerry (John Denver) is riding in his car with God (George Burns), and Jerry tells God He hasn't really done anything "Godlike" yet to prove His claim that He is, in fact, God. So God made it rain, and only inside Jerry's car. That did it for Jerry.

Heck. A number of superheroes could've done that.

If you were confronted by a being that claimed to be God, what proof would be sufficient? Is there any? Suppose this being was a master illusionist or had hidden transporter/replicator technology?

End excistence and then myself, whats the point of it all if I can do anything with Omnipotence but already know what any of my actions could do through Omnisicence, am already everywhere due to Omnipresence so theres nothing even to explore.

i would immediatley know the beginning and end of excistence if there was an end at all and every other excistence I wish there to be, so it would be pointless, I would leave excistence as white space.

Originally posted by Mindship
How would one prove omnipotence?

I'm reminded of that scene in "Oh God," where Jerry (John Denver) is riding in his car with God (George Burns), and Jerry tells God He hasn't really done anything "Godlike" yet to prove His claim that He is, in fact, God. So God made it rain, and only inside Jerry's car. That did it for Jerry.

Heck. A number of superheroes could've done that.

If you were confronted by a being that claimed to be God, what proof would be sufficient? Is there any? Suppose this being was a master illusionist or had hidden transporter/replicator technology?

Already brought that up.

Originally posted by Burning thought
End excistence and then myself, whats the point of it all if I can do anything with Omnipotence but already know what any of my actions could do through Omnisicence, am already everywhere due to Omnipresence so theres nothing even to explore.

i would immediatley know the beginning and end of excistence if there was an end at all and every other excistence I wish there to be, so it would be pointless, I would leave excistence as white space.

Racist.

Also, if you were omnipotent you could simply erase most of your omniscience and start dicking around.

the question was not if God could prove his own existence in an absolute sense to someone determined not to believe, but if God could make everyone believe he is God (forgoing the necessity of absolute proof).

So, yes, the Christian God is capable of convincing every person on Earth that he exists. Yes, Emma Frost may also be capable of this.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Already brought that up.

...so what was the outcome? My guess is, there would be no way to tell (Clark's Law and all that), at least, not based purely on empirical evidence.

Originally posted by Mindship
Oh God, I don't want to look through 13 other pages...

...so what was the outcome? My guess is, there would be no way to tell (Clark's Law and all that), at least, not based purely on empirical evidence.

It's one page back and never got resolved. I was simply defending my E-honor.

There is no way of providing empirical proof so . . . yeah. Inimalist pointed out the question I was responding to originally was simply if God could convince people not that he could prove it.

i would create a universal church that floats somewhere in the milky way. i would have my friends, family and ppl i like able to come and go and visit me and allow them to come and go through teleportation any where in the universe.

i would allow mankind a second chance to improve themselves giving everyone enhanced awareness and entelligence low level telepathy.

i would reset the eco system to where the planet would have more then sufficient food both in plants and animals that would keep ppl from suffering and starving at least for a few centuries allowing ppl to choose whether they harm the planet by depleting its food source and other materials or find alternate means.

i would answer prayers every decade or so, so long that they arent selfish in nature, maybe even answer one large scale prayer that would effect the world so long as the request was properly thought out taking all consequences into account.that would be my one miracle to the world and would be on behalf of all ppl and believes.

although i would not reveal my existence to the world by a physical body to tell them i am real, i would cause localize earthquakes to all parts of the world that would kill all extremist and their churches at once. allowing the world to decide the significance of that action.

other then that i would create a heaven like in the movie where dreams may come where each person is responsible for their own heaven or hell. and i would oversee it and randomly interact with ppl who would choose to speak to me, so as not to destroy their reality.
other ppl can enter one anothers reality and can leave it to join the central one where all soul share.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i would allow mankind a second chance to improve themselves giving everyone enhanced awareness and entelligence low level telepathy.

If you improve people for them they're not really changing on their own.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If you improve people for them they're not really changing on their own.

damn, you are right. but this way they have a better chance of understanding that their behavior and actions can have negative consequences. i would just give them a little push in the right direction, they can always turn and go the other way.

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If I were god, I would do it just as it is, but without the religion. Let people be who they are and NO condemnation.

But..........what ever you had done to others would be done to you.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
If I were god, I would do it just as it is, but without the religion. Let people be who they are and NO condemnation.

That's inherently contradictory.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That's inherently contradictory.

how so?

There are religious people in the world. Erasing religion would prevent them from "being who they are" by default.

If I was god I would stop the making of the Wolverine movie and make it Gambit 😄

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
There are religious people in the world. Erasing religion would prevent them from "being who they are" by default.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
How would this prevent them from being who they are? Did religion make them or did they make themselves into the religion?

Religion is part of who they are. If I was god and made everyone devoutly religious it would alter who you are just as much.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Religion is part of who they are. If I was god and made everyone devoutly religious it would alter who you are just as much.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
People switch religions all the time or loose their religion, do they loose who they are? I love to play 40K but if that was taken away from me I wouldn't stop being who I am.

But you would be different, also 40K is not likely to be as much a part of your life as religion is to many people. Again, if you were made into a devout Muslim without your permission you would be a different person not "who you are". Even if you were made into someone who doesn't play 40K you would still be different, you would be you but not playing 40K anymore which is a change just of a smaller level.

The question would be is it the religion that defines them or they define the religion? Change is a part of life as much as it is with religion, religion changes all the time just as life but the person is still the same. If your religion said gays were bad and you grew up thinking gays were bad then later in your life your religion says gays were good do you all of a sudden think that gays are good? This would be the case if religion defined who and what you are however most would still think that gays are bad but their religion now accepts them or they would change their religion.

You have a point but it's still a change. Anyway this got derailed from my original point, she's eliminating religion from the beginning so they never really get a chance to choose. They're automatically altered because they grew up without religion having ever existed and are thus going to be very different people (also this will apparently end all prejudice which would be yet another change in personality).